Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album

[KevShmev]

  I wish they hung it up about 23 years ago on a good note

Fixed the date for ya.

[EPICVIEW]

  I wish they hung it up about 23 years ago on a good note

Fixed the date for ya.

LOL

[MoraWintersoul]

Looking at where they are at right now, it's very easy to see what went wrong between them.

To put it politely, Geoff is not a very pleasant person. If he were a singer/songwriter, just him and his guitar, that would be alright, but in order to source new material to tour on, he has to work with other people. He got one taste of acclaim and power in the recent year or two - people judging his projects less harshly, praising his voice in Avantasia, Frontiers set him up with a songwriter for a project that is right in his wheelhouse, and what does he do? Immediately starts lashing out, taking shots and burning bridges. I don't know who will be willing to work with him after this - any label larger than Frontiers certainly isn't gonna give him project proposals, they were the last ones.

On the other hand, Wilton and Rockenfield are just so incredibly passive. Scott's situation, and the band's financial situation, is certainly complicated enough for this problem with Scott to arise. But the path they're taking towards solving that problem is literally the most passive one they can take. They won't even log into their Facebook to type out a statement that mitigates the damage from Todd unintentionally yet constantly revealing bits of information he probably shouldn't be revealing, let alone take steps towards figuring out how he can be 100% in the band or 100% out. They should be de facto leaders, principle music writers and spokespeople of the band, but they are not. If Todd leaves, they are toast. Forget complaining about how the music isn't 100% Queensryche; there might not be any music at all very soon. And that's a shame.

It is tricky to assign blame when a situation literally devolves into abuse, both verbal and physical, like it did with Geoff. No way the victims are to blame for being abused. And bravo for them pulling out of it as well as they did. But codependency, that was in place way before the abuse, is a two-way street.

[EPICVIEW]

Looking at where they are at right now, it's very easy to see what went wrong between them.

To put it politely, Geoff is not a very pleasant person. If he were a singer/songwriter, just him and his guitar, that would be alright, but in order to source new material to tour on, he has to work with other people. He got one taste of acclaim and power in the recent year or two - people judging his projects less harshly, praising his voice in Avantasia, Frontiers set him up with a songwriter for a project that is right in his wheelhouse, and what does he do? Immediately starts lashing out, taking shots and burning bridges. I don't know who will be willing to work with him after this - any label larger than Frontiers certainly isn't gonna give him project proposals, they were the last ones.

On the other hand, Wilton and Rockenfield are just so incredibly passive. Scott's situation, and the band's financial situation, is certainly complicated enough for this problem with Scott to arise. But the path they're taking towards solving that problem is literally the most passive one they can take. They won't even log into their Facebook to type out a statement that mitigates the damage from Todd unintentionally yet constantly revealing bits of information he probably shouldn't be revealing, let alone take steps towards figuring out how he can be 100% in the band or 100% out. They should be de facto leaders, principle music writers and spokespeople of the band, but they are not. If Todd leaves, they are toast. Forget complaining about how the music isn't 100% Queensryche; there might not be any music at all very soon. And that's a shame.

It is tricky to assign blame when a situation literally devolves into abuse, both verbal and physical, like it did with Geoff. No way the victims are to blame for being abused. And bravo for them pulling out of it as well as they did. But codependency, that was in place way before the abuse, is a two-way street.

Great post  but there are "no victims " and the band is just as guilty as Geoff and maybe even more so ,Geoff is just the most wild and articulate at the same time, and Geoff is a great guy in reality as most of the true fans know...

[MoraWintersoul]

Geoff is a great guy in reality as most of the true fans know...

It's easy to be nice to a fan (and even then, he hasn't always succeeded in that). The real test of greatness is how decent you can be to someone who isn't in the same space as you to kiss your ass, but to get something done.

[Dublagent66]

  I wish they hung it up about 23 years ago on a good note

Fixed the date for ya.

Just before the release of HITNF.  Sounds about right.

[Setlist Scotty]

Geoff is a great guy in reality as most of the true fans know...

Doesn't matter how many times you make this claim, most fans know that this is the furthest thing from the truth as has already been refuted multiple times in this thread. So do everyone a favor and stop acting like this:

[EPICVIEW]

Geoff is a great guy in reality as most of the true fans know...

It's easy to be nice to a fan (and even then, he hasn't always succeeded in that). The real test of greatness is how decent you can be to someone who isn't in the same space as you to kiss your ass, but to get something done.

I wont get into detaisl but the reailty is Geoff is one of the nicer rockstars and Ive witnessed him be very kind, over and over. its a shame so many spread nonsense and hate on him

[EPICVIEW]

Geoff is a great guy in reality as most of the true fans know...

