The Official Iced Earth Thread v. "Tastes Like Treason!"

[Zook]

I don't see that happening (letting Stu sing like Stu), and I think Stu actually likes singing that way.

[Adami]

R.I.P Iced Earth.

[Zook]

R.I.P Iced Earth.

Enter the brutal KrotchRaut

[Adami]

Not as good as the band I'm going to form in a few minutes.

Rotting Crotch.

[Zook]

Check out the name of Adami's new band... WOW, the words and idea looks awfully familiar!! Surely it must be an intentional 'nugget' for the fans… It couldn't possibly be blatant band name plagiarism, now could it…?? I just have to laugh…

[Adami]

Check out the name of Adami's new band... WOW, the words and idea looks awfully familiar!! Surely it must be an intentional 'nugget' for the fans… It couldn't possibly be blatant band name plagiarism, now could it…?? I just have to laugh…

Well when I quit KrotchRaut and then you fired me after I quit and made me say horrible things about you on Twitter, I obviously had to fo........wait, which one of us is Portnoy in this again?

[Zook]

Actually, I think you're supposed to be Geoff Tate.

[Adami]

Actually, I think you're supposed to be Geoff Tate.

Crap.


Yea, nothing else to say.

[MoraWintersoul]

Check out the name of Adami's new band... WOW, the words and idea looks awfully familiar!! Surely it must be an intentional 'nugget' for the fans… It couldn't possibly be blatant band name plagiarism, now could it…?? I just have to laugh…

Well when I quit KrotchRaut and then you fired me after I quit and made me say horrible things about you on Twitter, I obviously had to fo........wait, which one of us is Portnoy in this again?

[Zook]

I have absolutely no problems with Something Wicked This Way Comes. Every song is great, and the heavy, soft song arrangement doesn't bother me, but I've seen people say that it doesn't flow well for them. What if the track order looked like this?

1. Burning Times
2. Stand Alone
3. Disciples of the Lie
4. Melancholy
5. Consequences
6. My Own Savior
7. 1776
8. Blessed Are You
9. Prophecy
10. Birth of the Wicked
11. The Coming Curse

[Scorpion]

Fuck no. Reaping Stone is one of my favourites.

[Zook]

What about replacing Blessed Are You with Reaping Stone. Playing it in my head, it sounds good as a closer before the trilogy. I was also going to leaving off BAY and have 1776 close the album before the trilogy too.

I've done this before a couple years ago, and had 1776 open the album. Don't know why I'm doing this though. The album sounds fine to me The alto order I made does sound cool too though.

[Ultimetalhead]

Something Wicked is just fine the way it is. It's pretty much the only Iced Earth album I can stomach.

[Zook]

What's wrong with the greatest thrash album ever, Night of the Stormrider?

Speaking of...

[seasonsinthesky]

I have absolutely no problems with Something Wicked This Way Comes. Every song is great, and the heavy, soft song arrangement doesn't bother me, but I've seen people say that it doesn't flow well for them. What if the track order looked like this?

1. Burning Times
2. Stand Alone
3. Disciples of the Lie
4. Melancholy
5. Consequences
6. My Own Savior
7. 1776
8. Blessed Are You
9. Prophecy
10. Birth of the Wicked
11. The Coming Curse

i am one of those people except i'd rather 'stack' the beginning a bit more:
Burning Times
Stand Alone
My Own Savior
Disciples of the Lie
Melancholy
Consequences
Watching Over Me (you left this off?!)
Reaping Stone (though i dislike it too, just don't see a reason to drop it)
1776
Blessed Are You
Prophecy
Birth of the Wicked
The Coming Curse

dunno why you'd drop Blessed Are You, either. i think it's one of the best songs on the record.

[Zook]

I have absolutely no problems with Something Wicked This Way Comes. Every song is great, and the heavy, soft song arrangement doesn't bother me, but I've seen people say that it doesn't flow well for them. What if the track order looked like this?

1. Burning Times
2. Stand Alone
3. Disciples of the Lie
4. Melancholy
5. Consequences
6. My Own Savior
7. 1776
8. Blessed Are You
9. Prophecy
10. Birth of the Wicked
11. The Coming Curse

i am one of those people except i'd rather 'stack' the beginning a bit more:
Burning Times
Stand Alone
My Own Savior
Disciples of the Lie
Melancholy
Consequences
Watching Over Me (you left this off?!)
Reaping Stone (though i dislike it too, just don't see a reason to drop it)
1776
Blessed Are You
Prophecy
Birth of the Wicked
The Coming Curse

dunno why you'd drop Blessed Are You, either. i think it's one of the best songs on the record.

Watching Over Me is great, but not essential to an album edit. I did put BAY back in my edit. As for Reaping Stone, I like the song, but it's a little too Black Sabbathy. I guess if I were to put it back in, it would go after MOS. As for your list, you have a big chunk of heavy and then a big chunk of soft, and that's a little more wonky than the original track order EDIT: Taking WOM off would actually make your order pretty damn good. Again, I like WOM, but leaving it off would suit the album better for the alto track order.

MOS could work near the top though.

[wolfking]

I always found the flow and the song order really interesting.  I've always liked it how it is to be honest.

[Zook]

Yeah there's nothing wrong with it. It was just a fun bordom activity.

So it's been two years. Is anyone interested in me continuing my IE survivor? I stopped at Burnt Offerings when my internet was shut off, so should I continue where I left off or should I start over? There wasn't a lot of participation last time though.

[Scorpion]

I'd be onboard until Horror Show. Don't really know the albums following that enough to vote and no reviews I have ever read or heard have ever given me a reason to change that, I'm afraid.

