Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album

[goo-goo]

What is the * for?

John 5 is touring with them. * means John 5 won't be playing.

[jingle.boy]

Once again, no Canadian dates, and nothing near Western NY.   

[Stadler]

How far are you from Rochester (say, Rochester Airport)?

Also, for the Boston-area folk, what's "Big Night"? 

[TAC]

Never heard of it.

[King Postwhore]

How far are you from Rochester (say, Rochester Airport)?

Also, for the Boston-area folk, what's "Big Night"?

I guess it's a new venue run by Don Law.

[Ben_Jamin]

What is the * for?

John 5 is touring with them. * means John 5 won't be playing.

What? I'd go just for John 5.

[Cool Chris]

They are playing the Neptune in their hometown of Seattle? What's the capacity there, something like half of The Moore? Is that comparable to where they usually play here? It isn't a casino at least.

[bosk1]

They are playing the Neptune in their hometown of Seattle? What's the capacity there, something like half of The Moore? Is that comparable to where they usually play here? It isn't a casino at least.

I get the knee-jerk distaste for casinos.  I really do.  But honestly, when it comes to concert venues, they can be pretty good.  There is a local one that has a few billboards around this area that regularly gets some pretty top-shelf acts to come play there.  And the one in Reno where DT is playing is a FANTASTIC concert venue (although Jordan hates it). 

[jingle.boy]

How far are you from Rochester (say, Rochester Airport)?

According to Google Maps, I'm 80 miles / 90 minutes from Rochester airport.

[jjrock88]

The casino venue (Club Regent, Winnipeg) that I’ve seen a number of concerts has been a great experience. Every seat is a great view, great venue, respectful crowds, easy access for drinks etc.

[ShadowWalker]

Once again, no Canadian dates, and nothing near Western NY.   

There is a May 1 date at Turning Stone Casino in Verona NY

[ShadowWalker]

This will be the first time since my first time seeing Queensryche open for Def Leppard in 1988 that I am taking a hard pass on seeing them (I didn't even skip the cabaret debacle). The only thing that will change my mind is the inclusion of one or both songs from The Warning that remain on my "songs never heard live that I want to see performed" list - Deliverance and No Sanctuary. They got me through the door the last three times because of solid opening acts (once with Armored Saint and twice earlier this year with Fates Warning), but with no opener that I am interested in, money will be saved when the band comes through Baltimore in February...

[Ayeegit]

Sorry for the slight detour - but Samsara, thanks for your PM regarding my questions about anybodylistening.net.  I tried to respond to you but it looks like you've got PM's blocked - so here's an abridged version just in case you happen to see it here...

I've been a Queensryche fan since the late 80's, and I fondly remember the Screaming In Digital Usenet days, and how that evolved into message boards / websites as the years went on.  So I've poked around your site many times over the years, and I was excited to see that some of it was still available - thanks for all of the work you've done there (and continue to do).

And the whole "Discography" QR thread was a *great* read - really took me back once I got to the points (Mindcrime and beyond) where I had become a fan, and reading your insights about what was happening "behind the scenes" was full of great info.  It re-stoked my love for the original line-up, and I've probably listened to more 'Ryche in the last month than the last 10 years as a result.

Thanks again!

[Samsara]

Hey. You're welcome. And as you know, I fixed my PM settings. Glad you enjoyed the discography thread and the website. That thread was built off the website's history/discography section for the original lineup. Glad everything got you pumped about Queensryche's original lineup again. By far and away, my favorite musical entity of all time. That catalog of music never gets old to listen to.

You and I became fans roughly at the same time (I was 87-88, right before MC, I believe, or it could have just been released, I forget - I know RFO was what I heard first). Screaming in Digital was incredible for the time. Dan Birchall was great. AnybodyListening.net's current form is somewhat patterned after it, just expanded a little. Have a great weekend.

