Author Topic: The Official Iced Earth Thread v. "Tastes Like Treason!" (Read 314483 times)

Adami · « **Reply #1225 on:** August 19, 2012, 12:40:09 PM »

Quote from: Zook on August 19, 2012, 12:38:30 PM

Nope. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=88317&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blabbermouth+(Blabbermouth.net's+Daily+Headlines)

Well I'm re-writing history. Now he was dumped by text.

Zook · « **Reply #1226 on:** August 19, 2012, 12:48:02 PM »

I don't think Jon knows how to text.

Adami · « **Reply #1227 on:** August 19, 2012, 12:55:38 PM »

Quote from: Zook on August 19, 2012, 12:48:02 PM

I don't think Jon knows how to text.

That's because texting cost his people the civil war.

Zook · « **Reply #1228 on:** August 19, 2012, 12:58:24 PM »

adace · « **Reply #1229 on:** August 20, 2012, 03:47:29 AM »

Setlist from the DVD shoot in Cyprus:

Dystopia
Burning Times
Angels Holocaust
Slave to the Dark
V
When the Night Falls
I Died for You
Motivation of Man
Setian Massacre
Stormrider
Pure Evil
Wolf
Dark City
End of Innocence
Dracula
Ten Thousand Strong
End of Innocence
Anthem
Declaration Day
Days of Rage
Melancholy (Holy Martyr)

Encore:
Invasion
Boiling Point
Damien
Watching Over Me
Dante's Inferno
Iced Earth

Encore 2:
The Hunter

source: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/iced-earth/2012/kourion-ancient-theatre-limassol-cyprus-3dc0d47.html

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #1230 on:** August 20, 2012, 09:17:08 AM »

Longest encore ever

Jaq · « **Reply #1231 on:** August 20, 2012, 09:55:11 AM »

Quote from: MykeHavoc on August 20, 2012, 09:17:08 AM

Longest encore ever

Nah, when I saw Metallica their encores were almost as long as the main set, with Kirk's solo spot coming in one of them. This is a close second though

wolfking · « **Reply #1232 on:** August 20, 2012, 05:28:31 PM »

They played End of Innocence twice??

Adami · « **Reply #1233 on:** August 20, 2012, 05:34:23 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2012, 05:28:31 PM

They played End of Innocence twice??

Maybe they didn't want it to end?

Gadough · « **Reply #1234 on:** August 20, 2012, 05:39:35 PM »

Encores are silly. I've never understood the point.

Adami · « **Reply #1235 on:** August 20, 2012, 05:48:05 PM »

Quote from: Gadough on August 20, 2012, 05:39:35 PM

Encores are silly. I've never understood the point.

I remember the first time I saw Trans-Siberian Orchestra. They left the stage for the encore as per usual, and the audience didn't realize they were coming back so they all got up to leave. One of the guitarists had to run back on to stage and tell them not to leave.

Jaq · « **Reply #1236 on:** August 20, 2012, 06:04:54 PM »

Quote from: Gadough on August 20, 2012, 05:39:35 PM

Encores are silly. I've never understood the point.

Because, originally, an encore only happened because the crowd response was so overwhelming, the band would continue past the normal end of the show. At some point in time, though, the encore stopped being a result of a special performance and became mandatory.

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #1237 on:** August 21, 2012, 10:06:09 AM »

Quote from: Adami on August 20, 2012, 05:34:23 PM

Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2012, 05:28:31 PM
They played End of Innocence twice??

Maybe they didn't want it to end?

if it was a DVD filming, they probably thought they could do a better performance than the first. happens often (see the Devin Townsend - By a Thread set!).

Jaq · « **Reply #1238 on:** August 21, 2012, 10:51:37 AM »

Quote from: seasonsinthesky on August 21, 2012, 10:06:09 AM

Quote from: Adami on August 20, 2012, 05:34:23 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2012, 05:28:31 PM
They played End of Innocence twice??

Maybe they didn't want it to end?

if it was a DVD filming, they probably thought they could do a better performance than the first. happens often (see the Devin Townsend - By a Thread set!).

That or some sort of technical screw up happened that wrecked the performance.

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #1239 on:** August 21, 2012, 04:20:20 PM »

Must've been a bad blunder, like the filming fucked up, because any sound issue would just be fixed with over-dubs.

Zook · « **Reply #1240 on:** August 21, 2012, 07:17:49 PM »

I'm glad there are bootlegs from the show this time around. Now we'll know how much post production madness really goes on.

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1241 on:** August 22, 2012, 03:39:33 PM »

There was a technical fuck-up during the first End Of Innocence if my sources are correct. Also, judging from what I've seen of the vids, the singing won't require post-production madness, although Stu is still doing too much of Barlow for my liking. And no, not a hardcore disappointed Barlow fan, I just really dig Stu and would like to hear more of his own mid-range

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #1242 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:11:52 PM »

Yeah, putting out a new live disc this early into the new singers tenure before he has had adequate time to be broken in and get comfortable with finding his own unique interpretations of material seems like a poor idea. But then again, who knows how long Stu will last in the band. And Jon doesn't always seem like the type to think business decisions through thoroughly.

countoftuscany42 · « **Reply #1243 on:** August 22, 2012, 06:50:35 PM »

i thought stu was great live, whereas i dont like his vocals on dystopia as much. this was a great setlist, at least the songs i know from the show i saw anyway, so ill totally get this. As far as the barlow-esqe vocal debate, i dont really mind, but if he were able to d a unique high range more so than his mid range, id be ok if he stopped imitating barlow. otherwise it works for me.

