Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album

[ReaperKK]

Chris absolutely pays attention to what Queensryche and his former bandmates do. I know that for an absolute fact. For example, he has, and has read, the biography I helped write on the band that published last year. He played live last year with Lily Cornell Silver doing a tribute to Alice in Chains. He played acoustic guitar on "Drone" by Alice in Chains (uncredited except for Jerry Cantrell mentioning it in an interview) on their last album. He's very much still a musician. He's just not in the spotlight. And it seems he really prefers it that way. Can't say I blame him. My respect for Chris has only grown in the last several years. I wish he was more...public with his music. But that's his choice, and I'm thankful for what we have.

Another notable collaboration (although, amazingly, that's already 17 years old too!!) was on dredg's Catch Without Arms (co-wrote a couple songs, helped with arrangements...can't quite remember if he played on it too). Fantastic album, that one.

I remember seeing dredg years ago and they talked about working with him, they didn't mention QR so I assumed it was a guy with the same name. I was surprised when I got home and learned it was the same Chris.

[ytserush]

I get it if people don't like that style, but as the years have gone on, I really have come to appreciate HITNF a lot. Sure, there is way more filler than usual (a product of the experiment they did of not over rehearsing the material and just going in and doing it more spontaneous). But the record is completely full of all the usual Queensryche hallmarks. It is, like all the albums before it, an evolution of sound by Queensryche. And I really enjoy the variety.

Took about 15 years since the release date for me to figure this out.

[ytserush]

I don't hate American Soldier

The guy that made the CD-R for me totally fucked up the track order, but I remember it working way better that way.

I think that and Take Cover were the last two Queensryche albums I ever bought. Maybe Mindcrime at the Moore was....

Got off the bus after that never to return.

[NunoBadmintoncourt]

Hi, long time lurker first time poster here.

Hold on- trying to decry shallowness while being just as shallow. Pointing at gen Z like this just makes the band look like a bunch of old harumphs. Trend following and materialism are nothing new, it's just more technological now. What's with the digs at plastic surgery? I'd bet my ass someone's GF/wife of the boys has had a nip/tuck or two, seems a bit hypocritical. It's also unintentionally sexist. A lot of the imagery is women putting on makeup, applying lipstick (there are multiple shots of this throughout the video), mascara, shoe shopping, trying on clothes etc. They do show both men and woman on their devices. But they don't show men buying motorcycles, golf clubs, boats, watches. Meaning the things women stereotypically buy are shallow but the things men spend money on aren't? Along with at least 3 or 4 shots of pills/pill taking. Really?! Fuck you, I need my meds to function. WTF Queensryche, do better.

Fascinating.

As much attention as "toxic masculinity" gets in the media, I haven't a single problem with this video.

[Autumnhoney]

I never mentioned "toxic masculinity", It's just not very well thought out. I'm sure a lot of people like it as much as you do, as a matter of fact it has many positive comments. QR videos could be so much more. I don't watch music videos in general unless it's a band I care about, plenty of movies though. I'd expect other genres to be all style no substance, it's pretty much the standard. Tool sets a high bar because Adam Jones is also a visual artist, but I'd use them as an example. I'm sure there are plenty of film students/directors that would like to sink their teeth into QR material. It seems like they've settled for just Okay.

After reading the descriptions Todd gives of the intention for the videos and watching them critically, they're just not a successful interpretation.

[Autumnhoney]

Is anybody here thinking about NOT going when QR swings by their area because of the venue?

March 2023 they'll be at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland. It's a small venue which is a good thing because there are literally no nosebleed seats but it's all general admission. I've sworn to NEVER do GA again after the last concert I went to. It's a long story I won't get into, "it was a bad time" is putting it mildly.

I feel like an ass because I've never seen them live and they probably don't have many tours left in them. But I hate GA SO MUCH!

I'm wondering if it might not be worth taking the train up to Seattle and seeing the show there. Anyone familiar with The Neptune?

[jammindude]

Is anybody here thinking about NOT going when QR swings by their area because of the venue?

March 2023 they'll be at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland. It's a small venue which is a good thing because they're are literally no nosebleed seats but it's all general admission. I've sworn to NEVER do GA again after the last concert I went to. It's a long story I won't get into, "it was a bad time" is putting it mildly.

I feel like an ass because I've never seen them live and they probably don't have many tours left in them. But I hat GA SO MUCH!

I'm wondering if it might not be worth taking the train up to Seattle and seeing the show there. Anyone familiar with The Neptune?

I *LOVE* The Crystal Ballroom. I've only been there twice. Once in the late 90s for The Lovemongers (essentially a Heart show). And then in 2012 to see Gotye. I love the acoustics, and I especially love the ballroom "springboard" floor.

If it wasn't for the midweek date, I would make the trip to Portland just to visit that venue again.

