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Do you think the title 'A Dramatic Turn of Events' will appear as a lyric in the new album?

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Offline RoeDent

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'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« on: August 10, 2011, 06:10:10 AM »
Something I just thought about. If it's been done before or whatever, I apologise.

Do you think that the album's title will appear anywhere in the lyrics of A Dramatic Turn of Events? If you want to go further, try and predict in which song that line will appear. Obviously not in 'On the Backs of Angels'.  ;D
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2011, 06:12:13 AM »
Yes, and I base that on absolutely nothing.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 06:16:59 AM »
No i don't think so. I believe JP said in an interview that the title came up as something referring to the meaning of the songs, not a particular lyric.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 06:52:00 AM »
Quote from: nikatapi on August 10, 2011, 06:16:59 AM
No i don't think so. I believe JP said in an interview that the title came up as something referring to the meaning of the songs, not a particular lyric.

Source?

I think he said that the title DID come because of the song's lyrical meanings/subject matter, but that doesn't mean it isn't used in the lyrics. I don't think he flat-out refuted the assumption. I think it'd be quiet nice to hear the album title in the lyrics, like WDADU and IAW. It'd be like when a character in a film says the title of the film in the film.

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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 06:53:32 AM »
Probably not. We haven't heard an album title in a Dream Theater album since Octavarium, and before that, it was Scenes From a Memory. They don't seem to want to do that too often.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 07:00:05 AM »
No.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 07:01:25 AM »
Most likely not.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 07:09:22 AM »
Quote from: Aniland on August 10, 2011, 06:53:32 AM
Probably not. We haven't heard an album title in a Dream Theater album since Octavarium, and before that, it was Scenes From a Memory. They don't seem to want to do that too often.
Two albums between SFaM and 8V, two albums between 8V and ADToE. YES!
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 07:11:50 AM »
my mind tells me no... my feelings tell me yes....
went with yes...
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 07:17:18 AM »
Quote from: Aniland on August 10, 2011, 06:53:32 AM
Probably not. We haven't heard an album title in a Dream Theater album since Octavarium, and before that, it was Scenes From a Memory. They don't seem to want to do that too often.

Well, they did it for:
WD&DU
I&W
Awake
SFaM
Octavarium

And wanted to do it for FII (the title was supposed to be Stream of Consciousness).  

So, it seems they wanted to do it on the majority of their studio albums.  (And if you broaden it to "album titles that are in the lyrics or the title of a song they contain", then it's everything except ToT, SC, and BC&SL.)
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 08:08:26 AM »
I hope not.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 08:59:15 AM »
I really struggle to see how it could be made a lyric without sounding forced and, quite frankly, slightly silly.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 09:00:10 AM »
My guess is no.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 09:41:07 AM »
Probably not.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 10:44:53 AM »
Quote from: Hayden on August 10, 2011, 08:59:15 AM
I really struggle to see how it could be made a lyric without sounding forced and, quite frankly, slightly silly.
When Dream and Day Unite didn't sound forced to me in Light Fuse and Get Away, i think they could make it fit.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2011, 10:54:20 AM »
Octavarium doesn't count. One of the songs is called Octavarium, it's not based on a lyric within a song. If you counted 8V, why didn't you count SDOIT?

I don't think it's going to be a lyric in a song, but it's a possibility. I vote no.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2011, 11:21:56 AM »
Quote from: GasparXR on August 10, 2011, 10:54:20 AM
Octavarium doesn't count. One of the songs is called Octavarium, it's not based on a lyric within a song. If you counted 8V, why didn't you count SDOIT?

Probably because the word 'Octavarium' actually does appear in the lyrics of the song Octavarium.  Four times in the space of thirty seconds, those thirty seconds being the climax of the entire album.


Also, I voted yes.  No real reason; just a feeling.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2011, 11:26:12 AM »
Quote from: bss4life15 on August 10, 2011, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: Hayden on August 10, 2011, 08:59:15 AM
I really struggle to see how it could be made a lyric without sounding forced and, quite frankly, slightly silly.
When Dream and Day Unite didn't sound forced to me in Light Fuse and Get Away, i think they could make it fit.

IIRC, wasn't it a lyric in "Only A Matter Of Time"? Or was it in both? I haven't listened to WDADU in awhile...

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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2011, 04:17:45 PM »
Quote from: The Letter M on August 10, 2011, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: bss4life15 on August 10, 2011, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: Hayden on August 10, 2011, 08:59:15 AM
I really struggle to see how it could be made a lyric without sounding forced and, quite frankly, slightly silly.
When Dream and Day Unite didn't sound forced to me in Light Fuse and Get Away, i think they could make it fit.

IIRC, wasn't it a lyric in "Only A Matter Of Time"? Or was it in both? I haven't listened to WDADU in awhile...

-Marc.

I think you're right, I only see it in Only A Matter of Time.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2011, 04:58:11 PM »
Quote from: bss4life15 on August 10, 2011, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: Hayden on August 10, 2011, 08:59:15 AM
I really struggle to see how it could be made a lyric without sounding forced and, quite frankly, slightly silly.
When Dream and Day Unite didn't sound forced to me in Light Fuse and Get Away, i think they could make it fit.

If Pink Floyd managed it with "A momentary lapse of reason", then anyone can.

But I don't think this is the case. So no.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2011, 05:19:27 PM »
I don't think so... it feels to me more like Black Clouds and Silver Linings was, kinda like the whole idea of the album rather than attached to a specific song or situation.
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Re: 'A dramatic turn of events' as a lyric
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2011, 05:23:10 PM »
Albums that have a song-title lyric: WDADU, IAW, Awake, Octavarium
Albums that have a reference to the title: ACOS, SFAM, SDOIT, SC
Albums that have no reference to the title: FII, TOT, BCSL

I'm guessing it'll be the second one.
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