[Samsara]

Been on a Promised Land binge lately. Hard to believe the record was 25 years old in October. I had some thoughts about the album this week, and wrote about it. If interested, check it out here -

http://anybodylistening.net/promisedland-25.html

[TAC]

Been on a Promised Land binge lately. Hard to believe the record was 25 years old in October. I had some thoughts about the album this week, and wrote about it. If interested, check it out here -

http://anybodylistening.net/promisedland-25.html

Interesting. I liked this passage:

"Having reached the pinnacle of commercial success with 1990’s Empire, Tate and DeGarmo exorcise the personal demons accumulated through Queensryche’s decade-plus rise to stardom. It’s a surprisingly brutal and honest account from a band once regarded as deeply secretive. …..But it’s clear the road to Queensryche’s success was littered with difficult choices, and a tinge of regret."



Sam, I have a question, and I'm not sure if you know the answer or not.

Are you familiar at all with the recording schedule? In other words, is none of it rushed? Is some of it rushed? Was it recorded on or before schedule?

[Samsara]

Been on a Promised Land binge lately. Hard to believe the record was 25 years old in October. I had some thoughts about the album this week, and wrote about it. If interested, check it out here -

http://anybodylistening.net/promisedland-25.html

Interesting. I liked this passage:

"Having reached the pinnacle of commercial success with 1990’s Empire, Tate and DeGarmo exorcise the personal demons accumulated through Queensryche’s decade-plus rise to stardom. It’s a surprisingly brutal and honest account from a band once regarded as deeply secretive. …..But it’s clear the road to Queensryche’s success was littered with difficult choices, and a tinge of regret."



Sam, I have a question, and I'm not sure if you know the answer or not.

Are you familiar at all with the recording schedule? In other words, is none of it rushed? Is some of it rushed? Was it recorded on or before schedule?

Not specifically. Just what's generally known. They took the rest of 1992 off after the April 1992 MTV Unplugged and June 1992 Rock the Environment benefit. They reconvened in 1993, which is when (if I am remembering right) Real World was recorded. But my guess is, a lot of their personal stuff went on in 1993, and they ended up at Big Log in spring 1994. Again, all a guess, given the release date of PL.

I can check the liner notes to see if there is anything more definitive when I get home, but that's really all I know.

[bosk1]

I seem to vaguely recall something along the lines of Jimbo having to really push them to get it all done under the deadline, and that there was a lot of stop/start as members came and went.  I got the impression that there was a lot of creativity going on, and lots of work getting done, but that it went down to the wire.  I think that came from the Big Log documentary.  But it has been a LONG time, so I may very well be misremembering.

[Ruba]

The first time I heard Promised Land, I got it from library and instantly loved it. I also really liked the CD booklet, with the big Trirÿche totem pole poster. After I bought the remastered album, I was bummed that it was not part of the package anymore. But last summer I ended up visiting a second hand record store and lo and behold, they had a copy of the original CD. Sold! 

[Samsara]

I seem to vaguely recall something along the lines of Jimbo having to really push them to get it all done under the deadline, and that there was a lot of stop/start as members came and went.  I got the impression that there was a lot of creativity going on, and lots of work getting done, but that it went down to the wire.  I think that came from the Big Log documentary.  But it has been a LONG time, so I may very well be misremembering.

That's what I remember as well. If you remember, the footage shot of the band at Big Log was in the summer. So if that was Summer 1994 (and I think it was), that's cutting it close with an October 18, 1994 release date. Back then, the records HAD to be in like what, three months or more before release? Three months puts them at July 1994. So I am figuring they got it completed about then.

The other thing was "Someone Else?" That song was originally completed as the full band version, and then at the last minute at the end, they made the decision to record it just with piano and a vocal. My guess is, as we talked about for years on the old forum, was that tight timeline was why Tate didn't re-cut the vocals, and Jimbo simply cut up and put Tate's initial vocal from the electric version onto the piano version. But that's all that is -- a guess.

The first time I heard Promised Land, I got it from library and instantly loved it. I also really liked the CD booklet, with the big Trirÿche totem pole poster. After I bought the remastered album, I was bummed that it was not part of the package anymore. But last summer I ended up visiting a second hand record store and lo and behold, they had a copy of the original CD. Sold! 

