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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #805 on: January 13, 2012, 11:37:27 AM »
Oh, that could be. My bad.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #806 on: January 13, 2012, 11:41:21 AM »
I've noticed a lot of people have merged the end of Bush's economic policies with Obama's. Obama gets blamed by a lot of people for bailing out Wallstreet (LOL) and the auto-company (LOL), when both were provisions enacted Bush. Bush went to Congress and tried to get an official bail out of the auto-industry, got denied, so he used TARP funds to get his way.

But it's Obama's fault, cause he's a socialist ya know.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #807 on: January 13, 2012, 11:46:09 AM »
For the record, before I knew that I kinda liked that it was Obama who bailed out the auto industry. :p

Ya know, with me being into global warming and all that.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #808 on: January 13, 2012, 12:17:50 PM »
Eh, I think the money would have been better spent buying hybrid / electric vehicles for the government fleet. Go to Tesla, work out a contract with them for some cars. That'd provide jobs, and not just prop up a shitty industry.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #809 on: January 13, 2012, 12:40:44 PM »
I think we're doing that this year or next anyway, aren't we? I think Obama mentioned something along those lines when he went to Georgetown last year.

And the point of propping up that shitty industry (and indeed I agree with you there fully) is to get them on our side, so to speak. We bailed you out, now go make us some green cars.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #810 on: January 13, 2012, 03:05:30 PM »
lolamericanpolitics
I just came in here to post that article.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #811 on: January 13, 2012, 03:31:47 PM »
What kind of campaigns are those guys running?!

https://www.cnn.com/2012/01/13/politics/virginia-gop-primary-ballot/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Jon Huntsman and Newt Gingrich are not on the Virginia ballot.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #812 on: January 13, 2012, 05:26:42 PM »

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #813 on: January 14, 2012, 11:19:30 AM »
So Steven Colbert was getting more poll votes than John Huntsman early in the week... so he has now announced that he is running for President in South Carolina since people already seemed to be writing him in :rollin

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/01/13/stephen-colbert-announces-run-in-south-carolina-presidential-primary-hands-pac/?test=faces

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #814 on: January 14, 2012, 11:53:44 AM »
Oh man that Colbert crap is hilarious.

If liberals can just rally around him, he could potentially win South Carolina because it's an open primary.

That would be HILARIOUS.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #815 on: January 14, 2012, 06:05:45 PM »
Oh man that Colbert crap is hilarious.

If liberals can just rally around him, he could potentially win South Carolina because it's an open primary.

That would be HILARIOUS.

Except for the one fatal flaw: you can't write in candidates in South Carolina.


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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #816 on: January 15, 2012, 06:00:52 AM »
You mean he's not on the ballot?

It should be for more than just the show.. he should've been on the ballot.

Btw, the Colbert Super Pac just released an attack ad on Mitt Romney.
https://colbertsuperpac.com/

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #817 on: January 15, 2012, 09:39:21 AM »
 :rollin holy crap at that ad! and awesome John Lithgow!

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #818 on: January 15, 2012, 09:49:52 AM »
That was hilarious.  :lol

If nothing else, I hope the existence of the Definitely Not Coordinating With Stephen Colbert Super Pac brings to light the sheer idiocy of the Super Pac in general.

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« Reply #819 on: January 15, 2012, 01:35:55 PM »
You mean he's not on the ballot?

The ONLY people on the ballot in South Carolina are Romney and Paul. I mean, the amount of coverage this doesn't exist makes me think that this isn't the case in primaries, or there's some exception, or there's a loophole, or something. Probably though, people just assume you can write in a candidate, becuase why the fuck can't you write in a candidate in a democracy? Maybe if we voted for parties, but we don't.

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Oh, and so it's clear, I think it's great what Colbert and Stewart are doing.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #820 on: January 15, 2012, 02:11:05 PM »
Holy shit, Rick Perry! 

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Perry: Marines in video are 'kids,' not criminals

By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press – 56 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry on Sunday accused the Obama administration of "over-the-top rhetoric" and "disdain for the military" in its condemnation of a video that purportedly shows four Marines urinating on corpses in Afghanistan.

Perry's comments put him at odds with Sen. John McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, who said the images could damage the war effort.

"The Marine Corps prides itself that we don't lower ourselves to the level of the enemy," McCain said when asked about Perry's position. "So it makes me sad more than anything else, because ... I can't tell you how wonderful these people (Marines) are. And it hurts their reputation and their image."

No one has been charged in the case, but officials in the U.S. and abroad have called for swift punishment of the four Marines. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said last week that he worried the video could be used by the Taliban to undermine peace talks.

A military criminal investigation and an internal Marine Corps review are under way. The Geneva Conventions forbid the desecration of the dead.

Texas Gov. Perry said the Marines involved should be reprimanded but not prosecuted on criminal charges.

"Obviously, 18-, 19-year-old kids make stupid mistakes all too often. And that's what's occurred here," Perry told CNN's "State of the Union."

He later added: "What's really disturbing to me is the kind of over-the-top rhetoric from this administration and their disdain for the military."

Later appearing on the same show, McCain said he disagreed.

"We're trying to win the hearts and minds" of the Afghanistan population, he said. "And when something like that comes up, it obviously harms that ability."

This guy really is too stupid to live. 
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #821 on: January 15, 2012, 02:19:39 PM »
He's not going anywhere so this doesn't really matter all that much, but yeah he's a freaking idiot.  And that might be an insult to idiots.

