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Thought I'd make my own thread for this instead of posting my updates in the musician chat thread.

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So after making my wonky-sounding MIDI-demos for my solo project since 2008, I finally met up with some people who liked the same(ish) type music as I do and also played instruments. So in october 2014 we officially started the band Oktober. Since that time we have been writing music for our first album 'Virgo' and have recently started recording demos for that album and have so far put two of them on our SoundCloud page.

The demos are self produced and a bit rough around the edges since we are sort of learning as we go along. I think we're managing pretty good results though, certainly good enough for first time demos.

So please check it out. Comment about what you liked, didn't like, general observations, or anything. Peace!

https://soundcloud.com/oktoberofficial

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Daniel Larnhem (Me) - Bass
Marcus Svensson - Guitars, Artwork
Samuel Leckborn - Keyboard, Guitars, Saxophone
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Re: OKTOBER - Black Ink's Progressive Rock/Metal Band v. Demo Phase
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2017, 11:21:37 AM »
The band and I finished a new demo and it's up on soundcloud. This will be the 'lead single' of the first album.

https://soundcloud.com/oktoberband/planetarium

We're still in the demo phase, trying to zero in on a sound we'll use to properly record the first album one day, and while we're not quite there yet, we're getting close. This is the best we've sounded so far. So have a listen. It'd be fun if anyone has any comments or thoughts.

We've also recently replaced the old audio for the other two tracks with some newer remixes. So check those out too!

https://soundcloud.com/oktoberband/sets/virgo-demos

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Re: OKTOBER - Black Ink's Band v. Getting Closer
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2023, 11:40:14 AM »
Man this thread is old.

Over the past months I've built a home studio and am doing some tests to slowly learn how to record and mix stuff. I needed to try out some more all-out metal sounds if I'm to make the demos I'm planning, so I made this cover/remix of Halsey's song Bells in Santa Fe to try some stuff out and get a general sounscape (partly) dialed in. Don't expect the overlap betweeb DT-fans and Halsey fans to be all that significant, but I think it turned out pretty mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Sv6n4ZoVI

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Re: OKTOBER - BlackInk built a studio and is messing around
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2023, 02:01:17 PM »
Dude, I totally love the remix!

Sounds like you have a really good grasp on sonics and mixing in general.

If you ever need some session stuff (I'm primarily a guitarist, but if it has strings, I can probably have it and can record it), feel free to send me a PM.


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Re: OKTOBER - BlackInk built a studio and is messing around
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2023, 04:31:16 AM »
Experminetation continues. Done lots of stuff inbetween I might post at some point, but for now I thought I'd just share my latest thing I finished, which is a cover/remix of Coldplay's song 'Midnight' but--to the best of my abilities--in the style of the band TesseracT. It's not perfect, but it was a fun little project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qUo5SOTRxc

Dude, I totally love the remix!

Sounds like you have a really good grasp on sonics and mixing in general.

If you ever need some session stuff (I'm primarily a guitarist, but if it has strings, I can probably have it and can record it), feel free to send me a PM.

Thank you! I really appreciate it. May have slightly forgot this thread existed, otherwise I would have seen and replied to this sooner..

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Re: BLACKINK's Projects - Can 12-year-old BlackInk come out to play?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2023, 05:39:15 AM »
So in the interest of continuing to learn how to record, mix, and produce music, I went back and recorded the first six songs I ever wrote. This was way back in 2007, when I was just 12 years old, which is why the songs themselves aren't really good at all. I made very few alterations to my original demos, the biggest change being the new drums. But even there it follows the old crappier demos pretty closely. Since these are really old demos that even I don't like any more (other than for nostalgic reasons) I didn't make too much of an effort to play everything perfectly. I also didn't spend that much time mixing the songs, just enough so that I was marginally happy with the result. This was also a time when Dream Theater was basically my only musical influence, so the tracks may be a bit stale as I mostly tried to emulate them but without any of the song writing skills. This to the point of pretty much ripping them off (and a few things from other artists) straight up. I don't expect this to generate a whole lot of interest, I'm mainly doing this to document this for myself, and this place is pretty much the only place I can think of to post it. Also; ignore my very cool track names. I was apparently a lot more edgy when I was 12.

This was fun to make though, and I hope I can continue producing these proper demos of the other albums I wrote as a young kid, and hopefully eventually move on to stuff that I actually think deserve the full on production treatment.