I love the original insert too.

[bosk1]

ack then, the records HAD to be in like what, three months or more before release?

Yeah, I've heard it referred to as a "10-week cycle" from being in the can to getting it pressed, marketed, and distributed.  No idea whether that is literal or just a general rule of thumb.

[KevShmev]

Been on a Promised Land binge lately. Hard to believe the record was 25 years old in October. I had some thoughts about the album this week, and wrote about it. If interested, check it out here -

http://anybodylistening.net/promisedland-25.html

Nice write-up.

Queensryche might be the only band that is not in my top 20 bands/artists that has an album in my all-time top 20, and that album is Promised Land.  A masterpiece in every way imaginable.

[ytserush]

The first time I heard Promised Land, I got it from library and instantly loved it. I also really liked the CD booklet, with the big Trirÿche totem pole poster. After I bought the remastered album, I was bummed that it was not part of the package anymore. But last summer I ended up visiting a second hand record store and lo and behold, they had a copy of the original CD. Sold! 

I have that Promised Land Totem Promotional poster hanging up in the basement. It's the only Queensryche poster worthy of being displayed.  Also  have The Hear In The Now Frontier Promo flats, but they sit on a shelf in the closet.

I don't think I ever finished that blasted game either. I was only ever able to find 4 totems. That is/was a really cool game.

[Peter Mc]

Promised Land was actually my first Queensryche album. Had literally never heard a single song by them and just bought it off a review and weirdly off someone in Dream Theater (who I’d also never heard of at that time) saying it was incredible. I thought it was patchy (still do) but loved some of the songs. I then went gradually backwards and it was Empire that made me fall in love with them before Mindcrime became my favourite album of all time. Shortly after I decided to give this Dream Theater band a listen and bought Images & Words which would go on to become my other favourite album of all time!

[Phoenix87x]

I really love Promised Land

[goo-goo]

Interview with Michael Wilton

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtZhPFMPjtU&feature=youtu.be

Interesting tidbits about the future of Queensryche

[devieira73]

Plans for a new album sometime in 2021, cool!
It’s a bit weird that it seems that Scott’s situation is still undefined.

[Samsara]

I am fortunate to be a featured guest on Focus on Metal this week. The topic for Episode 445 was initially going to be Queensryche's Q2k. But after getting our "how did we become fans" discussion out of the way, we prefaced the Q2k talk by what led up to it. Namely talking about Hear in the Now Frontier and Chris DeGarmo's departure. It was a fun chat with Richie. He and Scott do a phenomenal job on these weekly podcasts.

Here's the link if you care to listen: http://focusonmetal.net/episodes (episode 445)

If you like what you hear, please consider subscribing to their podcasts. Some really good stuff on there.

[Mebert78]

Listening now while I eat my lunch.  Great job, Brian.  It's a very fun listen.

[Samsara]

Listening now while I eat my lunch.  Great job, Brian.  It's a very fun listen.

Thanks Mike! It was a lot of fun. Hope to do some non-Queensryche stuff with them (and maybe some QR, we'll see) in the future. Good guys.

[MoraWintersoul]

Plans for a new album sometime in 2021, cool!
It’s a bit weird that it seems that Scott’s situation is still undefined.

Yeah, Wilton mentions he hopes they will line up the time with Zeuss (which is understandable, they like how his records sound) and doesn't mention Scott at all. That's dumb.

[bosk1]

Great podcast.  Really enjoyed listening to that.  It's kinda fun when you know one of the guys you are listening to. 

[Samsara]

Great podcast.  Really enjoyed listening to that.  It's kinda fun when you know one of the guys you are listening to. 

Thanks bosk!

[Peter Mc]

This isn’t strictly Queensrÿche but can’t see any mention of the last Avantasia album here which I recently was bought for Christmas. Geoff Tate gets bashed a lot (by me also) here, probably more for his actions than his talent but I have to admit he sounds great on this record, way better than I was expecting him to.

[bosk1]

  Um...check the Avantasia thread.  There was plenty of discussion.