Author Topic: Outcry Appeciation Thread (Read 24408 times)

BlackInk · « **Reply #105 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:36:49 PM »

Quote from: faizoff on September 20, 2011, 12:20:49 PM

I think Breaking All Illusions is still my favorite track, but Outcry is a very very close second.

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Knguro · « **Reply #106 on:** September 20, 2011, 03:59:33 PM »

Question: what's the noise between 8:42 and 8:45. I think it a little mistake by JP while touching a string with his pick. Not sure though.

Still I love the instrumental section is just monumental, MM is a fucking beast!

jacksmash · « **Reply #107 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:10:02 PM »

Quote from: Knguro on September 20, 2011, 03:59:33 PM

Question: what's the noise between 8:42 and 8:45. I think it a little mistake by JP while touching a string with his pick. Not sure though.

It's not a mistake. JP is simply attacking that note again for effect.

Ħ · « **Reply #108 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:12:11 PM »

I'm beginning to think that Outcry is the best track on the album.

jacksmash · « **Reply #109 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:13:17 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on September 20, 2011, 04:12:11 PM

I'm beginning to think that Outcry is the best track on the album.

Agreed. It's just that it takes much longer to realize it than when listening to the other songs on the album.

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #110 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:40:40 PM »

I love this track. And I love this album. Best album in a decade. And I'm sorry, but clearly, the best thing that could have happened with Dream Theater is Portnoy's departure. No more awful backing vocals, a return to a more progressive and less metal sound, and I don't have to have the drums pounding me in the face in the mix.

KevShmev · « **Reply #111 on:** September 20, 2011, 05:15:52 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on September 20, 2011, 04:12:11 PM

I'm beginning to think that Outcry is the best track on the album.

I can't go that far. I love it a lot, but it just can't crack the top 3 for me from this album. Breaking All Illusions, This is the Life and, of course, Bridges in the Sky (the best of them all) are pretty solidified right now as the top 3. But Outcry is most definitely awesome.

TheLordOfTheStrings · « **Reply #112 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:48:58 AM »

I'm definitely starting to agree with JP's quote about it being the anthem of the album.

lanemeyer · « **Reply #113 on:** September 22, 2011, 01:44:59 PM »

Quote from: kirksnosehair on September 20, 2011, 04:40:40 PM

I love this track. And I love this album. Best album in a decade. And I'm sorry, but clearly, the best thing that could have happened with Dream Theater is Portnoy's departure. No more awful backing vocals, a return to a more progressive and less metal sound, and I don't have to have the drums pounding me in the face in the mix.

I agree with this completely. Don't want to change the subject, but so many of the things I was disliking about DT went away with MP. It's like balance was restored to the force and I'm SUPER excited to see what this band does in the future now. I already can't wait for the next album, and that enthusiasm for this band hasn't been there for me, for a while.

Anywaaaay... about Outcry. This was the biggest "grower" on the album for me. Some parts I really like about it:

- The tone on JP's rhythm guitar is so thick and heavy... love it! I just wanna crank it when it first
comes into the song at 0:45.
- They did a great job of using electronic drums where appropriate.
- Labrie sounds awesome throughout, but I think he really sounds great in the 1st verse
- The bridge was a hot mess when I first heard it.. now that I'm familiar with it, I really love it...
I think it flows quite smoothly.
- Love JR's piano work at 6:30.
- MM drum fille at 8:28

Most insane drum fill of the album.. it's HUGE!
- The mellow section after the bridge is a nice contrast to the insanity that preceded.

Outcry is, IMO, is the song with the most number of layers and new elements to discover through repeated listens... it's VERY thick!

jcmistat · « **Reply #114 on:** September 22, 2011, 03:55:08 PM »

Still hasn't clicked yet. I can safely say I haven't listened to it enough yet. Also it comes right after BITS which is my favorite song on the album. I'll listen to it solo, I really want to like to this song. I wonder if they they'll play it live in 2 days.

obscure · « **Reply #115 on:** September 22, 2011, 03:58:30 PM »

that song!

jag66 · « **Reply #116 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:00:35 PM »

Probably top 3. Nothing can touch Breaking All Illusions, tyuuuuuuuune

bosk1 · « **Reply #117 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:08:01 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on September 20, 2011, 04:12:11 PM

I'm beginning to think that Outcry is the best track on the album.