[Dittomist]

Is anybody here thinking about NOT going when QR swings by their area because of the venue?

March 2023 they'll be at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland. It's a small venue which is a good thing because they're are literally no nosebleed seats but it's all general admission. I've sworn to NEVER do GA again after the last concert I went to. It's a long story I won't get into, "it was a bad time" is putting it mildly.

I feel like an ass because I've never seen them live and they probably don't have many tours left in them. But I hat GA SO MUCH!

I'm wondering if it might not be worth taking the train up to Seattle and seeing the show there. Anyone familiar with The Neptune?

Yeah, the Crystal Ballroom is a fantastic venue! They have balcony seating if you get there early enough, but I've always preferred the floor for rock shows. I was just at the Neptune Theatre in Seattle last month to see Suede and the Manic Street Preachers, and it was a decent venue. It felt smaller than the Crystal though and nowhere near as beautiful. I recommend getting food/drinks at Big Time Brewing if you decide to go there.

[Samsara]

Is anybody here thinking about NOT going when QR swings by their area because of the venue?

March 2023 they'll be at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland. It's a small venue which is a good thing because there are literally no nosebleed seats but it's all general admission. I've sworn to NEVER do GA again after the last concert I went to. It's a long story I won't get into, "it was a bad time" is putting it mildly.

I feel like an ass because I've never seen them live and they probably don't have many tours left in them. But I hate GA SO MUCH!

I'm wondering if it might not be worth taking the train up to Seattle and seeing the show there. Anyone familiar with The Neptune?

If you hate GA, then perhaps you should avoid their headline tours. That's all they really play these days. Better to wait and see them supporting another band.

I think I posted a couple pages ago that my wife and I were planning to see this tour, but when it was in the local venue (GA) that we absolutely despise, we decided not to. But QR is a club level band as a headliner. They aren't going to really ever get up to the level where DT is at where they do all assigned seating and play theaters. QR has pretty much fallen into that club level circuit and that's all they really can do on their own.

[Grappler]

QR is playing in Milwaukee the same night as Steel Panther, at the same venue.  Steel Panther will be in one of the larger rooms and QR will be in one of the smaller rooms, as crazy as that is.

I put in for free tickets for that QR show, since The Rave/Eagles Ballroom runs a contest for each show.  I'm doubting that they'd even sell out one of the smaller rooms.

[Samsara]

QR is playing in Milwaukee the same night as Steel Panther, at the same venue.  Steel Panther will be in one of the larger rooms and QR will be in one of the smaller rooms, as crazy as that is.

I put in for free tickets for that QR show, since The Rave/Eagles Ballroom runs a contest for each show.  I'm doubting that they'd even sell out one of the smaller rooms.

Last time I saw QR in Milwaukee, it was...the Riverside Ballroom, I believe. Is that place still around? I was there November 1999.

[Grappler]

QR is playing in Milwaukee the same night as Steel Panther, at the same venue.  Steel Panther will be in one of the larger rooms and QR will be in one of the smaller rooms, as crazy as that is.

I put in for free tickets for that QR show, since The Rave/Eagles Ballroom runs a contest for each show.  I'm doubting that they'd even sell out one of the smaller rooms.

Last time I saw QR in Milwaukee, it was...the Riverside Ballroom, I believe. Is that place still around? I was there November 1999.

The Riverside Theater, and it is still there.  I saw Megadeth at that theater in 1999.  The theater don't host too many metal shows anymore - most of those are at the Rave/Eagles Ballroom. 

[Samsara]

I'll always remember the back-to-back shows in Chicago/Milwaukee in 1999. The Chicago one, we missed doubleDrive (unfortunately) the opener. I flew in from New York, and traffic made us miss part of the show. But we were "treated" to some woman who decided to go topless during QR's set and being carried on the shoulders of the guy she was with, strolling all around the GA floor. LOL. Then I ended up getting food poisoning AND a norovirus. I made it (barely) to Milwaukee, saw doubleDrive (who were a great band and put on a killer set), saw QR, slept, got on a plane, went home, packed, left for a work trip, was sick the entire time (I missed half the conference being in my hotel room), got home, managed to file a few stories about the conference (I wisely went to various sessions and stayed for half of them so I could write about them - I was a journalist at the time), got healthy, and then went up to Connecticut to see QR one more time in 1999. Whirlwind two weeks. 

[Mladen]

Topless girls during the Queensryche show? Are you sure that wasn't the cabaret tour? 

[Samsara]

Topless girls during the Queensryche show? Are you sure that wasn't the cabaret tour? 

No, this was a free topless woman who was a fan. Not a paid Tate family employee. That cabaret tour was such a shame. The setlist was really cool. But there was no way I was seeing that tour.

