The Official Iced Earth Thread v. "Tastes Like Treason!"

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

lol

Anyone know anything about this Raphael guy?

Does it matter? He'll be gone in a few months.

[Mosh]

Now they just need to get rid of Troy

[wolfking]

Annnnnnnnnnnnd Brent Smedley is out. One of the ninja turtles is taking his place.

What happened this time?

Brent says there's some really big problems happening in his family right now and he felt he couldn't dedicate himself to the schedule Iced Earth was aiming for.

Fair enough.

Now they just need to get rid of Troy

Exactly, I didn't have a problem with Brent, Troy and Stu are the ones that need to go.

[Lowdz]

But if Stu goes Schaffer will only get another singer and make him sing like Matt. Stu isn't the problem; Schaffer's attitude is.

[MoraWintersoul]

But if Stu goes Schaffer will only get another singer and make him sing like Matt. Stu isn't the problem; Schaffer's attitude is.

^ that. And Stu deserves the extra exposure.

[Zook]

But if Stu goes Schaffer will only get another singer and make him sing like Matt. Stu isn't the problem; Schaffer's attitude is.

Unless he finds someone like Ripper. One can only hope.

[Mister Gold]

But if Stu goes Schaffer will only get another singer and make him sing like Matt. Stu isn't the problem; Schaffer's attitude is.

Unless he finds someone like Ripper. One can only hope.

If he were looking for a singer that he wanted to sing naturally, we wouldn't be in this problem to begin with. If Stu is fired or quits, Schaffer is just going to go look for another singer that either sounds like Matt or he can get to imitate him.

[obscure]

But if Stu goes Schaffer will only get another singer and make him sing like Matt. Stu isn't the problem; Schaffer's attitude is.

^ that. And Stu deserves the extra exposure.

this....


and just heard Brent's departure.... :/

[Jaq]

Brent hung on longer than I thought he would, actually.

And I agree; doesn't matter who the singer is, unless they have a spine and find a way to both stand up to Schaffer and stay in the band, they're going to sound like Barlow. What the band needs is Stu using all of his range, because he's easily the most gifted singer Iced Earth has ever had (yes, I think what he can REALLY do is better than Ripper) but he's being forced into this silly sound of his. People going on about how awful Stu is need to clarify that he's awful at being Matt Barlow, because having seen him with Into Eternity, I know he's an amazing singer.

[Zook]

Schaffer hates growls so Stu using all of his range with Iced Earth just isn't going to happen. Although it's weird, he was so impressed with Stu when Into Eternity opened for them, but Stu is barely doing anything in Iced Earth that orignaly impressed Jon. Anguish of Youth and End of Innocence are the closest to his natural range, and even there he's awkwardly deepening his voice a bit. Compare those to Surrounded by Night. Maybe Jon thinks Stu doesn't sound tough enough. But then why hire him at all? "Hmm, he has unbelievable range, but he sounds a little weak. The fans want Matt so I'll tell Stucifer to sound like him. Then we'll be the KILLERESTESTESTESTEST!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Lowdz]

Just listened to the Into Eternity track Surrounded By Night and loved it. Great vocals. Listened to the rest of the album and despite the growls enjoyed that too. Used sparingly as a contrast I can cope with it- I wouldn't want to hear much of it in Iced Earth though.

[MoraWintersoul]

Surrounded By Night, The Incurable Tragedy II, Pain Through Breathing, Out... sheesh his vocals are just insane.

[wolfking]

Yeah, I just listened to Ashes the other day, it's amazing how good he is here and how shit he is in IE.

[Jaq]

I listened to Scattering of Ashes and yeah, Stu's a completely different singer in Into Eternity. While admittedly most of his performance is on the higher end there, so we don't really know from that what the lower end of his range would be-I'm willing to bet it's not "sound like a forced Matt Barlow." Also forgot how fucking good that album was, too. 

[Zook]

Giving Dystopia another listen. Only on Anthem, but I think if Stu sang like he does on the title track all the time even on older songs, I wouldn't mind too much. Unfortunately he sings like he does on Anthem all the time, and that will not do for me.

Stu, please chew your food and swallow before singing. Thanks.

[Jaq]

Okay, we get it, you don't like Stu's Barlow voice. 

[Zook]

Okay, we get it, you don't like Stu's Barlow voice. 

Not true! I'd just rather listen to Gene Adam [insert something outrageous here].


Anyone want to buy this for me? Whoever does gets a signed KrotchRaut CD!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ICED-EARTH-Night-Of-The-Stormrider-RARE-91-PROG-THRASH-1st-Press-EXEX-/111075083391

[wolfking]

I'd rather listen to Gene Adam too in Iced Earth, and yes, I'm serious.

[Zook]

YEAHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Still better than Stu Barfaux.

[wolfking]

 

[adace]

clip from Ashes of Ares' first show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aepnGxf2vak&feature=player_embedded

[Zook]

Done been removed, son.

Was it that 19 second clip?

[adace]

Done been removed, son.

Was it that 19 second clip?

Nope, it was a 4 or 5 minute fan-shot video. Can't find any other links unfortunately.

[Zook]

That sucks. Matt was asking if there was any video, so it wasn't him who complained or did whatever to get the video taken down.

[Zook]

Anyone wanna break the tie?

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=37137.0

[Scorpion]

Sorry buddy. Didn't know what was tied, but... yeah.

[Zook]

God damnit!

You know what? Fine. Anthem is slightly better than Boiling Point, I suppose.

[adace]

Hopefully this won't taken down.
Ashes of Ares live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jru2UnEVYhw&feature=player_embedded

[Zook]

Yeah, I saw that last night. Not sure what to think yet.

[Mister Gold]

I'm digging it, and I also liked the other video when I heard it a few days ago before it was taken down. I'll be able to give a more solid opinion once the actual album is released.

I have to give the band credit for playing an entire setlist's worth of new material that hadn't been released yet, and not playing any songs from Nevermore or Iced Earth's catalogue. Pretty bold move on their part.

[Zook]

You know, I think I used the same vocal melody of that Ashs of Ares song for an unfinished KrotchRaut song...

[Zook]

DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

[wolfking]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190465

"There's a lot happening in ICED EARTH world at the moment. We are just a few short weeks away from getting together in Germany to rehearse the new songs for the upcoming album, 'Plagues Of Babylon'. We have a few weeks of rehearsal, then we start tracking the new album in between a string of festivals in Europe, and one in India, which we are all excited about, since it'll be our first time there.

"Tracking will be done at a studio in Germany to try to keep the jetlag at a minimum. The numerous trips across the Atlantic during the 'Dystopia' recording were a bit brutal, so we are doing it smarter this time. If we stay on target, you will have the new album in October! It's a tight schedule, but we are intent on making it happen. I am very happy with the work so far, and it's only going to get better when we are all together cranking it out."

[Zook]

No Morrisound this time around? I wonder if Jim/Tom is going with them to Germany. Or do they just mix at Morrisound. I can't remember.

[wolfking]

No idea.  Don't really care either at this point to be honest with you.