[Zook]

I'd be onboard until Horror Show. Don't really know the albums following that enough to vote and no reviews I have ever read or heard have ever given me a reason to change that, I'm afraid.

The Glorious Burden - Replacing Matt Barlow is certainly a difficult task, but Ripper handled what he was given like he'd been singing for IE for years. Sure the lyrics sound like he's reading a history book set to music, but the songs are mostly solid. Hollow Man and the Ripper penned Red Barron/Blue Max are the duds of the album. Especially Hollow Man. The Gettysburg Trilogy is a masterpiece *waits for Adami to say it's mediocre* and Schaffer still sounds inspired. Stand out tracks include Declaration Day, The Reckoning, Greenface, Attila, Waterloo (UK version of the album) and Gettysburg

Framing Armageddon - Ripper is amazing on this album. Brent Smedley sounds a bit robotic unlike Richard Christy, and overall this album is pretty good. I was really excited for Ripper being in the band once I heard this album. He delivers an epic performance and most of the songs are awesome with no duds, but some uninteresting tunes. By duds, I mean shit like Hollow Man. Stand out tracks are Something Wicked Part 1, Setian Massacre, Ten Thousand Strong, The Clouding, The Domino Decree, Framing Arageddon, When Stars Collide

The Crucible Of Man - This album can be summed up in one quote: "The destruction of mankind shouldn't be in mid-tempo". The album isn't bad, but there is so much missed potential, that it's just disappointing. It sounds rushed, and some songs just end with repetitive rhythm parts instead of expanding the song to make it even more awesome like The Revealing. That song is all kinds of bad ass, but it's not complete. Jon didn't know what to do with it I guess. Throughout the whole album, Set Abominae says how much he's going to destroy mankind, but when we get to the epic closer, Come What May, which is an amazing song by the way, it appears Set has changed his mind or something, and he's just going to let man destroy themselves. Also, although Matt sounds great, I really wish Ripper could have sang on this one, just for continuity's sake. Stand out tracks: In Sacred Flames/Behold The Wicked Child, A Gift Or A Curse, I Walk Alone, Sacrificial Kingdoms, Come What May

Dystopia - LOL
Ok, so this album isn't entirely bad, but Jon definitely phoned it in, and Stu's Barlow impression is cringeworthy at times, although not as bad as what he's doing live. The songs are just so uninspired, and everyone sounds asleep at the wheel. The title track is decent, Dark City as well. The two bonus tracks Soylent Green and Iron Will are better that the actually album songs, and Tragedy and Triumph is decent too. Days or Rage is a bad Disciples of the Lie knock off, and the lyrics are just bad. Same with Boiling Point.

I'd say at least check out the good songs I listed. There's definitely some great post-Barlow Iced Earth songs to be heard.

[Scorpion]

Alright, thanks for the overview. I just found The Glorious Burden on Spotify, so I'll give it a listen, I guess.

[Lowdz]

Like Scorp I've neglected IE after Horrow Show. I've never been a Ripper fan- it may just be he's sung on albums I didn't rate (JP & Yngwie I'm looking at you). I heard each of the post HS albums but never really persevered with the. I'll go back and have a listen.

And I really like Dystopia. Oh well.

[wolfking]

I'd be up for the survivor, every fucking album.

Damn Zook, I loved both Red Barron and Hollow Man.

[Zook]

Red Baron isn't awful, it's just kinda stupid.

[wolfking]

Red Baron isn't awful, it's just kinda stupid.

It proves Ripper isn't the best lyric writer around.  But that middle section is incredible.  I like what Ralph Santolla did on that album too, some really cool little solos that worked well with IE's sound.

[Zook]

Ripper should never, ever write lyrics. Beyond Fear was horrible for the same reason. Ralph wasn't bad, but Randy and Larry were the best lead players IE had.

[Zook]

Ok so would the 5 Iced Earth fans want me to start over with the survivor or start where I left off at Burnt Offerings?

[Adami]

Ok so would the 5 Iced Earth fans want me to start over with the survivor or start where I left off at Burnt Offerings?

I wouldn't know enough about the first two albums to participate.

But from Burnt Offerings onward I'm in!

[Zook]

Ok so would the 5 Iced Earth fans want me to start over with the survivor or start where I left off at Burnt Offerings?

I wouldn't know enough about the first two albums to participate.

But from Burnt Offerings onward I'm in!

Go listen to 'em fool! Night Of The Stormrider is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

And Iced Earth is great for the music. Gene Adam is hilarious, but doesn't detract.

[Adami]

I've heard most of the good songs from Stormrider when Barlow performed them. Either live or on the re-recordings.

However I just really don't have a strong desire to listen to the original of either album enough times to know the songs that well.

[Zook]

Deadpool would.

[Adami]

Deadpool would.

Dirty pool old man. Dirty pool.


.....also, Deadpool wouldn't unless you paid him. 

Or unless he thought it was get him a huge amount of attention.

[Zook]

He could review the album relating it somehow to politics which would get Schaffer's attention and they could argue about bullshit government conspiracy theories on like Bill O' Reilly or something.

[Adami]

He could review the album relating it somehow to politics which would get Schaffer's attention and they could argue about bullshit government conspiracy theories on like Bill O' Reilly or something.

Clearly you don't know Deadpool.

He wouldn't argue about politics, he'd stick a sword into Schaffers throat for not loving Bea Arthur enough.

[Zook]

Clearly YOU don't know Jon Schaffer enough. He would block the sword with his guitar and play triplets until Deadpool ran away from boredom.