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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #140 on: October 18, 2011, 07:13:06 PM »
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2011, 07:17:33 PM »
Faith and the right to bear arms are next. This is going to be gold.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #142 on: October 18, 2011, 07:18:57 PM »
I can't fucking wait to see what Jon Stewart does with this material.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #143 on: October 18, 2011, 07:20:36 PM »
I can't wait for Bill Maher to tear these dudes apart.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #144 on: October 18, 2011, 07:27:08 PM »
Michele Bachmann is a professional question avoiderer.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #145 on: October 18, 2011, 07:28:14 PM »
I can't tell who's worse: her, Cain, or Perry?

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #146 on: October 18, 2011, 07:52:03 PM »
I'm going to laugh my fucking ass off when Obama gets reelected.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #147 on: October 18, 2011, 07:53:23 PM »
I can't tell who's worse: her, Cain, or Perry?
I loved when Perry answered the question about Texas's 1,000,000+ uninsured children by accusing Romney of hiring illegal aliens. 

And I certainly loved hearing him get booed. 
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #148 on: October 18, 2011, 08:02:06 PM »
I can't wait for Bill Maher to tear these dudes apart.

No offense, but Bill Maher is an idiot. Jon Stewart is infinitely more wise and tactful.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #149 on: October 18, 2011, 08:10:45 PM »
How anyone can possibly support Herman Cain is just beyond me. He's a complete idiot.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #150 on: October 18, 2011, 08:15:26 PM »
I can't wait for Bill Maher to tear these dudes apart.

No offense, but Bill Maher is an idiot. Jon Stewart is infinitely more wise and tactful.

I don't need tact. As for wise, I just dig Bill Maher because we are very similar in our political beliefs and other more secular ones. If I may ask, why do you dislike him so?

edit: The only major issue Maher and I disagree upon is the death penalty. I'm set in stone on that one.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #151 on: October 18, 2011, 08:22:44 PM »
I think Maher is mostly a blowhard but there are sometimes good conversations on his show.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #152 on: October 18, 2011, 08:22:58 PM »
I can't wait for Bill Maher to tear these dudes apart.

No offense, but Bill Maher is an idiot. Jon Stewart is infinitely more wise and tactful.

I don't need tact. As for wise, I just dig Bill Maher because we are very similar in our political beliefs and other more secular ones. If I may ask, why do you dislike him so?

edit: The only major issue Maher and I disagree upon is the death penalty. I'm set in stone on that one.

Eh, no point in explaining. I disagree with him and he's an absolute ass.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #153 on: October 18, 2011, 08:26:58 PM »
I think Maher is mostly a blowhard but there are sometimes good conversations on his show.

I'd agree on both accounts, but the first point is just the comedian in him coming out. I enjoy the talks on his shows and he isn't afraid to bring on intense conservatives. He has Ann Coulter (sweet jesus) on a few weeks ago. That made for a good show.

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Well, I can understand disagreeing with him, but I would like to know why. However, that is a conversation for outside this thread as it does not pertain to the thread. As for the ass part, yes, he is an ass.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #154 on: October 18, 2011, 08:30:00 PM »
Maher is too much of a snobby ass for me to take his political discussion seriously, yet not quite funny enough for me to enjoy his show strictly as a comedy either.  Not a fan.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #155 on: October 18, 2011, 08:30:57 PM »
Ann Coulter should not be on anybody's show :lol

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #156 on: October 18, 2011, 08:31:07 PM »
Maher is too much of a snobby ass for me to take his political discussion seriously, yet not quite funny enough for me to enjoy his show strictly as a comedy either.  Not a fan.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #157 on: October 18, 2011, 10:06:45 PM »
Holy shit. If Rick Perry doesn't hang it up after this debate, I'll be shocked.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #158 on: October 18, 2011, 10:09:36 PM »
Holy shit. If Rick Perry doesn't hang it up after this debate, I'll be shocked.

I hope that's the case.  If he's out, that means one less scary Repub to worry about them nominating.

Of the current Repub field, Romney is the one I'd be least worried for the US's future if he became president. 

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #159 on: October 19, 2011, 05:15:19 AM »
Well I'm looking for a scary Repub to get the nomination, so... :biggrin:
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #160 on: October 19, 2011, 05:39:24 AM »
Well I'm looking for a scary Repub to get the nomination, so... :biggrin:

I still find Bachman more scary. Rick Perry is an idiot, but Michelle Bachman's platform amounts to "I understand nothing about the subtleties being discussed, but hey OBAMA SUCKS." I'm starting to think that she's just addicted to the guaranteed applause those kinda statements get.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #161 on: October 19, 2011, 06:27:29 AM »
I can't take Herman Cain seriously

He once made a comment that black voters vote democrat instead of republican, by and large, because they're 'brainwashed' (totally ad libbing; don't remember the exact quote)

It's like he's blaming his own lack of black support on the democratic party lol

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #162 on: October 19, 2011, 07:43:58 AM »
Holy shit. If Rick Perry doesn't hang it up after this debate, I'll be shocked.

He's got more than enough cash on hand to continue at least through the South Carolina primary, so I don't see him quitting anytime soon.