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BLACK INK - SPOKEN (2007 Demos) (38:46)

01 - Never Look Back (5:22)
02 - Hands of Blood (4:27)
03 - Shadow of Sin (9:21)
04 - Don't End It (4:12)
05 - Black Sun (4:34)
06 - Speechless (10:48)
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Re: BLACKINK's Projects - Can 12-year-old BlackInk come out to play?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2024, 08:01:46 AM »
Continuing to experiment and slowly learning to make music. Most of the stuff I make so far I don't end up posting anywhere, but I am now finishing up three songs that I felt I wanted to post to document some sort of progress.

I took some time away from my old songs I wrote when I was a kid and made demos of a few newer songs that I actually like and am moderately proud of. They are all demos meant to be songs on my band's fourth album. I finished up the first one today, which is a song called 'Cruise Control', one of my long time favorites. With this one I really got deeper into my love for sound design and soundscaping to enhance the mood of the track. Trying to mix this track (as well as the other two I might post in the coming weeks) almost made me quit music, because I thought everything sounded like a big pile of steaming shit for so long. I finally made it out the other side of that, however. The result may not be perfect, and I know I still have a long way to go if I'm ever going make professional-sounding stuff. But for now, I feel like this is as good as I can currently make it, and to keep working on it would just be keeping me from working on other cool tracks.

This one is written to be the opening track of the album, and was an attempt to create a big-feeling strong opening statement.

OKTOBER | Cruise Control - Instrumental Demo (9:48)


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Re: BLACKINK's Projects - Can 12-year-old BlackInk come out to play?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2024, 05:54:19 PM »
Continuing to experiment and slowly learning to make music. Most of the stuff I make so far I don't end up posting anywhere, but I am now finishing up three songs that I felt I wanted to post to document some sort of progress.

I took some time away from my old songs I wrote when I was a kid and made demos of a few newer songs that I actually like and am moderately proud of. They are all demos meant to be songs on my band's fourth album. I finished up the first one today, which is a song called 'Cruise Control', one of my long time favorites. With this one I really got deeper into my love for sound design and soundscaping to enhance the mood of the track. Trying to mix this track (as well as the other two I might post in the coming weeks) almost made me quit music, because I thought everything sounded like a big pile of steaming shit for so long. I finally made it out the other side of that, however. The result may not be perfect, and I know I still have a long way to go if I'm ever going make professional-sounding stuff. But for now, I feel like this is as good as I can currently make it, and to keep working on it would just be keeping me from working on other cool tracks.

This one is written to be the opening track of the album, and was an attempt to create a big-feeling strong opening statement.

OKTOBER | Cruise Control - Instrumental Demo (9:48)



Everything in your post resonated with me on multiple levels...trust me when I say, I've been there.

That said, as someone who's 'been there,' I'd also like to say the following: if you'd started this last post with 'this is the best song I've ever recorded!!!' I wouldn't have thought twice about.

The mix for "Cruise Control" is sound/solid on all fronts. As someone who's been writing/mixing/recording since the Clinton administration, what you just shared is absolutely 'professional' sounding.

I know the last thing a musician wants to hear is 'music production is subjective,' but it's freaking true!

It's all about framing your expectations. If you were going for something in line with the last Five Finger Death Punch record, your mix might fall a bit short in the low end and drums, but it sounds like that wasn't what you were going for.

Liz Harris, aka 'Grouper' has put out some of the most devastatingly beautiful releases of the past decade. She is critically acclaimed and revered by those who are in the know. Her recordings are mostly self-produced and lo-fi as all hell. Are her records 'professional'??? I guess it depends on what your definition of 'professional' is. I'll tell you this much, people buy them and enjoy them.

It's late, and I feel like I've been circling a point without actually making it  :rollin

The bottom line: I dig the track, and to my ears, the mix sounds fan-freaking-tastic! Move on to the next track and consider this one 'done.'

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Re: BLACKINK's Projects - v. Mixing this song nearly made me quit music
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2024, 08:22:25 AM »
Thanks man! Really appreciate that you took the time to check out the track and comment!

Yeah I think it’s easy to get hyper focused on your own work and obsess over every little detail, and you forget that basically everyone who will end up hearing it will have a far more casual and less technically judgmental relationship to your work. That in combination with the fact that you always compare yourself to your idols, which leads to a sense of always falling short and failing. It’s pretty tough sometimes, but I don’t know, it’s also a really fun and engaging process.

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Re: BLACKINK's Projects - v. Mixing this song nearly made me quit music
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2024, 10:04:44 AM »
The next song in this latest trio of songs I finished. This one was much more well behaved and I didn't have to do 90 iterations to get it to finally work. Not perfect of course, but, as good as I could currently make it. More of a straight forward prog metal track this one, with some fun little polyrhythms thrown in for good measure(s).

OKTOBER | Winter's Teeth (Instrumental Demo) (9:48)