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« Reply #822 on: January 15, 2012, 02:50:26 PM »
Pissing on their corpse is adding insult to injury. We don't have to condone it, but I think it would be way more unjust to seriously punish the soldiers for "war crimes," when the people who started and perpetuate this door are the one's prosecuting.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #823 on: January 15, 2012, 04:59:27 PM »
You mean he's not on the ballot?

The ONLY people on the ballot in South Carolina are Romney and Paul. I mean, the amount of coverage this doesn't exist makes me think that this isn't the case in primaries, or there's some exception, or there's a loophole, or something. Probably though, people just assume you can write in a candidate, becuase why the fuck can't you write in a candidate in a democracy? Maybe if we voted for parties, but we don't.

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Oh, and so it's clear, I think it's great what Colbert and Stewart are doing.
No, not only Romney and Paul. Where did you get that? Why would Santorum, Gingrich and Perry be holding events there then?

Colbert is obviously not on the ballot. It's just the current people in the field, as well as Cain, Bachmann and Johnson. I saw a pic of a ballot.

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« Reply #824 on: January 15, 2012, 05:42:24 PM »
You mean he's not on the ballot?

The ONLY people on the ballot in South Carolina are Romney and Paul. I mean, the amount of coverage this doesn't exist makes me think that this isn't the case in primaries, or there's some exception, or there's a loophole, or something. Probably though, people just assume you can write in a candidate, becuase why the fuck can't you write in a candidate in a democracy? Maybe if we voted for parties, but we don't.

*edit*

Oh, and so it's clear, I think it's great what Colbert and Stewart are doing.
No, not only Romney and Paul. Where did you get that? Why would Santorum, Gingrich and Perry be holding events there then?

So apparently I'm an idiot and confused South Carolina with Virginia in the news reports.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #825 on: January 15, 2012, 08:16:16 PM »

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #826 on: January 15, 2012, 08:17:38 PM »
I'm just surprised he hung on as long as he did.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #827 on: January 15, 2012, 08:19:42 PM »
Whatever.

I can't wait til November, man. This shit is so drawn out it's painful.

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« Reply #828 on: January 15, 2012, 08:27:01 PM »
I can't wait til November, man. This shit is so drawn out it's painful.

Not sure if it ever really stopped.

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« Reply #829 on: January 15, 2012, 08:37:51 PM »
Whatever.

I can't wait til November, man. This shit is so drawn out it's painful.

I agree. It's self-paralyzing to the country.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #830 on: January 16, 2012, 11:47:34 PM »
I thought Huntsman's drop out speech was good (might have missed some of it, I was watching the CC of it at the gym). Did he say whether or not he was going to endorse anyone?

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« Reply #831 on: January 17, 2012, 12:20:08 AM »
He endorsed Romney in his speech.

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« Reply #832 on: January 17, 2012, 06:23:55 AM »
He endorsed Romney in his speech.

Oh what the fuck! >:(

After all that shit about how this campaign was nothing more than pointless slandering not worthy of the American people, he goes and picks the worst offender.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #833 on: January 17, 2012, 06:30:48 AM »
I never got why people thought Huntsman was much better than any of the other candidates. He threw a few bones to the moderates and didn't always pander to the lowest common denominator for cheers at debates but other than that, he seemed like same ol same ol.

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« Reply #834 on: January 17, 2012, 11:46:14 AM »
Prediction: if Romney somehow wins (I have a hard time seeing this happening), Huntsman should be the obvious pick for State Secretary. He has the experience, he looks at the seen and the unseen of foreign affairs - including economic prospects.

The only problem is, Romney's foreign policy advisers are largely neo-con Bush/Cheney people... huge problem.

I personally love Romney's free enterprise rhetoric, but his foreign policy rhetoric scares me deeply.

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« Reply #835 on: January 17, 2012, 01:01:48 PM »
Prediction: if Romney somehow wins (I have a hard time seeing this happening)

Winning as in winning the election, or winning the nomination? Because, winning the nomination is at this point just a matter of time, IMHO. None of the other candidates really have any momentum going.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #836 on: January 17, 2012, 01:14:27 PM »
I wouldn't say Huntsman should be an obvious replacement for Clinton if Obama gets reelected :lol

I mean winning the general election. It's probably not likely to happen though.

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« Reply #837 on: January 17, 2012, 07:14:34 PM »
I imagine it'll depend upon the poll numbers in July, and right up to the convention, but Obama can always do something good and switch up the VP.

He endorsed Romney in his speech.

Oh what the fuck! >:(

After all that shit about how this campaign was nothing more than pointless slandering not worthy of the American people, he goes and picks the worst offender.

Ya, this sorta makes me not like the man. He's always seemed a little more genuine then the rest of the crop, and quite a bit more moderate. I mean, I wouldn't vote for him, but I wouldn't be horrified if he got into office.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #838 on: January 17, 2012, 08:00:23 PM »
Do people not like the VP? I can understand frustration with his basically being a non-entity, but did he actively do something bad?
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #839 on: January 18, 2012, 08:45:35 AM »
I like Joe Biden.  I actually liked him for President.  I wanted the ticket switched with Obama as VP and Biden as president.  Might have been a little bit less gridlock that way because Biden has a lot of friends across the aisle.

As far as Huntsman endorsing Romney, I think that was his only good move.  Everyone knows Romney's going to be the nominee.