Doesn't matter how many times you make this claim, most fans know that this is the furthest thing from the truth as has already been refuted multiple times in this thread. So do everyone a favor and stop acting like this:

sorry  ... its you who is actually wrong on this and I KNOW the long times fans all know Geoff is a great guy. a small group that have had issues is far from the majority.  this "thread" proves nothing ,

[bosk1]

Geoff is a great guy in reality as most of the true fans know...

Doesn't matter how many times you make this claim, most fans know that this is the furthest thing from the truth as has already been refuted multiple times in this thread. So do everyone a favor and stop acting like this:

Exactly this.  EPICVIEW, you have stated your opinion.  And you have done so repeatedly now, without adding anything new.  Your ignoring of facts and repeating the same thing over and over again is simply trolling at this point, which you have been warned about in the past.  Knock it off.

[Architeuthis]

So aside from all the drama from the previous 100 or more posts, lol! 
 I just bought tickets to see Queensryche Sept 7.  Has anybody seen them on this tour or planning to catch a show.  I really like their new album and I'm willing to give them a chance live. Tickets were only $30.00 each so I'm sure it will be worth it.
 I know, no Geoff or Scott but I'm ok with that and I like Wilton.

[TAC]

They're also playing a set with a lot of Todd Era songs. Finally.

[Architeuthis]

They're also playing a set with a lot of Todd Era songs. Finally.

Nice, that's what I was hoping for. 

[T-ski]

huh.

posted on August 21st....


Eddie Trunk
@EddieTrunk

Just had a long phone chat w/ @queensryche
 drummer & old friend Scott Rockenfield. He’s indeed alive & well & it was great catching up. As soon as he’s ready he will be coming on #TrunkNation to check in & say what he’s up to. Maybe next month. More soon!

[Cruithne]

posted on August 21st....

Just had a long phone chat w/ @queensryche  drummer & old friend Scott Rockenfield. He’s indeed alive & well & it was great catching up. As soon as he’s ready he will be coming on #TrunkNation to check in & say what he’s up to. Maybe next month. More soon!

Still not holding my breath.

[wolfking]

huh.

posted on August 21st....


Eddie Trunk
@EddieTrunk

Just had a long phone chat w/ @queensryche
 drummer & old friend Scott Rockenfield. He’s indeed alive & well & it was great catching up. As soon as he’s ready he will be coming on #TrunkNation to check in & say what he’s up to. Maybe next month. More soon!

Eddie Trunk is a name dropping douchebag.

[Stadler]

"and old friend". Dio's been passed now for nine years, and we're STILL hearing how he was "close friends" with Dio.   You know, for someone who is an "old friend" to so many rock stars, he gets shit information.  I don't believe that he's sitting on all this info, either.   

[ReaperKK]

I dont know what it is about Eddie trunk but he has always seems like a dude who is desperate to gain as much spotlight from his celebrity friends as possible.

[gzarruk]

I dont know what it is about Eddie trunk but he has always seems like a dude who is desperate to gain as much spotlight from his celebrity friends as possible.

Because he has no merit on his own?

[cfmoran13]

I dont know what it is about Eddie trunk but he has always seems like a dude who is desperate to gain as much spotlight from his celebrity friends as possible.

A podcast I listen to (The Classic Metal Show), usually has a segment on, or at the very least a mention of, Eddie Trunk every few weeks.  They have a bumper where they play "I, Me, Mine" from The Beatles with drops of Eddie saying "I", "me" and "my" to the song.  Hilarious!  I listen to ET.  As a North Jersey kid born and bred, I've been listening to him for over 30 years.  Hell, I occasionally see him in the supermarket before Sunday Giants kick-off.  But, I have to admit that I'm definitely less tolerant of his name dropping since TCMS brought it to the forefront.  How many times do we need to hear about him being responsible for the reunion of Twisted Sister or his part in the creation of The Winery Dogs.  And, his constant b*tching about people playing to tracks.  Enough already!

[Stadler]

His Ace/Peter sycophancy is just as big a problem, IMO.

(And don't forget! He signed Ace Frehley to Megaforce Records!  What an eye for talent!)

[RodrigoAltaf]

Eddie Trunk is a great guy in reality as most of the true fans know...

[Mladen]

He's not a bad interviewer, though. 

[Mindflux]

Could this stuff about Eddie Trunk be more relevant?

[TAC]

Could this stuff about Eddie Trunk be more relevant?

I assume this is who he is talking about..

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/neal-casal-guitarist-who-worked-with-willie-nelson-shooter-jennings-dead-at-50/ar-AAGoXtf?li=BBnbfcL

[cfmoran13]

He's not a bad interviewer, though. 

Agreed.

[goo-goo]

He's not a bad interviewer, though. 

Agreed.

