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Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album

Started by AndyDT, April 29, 2009, 01:02:19 PM

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AndyDT

Why do you say that? Do you prefer it to the original QR style?

bosk1

It's just a very well-written and well-executed album that is consistently good from start to finish.  And to me, Queensryche has always had an interesting character as a band in that they clearly blazed their own trails and had their own sound on one hand.  But on the other, they also always seemed to simultaneously reflect and be influenced by whatever was relevant in the music world at the time of any given album without copying it.  Given where music was going at the time, I think HITNF was the next logical step in the progression of their sound.  It reflected a simpler, more stripped-down sound for Queensryche, but still retained a certain level of layering, depth, and complexity that imparted the long-standing Queensryche signature. 

AndyDT

I could never get over how many aeons it seems away from something like RageforOrder.

Dublagent66

Maybe I need to give HITNF some more spins.  It's been forever and I was always of the opinion that it was the beginning of the end for QR, at least for me as a fan. PL was the last QR album I really liked.   :-\

King Postwhore

Quote from: bosk1 on May 01, 2009, 12:48:03 PM
It's just a very well-written and well-executed album that is consistently good from start to finish.  And to me, Queensryche has always had an interesting character as a band in that they clearly blazed their own trails and had their own sound on one hand.  But on the other, they also always seemed to simultaneously reflect and be influenced by whatever was relevant in the music world at the time of any given album without copying it.  Given where music was going at the time, I think HITNF was the next logical step in the progression of their sound.  It reflected a simpler, more stripped-down sound for Queensryche, but still retained a certain level of layering, depth, and complexity that imparted the long-standing Queensryche signature. 

Bosk1 you couldn't have said it better.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

ariich

HITNF certainly has its good moments, and I certainly have no issues with it stylistically because that never really bothers me and I love when bands try something different. But I dunno, I just don't find it overall a very interesting listen. Different strokes I guess.

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

TAC

Quote from: ariich on May 01, 2009, 02:33:38 PM
HITNF certainly has its good moments, and I certainly have no issues with it stylistically because that never really bothers me and I love when bands try something different. But I dunno, I just don't find it overall a very interesting listen. Different strokes I guess.

I agree. I can certainly appreciate what they were trying to do.  But the total lack of quality songs just really drags it down.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

Nick

Quote from: AndyDT on May 01, 2009, 01:10:57 PM
I could never get over how many aeons it seems away from something like RageforOrder.

Although their was always this distinctivly Ryche flavor to it, I can't express enough the progression from the EP to Rage for Order, from Rage to Mindcrime, from Mindcrime to Empire, and from Empire to Promised Land. All of those albums (including the Warning which is a transition from EP to Rage for me) sound very much like Queensryche and maintain a level of excellence, in my opinion even with Chris DeGarmo Hear in the Now lost that Queensryche spark, and much more important is lost the excellence. It would be the first of several albums that lost their identity as Ryche albums and were really best held together by the unmistakable voice of Geoff Tate.

AndyDT

Mindcrime always seems to stand out a mile with its guitar work (harmonies, solo, interesting riffs etc).

LudwigVan

Quote from: Nick on May 01, 2009, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: AndyDT on May 01, 2009, 01:10:57 PM
I could never get over how many aeons it seems away from something like RageforOrder.

Although their was always this distinctivly Ryche flavor to it, I can't express enough the progression from the EP to Rage for Order, from Rage to Mindcrime, from Mindcrime to Empire, and from Empire to Promised Land. All of those albums (including the Warning which is a transition from EP to Rage for me) sound very much like Queensryche and maintain a level of excellence, in my opinion even with Chris DeGarmo Hear in the Now lost that Queensryche spark, and much more important is lost the excellence. It would be the first of several albums that lost their identity as Ryche albums and were really best held together by the unmistakable voice of Geoff Tate.

Excellent point.  From the EP to PL, Queensryche progressed beautifully within the framework of their own sound.

abydos

I just listened to Chasing Blue Sky. I had forgotten how goddamn amazing this song is. All I Want too. Good times.

bosk1

Quote from: abydos on May 05, 2009, 04:48:10 AM
I just listened to Chasing Blue Sky. I had forgotten how goddamn amazing this song is. All I Want too. Good times.

:omg: Finally, someone else who likes that song!   :metal

I need to have my own QR shirt made:


abydos

Who is singing on it, though? That's not Tate.

bosk1

It's DeGarmo.  I kinda like it.  It is a quirky song, but cool nonetheless, and I think his voice fits it.

KevShmev

HITNF has a few good songs, but is generally inconsistent, and it sounds terrible.  My goodness, I can never get over how flat the overall sounds is, especially the drums.  Listen to a mix of QR songs on shuffle and you will really be able to tell how much worse songs from that record sound that everything else before it, even the 80s material, which has that, well, 80s sound to it.  "The Voice Inside" and "Hero" are the two clear-cut standouts on that record.  Songs like "Get a Life," "You" and "Saved" are just embarrassing.   

AndyDT

To my mind, they haven't done a metal album since 1988 with the possible exception of Mindcrime 2 and bits of Tribe.