I'm beginning to think you are smart.

RazielSR · « **Reply #118 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:15:22 PM »

Outcry clicked for me since the beginning. It was my fav song after This is the life and Beneath the surface. Now stills more or less the same, maybe now I prefer a little bit BITS, but stills being one of my favourites of the album. AMAZING SONG!!!

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #119 on:** September 22, 2011, 07:48:00 PM »

I can't quite rank it yet, it moves between the 1-3 spots. Right now the Chorus is barely beating BITS.... It's an awesome song, as are BITS and BAI

energythief · « **Reply #120 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:08:10 PM »

This song is so... dense. I love it, but I still can barely recall parts of it without the album playing. That's typically a very good sign in my past experience. "Grower" isn't even the word for it.

Kornflake · « **Reply #121 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:14:16 PM »

i LOVE the opening riff to this song. It's one of my favorite DT riffs on any album. It t doesn't seem rediculously technical but it just sounds cool. I love in the choruses too when the riff repeats but is a little different than the opener.
I've probably only had time to listen to the record about 5-10 times so far, but I've listened to Outcry probably 15-20. It's been my favorite song on that album since the first listen.

smegolas · « **Reply #122 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:53:47 PM »

Quote from: kirksnosehair on September 20, 2011, 04:40:40 PM

I love this track. And I love this album. Best album in a decade. And I'm sorry, but clearly, the best thing that could have happened with Dream Theater is Portnoy's departure. No more awful backing vocals, a return to a more progressive and less metal sound, and I don't have to have the drums pounding me in the face in the mix.

Agreed. But certainly not what I was thinking when I first heard of his departure. Life is funny that way - bad news sometimes ends up having a silver lining that isn't apparent until much later.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #123 on:** September 23, 2011, 12:29:27 AM »

Quote from: faizoff on September 16, 2011, 05:48:53 AM

Tied at favorite from the album along with Breaking All Illusions

This.

JoeH · « **Reply #124 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:15:41 AM »

Yep, this has been the one song that took a lot of listening to really unravel its beauty for me. It's now one of my top favorites on the album. The entire instrumentation job by the boys and the conception of chaos in society paints very well throughout the song. It certainly "clicked" for me.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #125 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:28:05 AM »

The only thing I'm not crazy about is that the final chorus is sung in a lower key than the first chorus. It makes it somehow less triumphant that it was originally. Of course, that might be a comment on the hardship of revolution in the first place, and how hard it is to maintain that revolutionary spirit long enough to finish the task.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #126 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:34:59 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2011, 07:28:05 AM

The only thing I'm not crazy about is that the final chorus is sung in a lower key than the first chorus. It makes it somehow less triumphant that it was originally. Of course, that might be a comment on the hardship of revolution in the first place, and how hard it is to maintain that revolutionary spirit long enough to finish the task.

I love how they did that. Most bands will raise the chorus up a whole step for the final repetition. I also like the idea of switching keys for choruses because it keeps them interesting.

Bertielee · « **Reply #127 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:37:28 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2011, 07:28:05 AM

The only thing I'm not crazy about is that the final chorus is sung in a lower key than the first chorus. It makes it somehow less triumphant that it was originally. Of course, that might be a comment on the hardship of revolution in the first place, and how hard it is to maintain that revolutionary spirit long enough to finish the task.

Good take on this one, Hef. Yeah, it might be the exhaustion that comes after a raging battle. Love your interpretation.

B.Lee

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #128 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:54:33 AM »

The song is still awesome. That instrumental section is just jaw-droppingly good.

BlackInk · « **Reply #129 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:25:01 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2011, 07:28:05 AM

The only thing I'm not crazy about is that the final chorus is sung in a lower key than the first chorus. It makes it somehow less triumphant that it was originally. Of course, that might be a comment on the hardship of revolution in the first place, and how hard it is to maintain that revolutionary spirit long enough to finish the task.

