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Opeth: Non-Heritage discussion thread ***NO SPOILERS PLEASE***
« on: September 04, 2011, 11:42:01 AM »
Mods, feel free to lock this if you wish if it seems unnecessary. I just wanted a place to actually discuss Opeth without having an overwhelming majority of the posts centering around an album I'm trying very hard to leave as an all-new experience when I buy it. Someone had suggested in the other thread that anything about the new album be posted in small font but it just isn't realistic to think people will all know to do that since you can't really fit a disclaimer like that in the thread title and also expect folks to remember to do it each time they make a post of that nature.

I just want this to be a safe haven for Opeth discussion about the other 90% of their discography.
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2011, 11:42:29 AM »
So yeah, that Blackwater Park is a nifty album.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2011, 11:47:05 AM »
I've come to the conclusion that Ghost Reveries is their best one IMHO.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2011, 11:47:49 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2011, 11:49:52 AM »
Blackwater Park and Ghost Reveries both fucking rule.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 11:50:48 AM »
I've been through several different phases - at first I thought Watershed was the best one, then Ghost Reveries and for the last months it's been Blackwater Park. I don't really see that changing since I love every single song in BWP while I think the other albums have a couple weaker moments. For me, BWP > Watershed > GR.

I'm still trying to get Still Life to click, I enjoy some songs but the album as a whole sounds somewhat "samey" to me, as soon as I finish listening to it I can't differentiate riffs or songs by memory.

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2011, 11:52:58 AM »
New thread means new album ranking

Blackwater Park
Still Life
Ghost Reveries
Deliverance
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Damnation
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Morningrise
Orchid
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2011, 11:54:41 AM »
Ghost Reveries
Deliverance
Still Life
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Blackwater Park
Watershed
My Arms, Your Hearse
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Orchid
Damnation
Morningrise

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2011, 12:00:12 PM »
Still Life
Blackwater Park
My Arms, Your Hearse
Ghost Reveries
Morningrise
Watershed
Orchid
Damnation
Deliverance

MAYH has climbed my list. It's such a gorgeous album.

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2011, 12:01:13 PM »
MAYH has climbed my list. It's such a gorgeous album.

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2011, 12:03:32 PM »
ehh still not a big fan

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2011, 12:04:35 PM »
MAYH is fantastic, I simply can't put it higher because of the quality of the rest though. :/

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 12:06:12 PM »
I FIND THIS THREAD TO BE...

Satisfactory... carry on.
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 12:14:59 PM »
Still Life
Ghost Reveries
Watershed
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Blackwater Park
Damnation
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Deliverance
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Orchid

I haven't listened to Morningrise or MAYH yet. Just haven't been in much of an Opeth 'mood' lately.

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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2011, 12:34:44 PM »
Blackwater Park
My Arms, Your Hearse
Ghost Reveries
Watershed
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Still Life
Damnation
Deliverance
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Orchid
Morningrise
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2011, 12:35:44 PM »
Blackwater Park
Still Life
Deliverance
Damnation
Ghost Reveries
Watershed

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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2011, 12:41:51 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2011, 12:54:58 PM »
I FIND THIS THREAD TO BE...

Satisfactory... carry on.

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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2011, 04:57:34 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that Ghost Reveries is their best one IMHO.

Hell yea it is. That's been my opinion since the album came out. My opinion has not changed since.

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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2011, 05:08:47 PM »
1. Ghost Reveries
2. Deliverance
3. Blackwater Park
4. Still Life
5. Morningrise
6. Damnation
7. My Arms, Your Hearse
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I've come to the conclusion that Ghost Reveries is their best one IMHO.

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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2011, 05:19:50 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that Ghost Reveries is their best one IMHO.

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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2011, 05:30:20 PM »
Ghost Reveries
Damnation
Deliverance
Black Water Park
Still Life
My Arms Your Hearse
Watershed
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2011, 05:30:57 PM »
There's a little language doubt I've had for quite a while with the title The Drapery Falls.

In the past I used to understand it as drapery is a sort of an adjective describing the falls (you know, as in a waterfall), so it's more of a "picturesque" title. Seemed to make sense as Opeth has always had plenty of poetic titles and lyrics, and it's a kind of image that definitely fits with the song for me.

Some day I realised though a much simpler way to read it is just "the curtain falls". Adding to that is I started to have doubts that "drapery" in English could even be used to describe something (Wiktionary only has this word as a noun).

I'm kinda confused now. Which version is correct? Or both? Did I come up with something weird?

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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2011, 05:33:15 PM »
I have no idea bro. As much as I love that song, I've never given the lyrics or the title that much thought.
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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2011, 05:33:51 PM »
Drapery isn't an adjective.

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2011, 05:48:08 PM »
Wow Zander, your hair sure is drapery today.
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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2011, 05:52:54 PM »
Wow Zander, your hair sure is drapery today.
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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2011, 05:59:13 PM »
Drapery is the best song ever in the whole entire world

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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2011, 06:00:42 PM »
We should keep this thread open, seeing as Heritage isn't Opeth.  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2011, 06:03:48 PM »
Drapery is the best song ever in the whole entire world

It certainly is Opeth's best  ;D
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2011, 06:04:44 PM »
We should keep this thread open, seeing as Heritage isn't Opeth.  ;D

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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2011, 06:06:02 PM »
We should keep this thread open, seeing as Heritage isn't Opeth.  ;D

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Gadough isn't Hitler. He's much, much worse.