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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #163 on: October 19, 2011, 07:56:33 AM »
Well I'm looking for a scary Repub to get the nomination, so... :biggrin:

You see, my thought is that if Obama somehow loses to the Repubs, I'd much rather that Repub be Mitt than, say, Perry.  Or Bachmann.  Or Cain.  Or any of those guys, really; most of them don't give me good vibes at all, hence, Mitt would be least bad.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #164 on: October 19, 2011, 08:02:17 AM »
The only two Republicans that are currently in the race that Obama could possibly lose to would be Mitt Romney and Rick Perry.

The rest of them present no threat to Obama because even the Republicans understand that people like Michele Bachmann are unelectable at this level.


I think Romney will be the nominee, and I hope that it will produce some apathy in the Religious Right base of the Republican party resulting in 4 more years of Obama.  He's not really who I want in office (he's no where remotely close to being liberal enough for me) but he will continue to nominate liberals to the courts, which is the biggest impact any president ever has.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #165 on: October 19, 2011, 08:07:54 AM »
Why does everyone ignore Ron Paul? I mean seriously he's probably the only honest politician on that stage.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #166 on: October 19, 2011, 08:09:07 AM »
Well I'm looking for a scary Repub to get the nomination, so... :biggrin:

You see, my thought is that if Obama somehow loses to the Repubs, I'd much rather that Repub be Mitt than, say, Perry.  Or Bachmann.  Or Cain.  Or any of those guys, really; most of them don't give me good vibes at all, hence, Mitt would be least bad.
Why is Romney (who has clearly come out as the Wall Street Candidate) any more palatable than the rest of them?

They're all reprehensible.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #167 on: October 19, 2011, 08:34:30 AM »
Why does everyone ignore Ron Paul? I mean seriously he's probably the only honest politician on that stage.

I'd guess it's because he's not speaking the same language as the other candidates at all. In fact, he doesn't even belong under the same tent. He sells himself as the "tr00 republican" who's more Reagan style than the current bunch, but he would have been on the fringe during Reagan's time too (and, in fact, he was). My guess is the Republican establishment sees him for what he is-- a (albeit noble) poser trying to hijack the party from the inside.

The thing that doesn't help is he seems to be losing some of his articulateness. He was great in 2008, but now he sounds like someone's crazy uncle. This is due, in all probability, to the fact that instead of reassessing his own platform he's spent the last 3 years listening to 17 year old boys reaffirm his positions for him. Compare that to Mitt, who has no-doubt spent every waking moment since losing last year's primary preparing for this moment. The difference in his confidence and preparedness since last time around is astounding, IMHO.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #168 on: October 19, 2011, 08:48:16 AM »
Why does everyone ignore Ron Paul? I mean seriously he's probably the only honest politician on that stage.

Well, first off, he's 75 years old.  I think that might be pushing the envelope a bit.  That would make him the oldest president ever elected by 5 years (Reagan was 70 when he was inaugurated)

Secondly, do you really, honestly believe that the Christian right is going to embrace a guy who thinks Heroin should be legal?  It ain't gonna happen.

Other things he says that are just kind of wacky are that he wants to abolish the IRA, end income taxes, eliminate 5 cabinet level positions/departments in the government, it's all pie in the sky nonsense that everyone knows is never going to get done.

Ron Paul is, in a word:  "Unelectable" when it comes to the presidency.

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« Reply #169 on: October 19, 2011, 08:51:23 AM »
He really is. Most of his base comes from outside of the Republican establishment, which is why Republican's don't dig him. I personally like a lot of his policies and am glad he's managed to get his views out there into the mainstream, but Republicans know better. They know that if they elect him they'll secretly be getting Noam Chomsky.

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« Reply #170 on: October 19, 2011, 09:04:57 AM »
Which is why he should have opted to run as a third party candidate years ago.  His loyalty to the GOP is misguided and more harmful than anything else.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #171 on: October 19, 2011, 09:18:22 AM »
Ron Paul is, in a word:  "Unelectable" when it comes to the presidency.

That's just sad. He would make a great president.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #172 on: October 19, 2011, 09:20:49 AM »
My guess is the Republican establishment sees him for what he is-- a (albeit noble) poser trying to hijack the party from the inside.
Ron Paul. A poser? What is he posing as? You're saying he's not honest?

The reason he's running as a republican though is because of voter access. It's terribly hard to even get on the ballot is you're not a republican or a democrat, he has consistently voted for increasing the access for other parties to get on the ballots. He's not there to "infiltrate", he's simply there to spread his views of person liberty and responsibility.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #173 on: October 19, 2011, 09:20:58 AM »
Ron Paul is, in a word:  "Unelectable" when it comes to the presidency.

That's just sad. He would make a great president.
I don't know about that, but fuck at least he has some integrity.

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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #174 on: October 19, 2011, 09:25:54 AM »
Ron Paul is, in a word:  "Unelectable" when it comes to the presidency.

That's just sad. He would make a great president.
I don't know about that, but fuck at least he has some integrity.

That's what I mean. Who do you think was the last president who was honest as Ron Paul is today?
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