The annoying thing about Trunk is he doesn’t stop talking about himself in the interviews. Doesn’t let the interview flow naturally and its very disruptive. Sometime its borderline disrespectful.

[cfmoran13]

He's not a bad interviewer, though. 

Agreed.

The annoying thing about Trunk is he doesn’t stop talking about himself in the interviews. Doesn’t let the interview flow naturally and its very disruptive. Sometime its borderline disrespectful.

Absolutely.  He cuts off guests/callers quite frequently.  There have been plenty of times where guests start talking about something and he cuts them off if they're not discussing his specific talking point, no matter how interesting their subject might be.

[Architeuthis]

Saw Queensryche last night at Clearwater casino near Seattle.  This was an easy one for me since I didn't have to catch a ferry boat to Seattle.
 They put on an amazing show, with great sound and good lighting/screen graphics.  I was really impressed with Todd's vocals, he was killing it the whole night!  Wilton was in top form on guitar and all the back-up vocal harmonies were spot on.
It was a really fun/ laid back show with a positive vibe yet high energy at the same time. They also played a lot of songs off of their new album that translated really well. They also pulled some gems out such as Take Hold of the Flame, and Queen of the Ryche, and a couple songs from Operation Mindcrime and Empire.
I would highly recommend seeing them if they come to your area. Queensryche is alive and well even though they are playing smaller venues.   

[Dittomist]

Agreed! I saw them back in March and was really impressed. I've seen Queensryche so many times, but this one stood out because they wisely incorporated more recent material into the set. And I know it's only September, but to me The Verdict is the best album of the year so far

[Stadler]

He's not a bad interviewer, though. 

Agreed.

Sorry to derail again, but Trunk is not bad, but he's not really good either.  For all he spouts about "honesty" and how "honest" he is, and the way he keeps it "honest", his "honest" is just "his opinion", which almost never really contradicts who he's talking with.  There's nothing "honest" about it.  So when he goes into interviews, sure, with some of his buddies he'll ask the tough(er) question, but if it's not... he's kissing ass just like everyone else.  I'm not sure he coaxed anything revelatory out of Axl, and he can't get interviews someone at his (alleged) level should be able to (Ozzy, Kiss, Van Halen).

Why I talked about the "honest", is because HE'LL tell you he can't get Ozzy, Kiss, and EVH because he's "friends" with Dio, Ace/Peter and Sammy and that he's just been too "honest" about those relationships.  "Honest" has been pimping Dio since he died, hanging out and listening to Ace and Peter's whining about "replacements" and karoake and not being cut into the pie, and giving a platform for Sammy to claim "I'd do a reunion if Ed and Alex wanted to, but I called them for their birthday and they never called back!" while he goes on to trash Al and Ed.   

[Ayeegit]

That and other tensions really got to Chris and Chris left. I blogged about this last year and did my best to cover the Chris departure(s) from a speculative point of view --  http://anybodylistening.net/whychrisdegarmoleft.html. That may give some of you that aren't really familiar with the history some insight to what may have happened.

Hey Samsara - I arrived at this party a bit late, and tried today to check out your blog post about DeGarmo, but I'm getting a 404 error.  Has the Anybodylistening site been put out to pasture, or is something temporarily wrong?

[Mladen]

Samsara also did an amazing Queensryche discography thread two years ago and described the situation very well here:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50337.msg2341674#msg2341674

[goo-goo]

QR Touring News for 2020

January 17 - Ft Lauderdale, FL - Culture Room
January 18 - St Petersburg, FL - Jannus Live
January 19 - Jacksonville, FL - Florida Theatre
January 23 - Houston, TX – House of Blues
January 24 - San Antonio, TX – Aztec Theater
January 25 - Dallas, TX - House of Blues
January 28 - Phoenix, AZ - Marquee
January 29 - San Diego, CA - Music Box
January 30 - Anaheim, CA - House of Blues
January 31 - San Francisco, CA - Slims
February 4 - Portland, OR - Crystal Ballroom
February 5 - Seattle, WA - Neptune
February 7 - Denver, CO - Ogden
February 8 - Kansas City, MO - Knuckleheads*
February 9 - St Louis, MO - Delmar*
February 12 - Grand Rapids, MI - 20 Monroe
February 13 - Detroit, MI - St Andrew's Hall*
February 14 - Pittsburgh, PA - Roxian Theatre
February 15 - Sayerville, NJ - Starland Ballroom
February 16 - Boston, MA - Big Night
February 19 - Glensdale, PA Keswick Theatre
February 20 - Baltimore, MD Baltimore Sound Stage*
February 21 - North Myrtle Beach, SC - House of Blues
February 22 - Charlotte, NC - The Underground*
February 26 - Atlanta, GA - Buckhead Theater*
February 27 - Orlando. FL - Plaza Live

[Lethean]

What is the * for?