Zook · « **Reply #1244 on:** August 22, 2012, 06:55:12 PM »

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on August 22, 2012, 03:39:33 PM

There was a technical fuck-up during the first End Of Innocence if my sources are correct. Also, judging from what I've seen of the vids, the singing won't require post-production madness, although Stu is still doing too much of Barlow for my liking. And no, not a hardcore disappointed Barlow fan, I just really dig Stu and would like to hear more of his own mid-range

What about Troy? I guarantee there will be touch ups from him. He's been doing pretty good from the other recent bootlegs I've seen, but he fucked up a few times for the DVD shoot.

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #1245 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:01:43 PM »

Quote from: countoftuscany42 on August 22, 2012, 06:50:35 PM

i thought stu was great live, whereas i dont like his vocals on dystopia as much. this was a great setlist, at least the songs i know from the show i saw anyway, so ill totally get this. As far as the barlow-esqe vocal debate, i dont really mind, but if he were able to d a unique high range more so than his mid range, id be ok if he stopped imitating barlow. otherwise it works for me.

i understand the "why are you getting Stu to do his best Barlow ripoff?" concerns, but i honestly prefer the way he can be so extremely faithful to the old material, yet clearly displays a few of his own sensibilities (and probably will continue to — the new "Dante's Inferno" already has some cool additions). he's a much, much, much better fit to the sound of IE than Ripper was, despite his obvious talent... and he can sing the Ripper material well too!

Zook · « **Reply #1246 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:06:27 PM »

When I sing along to Iced Earth, I match my voice to Barlow's, but Stu seems to over do it, especially on the ballads.

Zook · « **Reply #1247 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:37:47 PM »

This is the best version of Dracula, from Graspop:

https://youtu.be/O4UOrMBT46k?t=27m50s

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #1248 on:** August 22, 2012, 10:33:42 PM »

If you make a "Face" while singing, then you're doing a put-on. Barlow doesn't sound awkward when doing his thing because that is simply how he sounds. Same with Ripper. And I for one far prefer Ripper, since he sang all the songs HIS way. Brian Johnson doesn't try to sound like Bon Scott. Dio didn't try to sound like Ozzy. John Bush didn't try to sound like Joey Belladonna. Bruce Dickinson didn't try to sound like Paul Di'Anno. And to reference Ripper again, contrary to popular belief, he was hardly a "Halford-clone". The list goes on and on. Forcing yourself to sound like someone sounds fake and lame. Just sing the proper notes in your own style.

Zook · « **Reply #1249 on:** August 22, 2012, 11:14:14 PM »

It's hard not to sing in the same style. I love singing along to Into The Storm, and I emulate Hansi.

I don't think I make any faces...

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #1250 on:** August 23, 2012, 12:08:06 AM »

I was referring to Stu. I couldn't care less about what you do in the privacy of your home or car

Zook · « **Reply #1251 on:** August 23, 2012, 12:22:23 AM »

Well screw you, buddy!

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #1252 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:28:36 AM »

I don't like fighting Zook. Lets make up

Zook · « **Reply #1253 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:41:14 AM »

Your place or mine?

Zook · « **Reply #1254 on:** September 14, 2012, 05:41:38 PM »

Oh Jon, you so silly:

Quote

Listening to the new album I get a feeling that Stu tries to sing like Matt sometimes, going for the same kind of sound and vibe. Did you guys just decide he should do that or is his middle range just naturally similar to Matt's?

It's actually the song writing. I wrote when Matt was in the band too. The song writing dictates what the voice is gonna do, you know? It's not the other way around, which is what a lot of people that obviously don't write songs don't understand that. I hear that a lot, "Did you write that song for this guy's voice?" No, that's not how it works. You write the songs and then you have the singer that can do what the song requires. That's it. So no, I mean his middle range voice is just like that and it's also something that I think is gonna expand, you know? But he's got so many different tones to his voice that I think we're just sort of scratching the surface 'cause he's really starting to get into it and think about it. I mean I produced Matt, me and Jim Morris, but I spent all the demo time which is what we do early on in the process, it's me working with the singer. So I have the same influence on all the guys that I had with the exception of Tim on "Glorious Burden" because he came in after that album was already recorded, so that's a completely different scenario. But yeah it's the writing and the production man. That's where the sound comes from. And you have the musicians that can deliver the sound.

wolfking · « **Reply #1255 on:** September 14, 2012, 06:10:06 PM »

I'm pretty certain Jon has never heard a single Into Eternity song in his life. He talks like he is developing Stu and grooming him from a novice singer. No Jon, his middle range isn't like that, you told him to sound like Matt, don't you fucking lie.

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1256 on:** September 14, 2012, 06:12:03 PM »

I wish they'd scratch the surface a little more. Stu's got a lot more in him than Dystopia shows, and this comes from a person who likes Dystopia.

He's a darling as well:

Zook · « **Reply #1257 on:** September 14, 2012, 06:13:16 PM »

LOL, I was embarrassed for him when I first saw that.

wolfking · « **Reply #1258 on:** September 14, 2012, 06:13:54 PM »

Never seen that, anyone know a youtube link for that?

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1259 on:** September 14, 2012, 06:14:57 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on September 14, 2012, 06:13:54 PM

Never seen that, anyone know a youtube link for that?

I actually made it but now when I think of it I can't remember the video.

News: Track-by-track video for Paralyzed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5TbGbalPs&feature=youtu.be

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