That bothered me not for the first maybe 3 times, then it started to sound slightly disappointing through listens 4-6, now I love it again.

Progmetty · « **Reply #130 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:54:50 AM »

It gives that last chorus a winding down instead of a climax. I didn't like it at first either but I love it now.
A similar problem I have but with BITS. "Shaman take my hand" @ 7:14 sounds more powerful than the same one at the end of the song. Specifically how he says "Hand", I dunno the name of the notes. The one @ 7:14 is such an amazing climax and is definitely the centerpiece of the album for me as it leads to the instrumental section.

lanemeyer · « **Reply #131 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:05:31 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2011, 07:28:05 AM

The only thing I'm not crazy about is that the final chorus is sung in a lower key than the first chorus. It makes it somehow less triumphant that it was originally. Of course, that might be a comment on the hardship of revolution in the first place, and how hard it is to maintain that revolutionary spirit long enough to finish the task.

I think that's part of it... also the lyrics support the more negative undertone of the ending... "Locked in a kingdom of fear... As our children die." I think that's a pretty strong comment to be place right at the end of the piece.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #132 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:10:41 AM »

Quote from: lanemeyer on September 23, 2011, 09:05:31 AM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2011, 07:28:05 AM
The only thing I'm not crazy about is that the final chorus is sung in a lower key than the first chorus. It makes it somehow less triumphant that it was originally. Of course, that might be a comment on the hardship of revolution in the first place, and how hard it is to maintain that revolutionary spirit long enough to finish the task.

I think that's part of it... also the lyrics support the more negative undertone of the ending... "Locked in a kingdom of fear... As our children die." I think that's a pretty strong comment to be place right at the end of the piece.

Yeah, I think so.

But I still prefer the earlier chorus.

coffees for closers · « **Reply #133 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:09:12 AM »

Just had my first listen to this song thanks to the ordering from Road Running debacle, and on my first run through the album I liked it the best. I hope they can and will play it live.
As others have mentioned i wish the drum mix was a touch louder and they let Mike M go off a little more.

Metropolis Pt. II · « **Reply #134 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:37:24 AM »

Definitely one of the top 3 songs from ADTOE IMO.

It took a few listens for me to follow what was going on, but I absolutely love it! I'd surely count it as the anthem of ADTOE, as I believe JP called it that.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #135 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:41:35 AM »

At the beginning, I loved the instrumental section but thought it was a bit dettached from the song. Now, I feel forced to listen to the whole thing because it's to freaking awesome.

Jaffa · « **Reply #136 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:43:14 AM »

I'm still not completely in love with it, but I've ocme to the conclusion that Outcry would make for an extremely kickass live song.

vulcandj · « **Reply #137 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:33:19 PM »

I haven't read all of the replies about, so I'll apologize if I repeat something that has already been stated; the beginning sounds like something that Evanescence would do (I don't mean this as an insult to either band) but changes DRASTICALLY when the full band kicks in. Just one of the many things that I love about DT; the ability to take something and go somewhere totally different than you thought it would go.

As for it being my favorite song on the CD, it hasn't beaten out BITS yet. I find that song to be rather epic

2Timer · « **Reply #138 on:** October 15, 2011, 07:29:25 PM »

Since I'm working so much right now, I haven't gotten to listen to the album as much as I like, so I feel stupid discussing the songs so late like this.
I liked the song at first, but now I love it. Great melodies, very cool guitar riff. Really hoping to get it live tomorrow night.
Best misheard lyric...'Fart in many ears'...

TheGreatPretender · « **Reply #139 on:** October 15, 2011, 07:32:33 PM »

Best song on the album. It shouldn't need an appreciation thread. People should automatically appreciate it. It's the reason why I love Dream Theater, the "Metropolis" or "Dance of Eternity" of this album.
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Author Topic: Outcry Appeciation Thread (Read 24408 times)