[Autumnhoney]

I think the real question Samsara, is did the band appreciate the gesture? I'm not getting any younger, so use it or lose it. 

I might have to bite the bullet and venture out on my own for the PDX show, unfortunately I don't know anyone else who'd want to see them. If that's the only option for a while and the sound is that good, it's a dilemma. I have a feeling it might be less rowdy than the APC concert I went to, then again alcohol is being sold, hmm.
Maybe if someone on the board decides to go we can use the buddy system. Perhaps someone with strong shoulders?

I'm more than a bit annoyed they have so many Florida gigs and only a couple in the PNW. I'm guessing it's because half the band lives there now. Poor Eddie.

[Samsara]

I think the real question Samsara, is did the band appreciate the gesture? I'm not getting any younger, so use it or lose it. 

They did! That pointed and smiled. I can't remember if they got escorted out or not. I want to say they did, but it was several songs in. 23 years ago, so the brain is a little fuzzy. I wasn't complaining though! It was odd, however, to see that at a QR gig. It was the first and last time I ever saw a woman even flash the band from the crowd, much less just keep em out. And I've seen QR 40 times. LOL.

[TAC]

I may have taken off my shirt at the Promised Land show. It was pretty hot that night.

Does that count?

[Samsara]

I may have taken off my shirt at the Promised Land show. It was pretty hot that night.

Does that count?

Only for the record for fastest departure from Great Woods in recorded history. The mass exodus after you did that was mind boggling.

[Autumnhoney]

I think the real question Samsara, is did the band appreciate the gesture? I'm not getting any younger, so use it or lose it. 

I can't remember if they got escorted out or not.

Over some titties at a concert?! Come on, that's just silly.

If you look at the various concert photos lately there is usually a row of women at the front of the stage. I'm surprised they don't flash a nip nop or two. They look like pretty hardcore fans, I recognize some of them from multiple shows.

TAC I'm not an expert but moobs have to be at least a B cup I think, in order to count.

[TAC]

My moobs in 1995 were nowhere near as developed as they are now. 

[Kwyjibo]

Is "moobs" the official name or did you just make that up? 

[Autumnhoney]

"Moobs" has been around for a while or "mitties" if you prefer.

[Autumnhoney]

My moobs in 1995 were nowhere near as developed as they are now. 

You and me both my friend, I would have been 14 then. I missed out on all the good stuff from the 80's.

[Samsara]

Over some titties at a concert?! Come on, that's just silly.

Yeah, it was. I'm pretty sure they were escorted out though. They were also drunk beyond belief and stumbling, which may have had something to do with it.


re: moobs and TAC - that is a visual I didn't need. LOL

[TAC]

Me neither. I feel like I've been adjusting my shirt endlessly since I read that. 

[Autumnhoney]

I wanted to share this interview with Michael, hopefully it's okay to post. The video only has 265 views, it's a bit older from 2018/19 I think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra7n7iiAq0&list=LL&index=10

It made me giggle, oh Whip.

[bosk1]

It made me giggle, oh Whip.

  I have no idea how that statement applies to this interview. 

[Autumnhoney]

Listen to what he says at 7:48 and then his reaction at 10:50-11:14.

I forget not everybody is a people watcher. His body language and expression are adorable.
Have you ever been at a restaurant and spotted a couple on their first date vs. their 100th?
I'm genuinely fascinated. The little head swivel as she leaves. 

[Stadler]

I think the real question Samsara, is did the band appreciate the gesture? I'm not getting any younger, so use it or lose it. 

I can't remember if they got escorted out or not.

Over some titties at a concert?! Come on, that's just silly.

If you look at the various concert photos lately there is usually a row of women at the front of the stage. I'm surprised they don't flash a nip nop or two. They look like pretty hardcore fans, I recognize some of them from multiple shows.

TAC I'm not an expert but moobs have to be at least a B cup I think, in order to count.

TAC qualifies. 

If we're on the subject, I think I've seen more topless women at Kiss shows than all other bands combined.

[Grappler]

If we're on the subject, I think I've seen more topless women at Kiss shows than all other bands combined.

Metallica for me - in between the opening band and Metallica coming on stage, there would be a good, hour-long break where fans had to keep themselves entertained.  The house lights would come down and the spotlight operators would start shining the spotlight at women who were flashing the crowd so the whole arena's attention was drawn to them. 

[bl5150]

Steel Panther for the win - no contest

[EPICVIEW]

Steel Panther for the win - no contest

GAME  ...SET.... MATCH


YOU ARE CORRECT AND WON!!!!

[bosk1]

Wouldn't waste the time seeing Steel Panther if the tickets were free and came with a cash prize.  Not worth my time. 

[NunoBadmintoncourt]

I saw the most at Steel Panther. The Cinderella, Winger, and Bulletboys show I attended back in the day comes in second.