King Postwhore

Quote from: KevShmev on June 04, 2009, 08:28:19 AM
HITNF has a few good songs, but is generally inconsistent, and it sounds terrible.  My goodness, I can never get over how flat the overall sounds is, especially the drums.  Listen to a mix of QR songs on shuffle and you will really be able to tell how much worse songs from that record sound that everything else before it, even the 80s material, which has that, well, 80s sound to it.  "The Voice Inside" and "Hero" are the two clear-cut standouts on that record.  Songs like "Get a Life," "You" and "Saved" are just embarrassing.   

KevShmev I like this album,  Yes it was influenced by the "Dry Sound" erea but I like that they we're streching themselves.  It's much better than Q2K and OM2.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

KevShmev

Quote from: kingshmegland on June 04, 2009, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on June 04, 2009, 08:28:19 AM
HITNF    

KevShmev I like this album,  Yes it was influenced by the "Dry Sound" erea but I like that they we're streching themselves.  It's much better than Q2K and OM2.

Well, sure, but that is like saying that getting kicked in the shins is better than being kicked in the balls.  Neither is a very appealing option. :lol

Zydar


abydos


skydivingninja


Sintheros

Some related comments over yonder on the MP forum.

https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2426666.aspx

This has Susan written all over it. QR and Cabaret? Really?

Samsara

If you really want discussion on that ridiculous event, go to the biggest forum of QR fans (that don't kiss the band's ass) online:

https://www.anybodylistening.net/breakdownroom/index.php?topic=1603.0

The Breakdown Room (AnybodyListening.net's forum).

bosk1 is a mod. Be afraid. Very afraid.

Nick

Quote from: Samsara on October 13, 2009, 10:57:31 AM
bosk1 is a mod. Be afraid. Very afraid.

Who?

In any case the Nick person posting in the thread over at your site is a total tool.

Sintheros

Quote from: Nick on October 13, 2009, 12:10:12 PM
Quote from: Samsara on October 13, 2009, 10:57:31 AM
bosk1 is a mod. Be afraid. Very afraid.

Who?

In any case the Nick person posting in the thread over at your site is a total tool.

He seems to have a thing for popes. Creepy.

Cool Chris

Direct from their website:

QuoteA fun-filled evening like no other full of freaks and shrieks.

Audience members will have an opportunity to participate... but prior written consent will be required as it won't be for the faint of heart.

This is only a few miles from me (albeit not my favorite casino in the area). Tempted... so tempted...
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

TAC

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 14, 2009, 01:11:56 PM
Direct from their website:

QuoteA fun-filled evening like no other full of freaks and shrieks.

Audience members will have an opportunity to participate... but prior written consent will be required as it won't be for the faint of heart.

This is only a few miles from me (albeit not my favorite casino in the area). Tempted... so tempted...

Chris, you could go as the Official DTF reporter.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

dver

Sorry if this is blasphemy, but really the ONLY QR album that truly stands out for me is obviously Operation Mindcrime
( Its one of the best prog-metal albums ever made though but thats not the point lol:P)

Weymolith

Just when you thought the worst was over.... At this point, just bring on Zombie Queensryche.

Quote"Ladies and gentleman and 'kids' of only adult ages, welcome to what promises to be the spectacle of all spectacles better known as the Queensrÿche Cabaret.

The Queensrÿche Cabaret — heralded as 'the first adults only rock show' (21 and over) — will be Teatro ZinZanni meets Cirque du Soleil with the band performing their hits and never-heard-before selections accompanied by go-go dancers, burlesque dancers, drag queens, a juggler, ballet dancer, trapeze artist, a contortionist and others. Definitely a fun-filled evening like no other full of freaks and shrieks!

"What good is sitting alone in your room? Come hear the music play!

"Those who attend the Queensrÿche Cabaret will have the option of just sitting back and enjoying the music and theatrics or actually being a part of the elaborate stage show! Prior written consent will be required as it won't be for the faint of heart... It'll be sights and sounds coming at you from all angles like never before!

"See some evil, hear some evil, speak some evil and have some fun.

"Life is a Queensrÿche Cabaret, old chum, come to the Cabaret!

"Request passes now! We're offering three types: Meet-and-Greets, Victim and 'On Stage'."

The dates are as follows:

Apr. 27 - Milwaukee, WI - Potawatomi Casino
Apr. 28 - Milwaukee, WI - Potawatomi Casino
May 20 - Phoenix, AZ - Sage Amphitheater
May 21 - San Diego, CA - 4th and B
May 22 - Palm Springs, CA - Agua Caliente

TheVoxyn


Dr. SeaWolf

Goddamnit, Geoff... really?  REALLY?

They need to throw in the towel at this point... this is just so embarrassing.

As a side note, I'm listening to The Warning right now and wondering what Warning-era QR would have to say about this monstrosity.

Zydar

"Life is a Queensrÿche Cabaret, old chum!" :lol Really?

Darkes7

I remember there was a thread about this not so long ago. I really like American Soldier (contrary to lots of reviews I've seen), but this is just a fucking disgrace.

Mebert78

Fans should be allowed to pay extra for lap dances on stage while the band plays next to them.
An unofficial online community for fans of keyboardist Kevin Moore:


Dr. SeaWolf

This is just such a contrast to the band's '80s image, when they had sort of a proletariat/revolutionary attitude in their lyrics.  This sort of embarrassingly garish nonsense is just about the polar opposite.