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« Reply #3220 on: October 25, 2018, 10:04:53 AM »
@Samsara I don’t disagree with some of that. The Toddryche albums are not really an evolution of the band in the way they did in the classic years. It’s more of a rehash of their classic sound with some modern influences. I would never argue these new albums are on the same level as a Rage, Mindcrime, Empire or Promised Land. They are not. There are a few songs sprinkled across both releases that wouldn’t stick out horribly on those early records but they are not consistently at that level and not really breaking new ground, just trying to recapture the glory days.

HITNF has it’s moments but is not a good album imo, same for Q2K, I’m a big fan of Right Side Of My Mind though. They  just began to sound like a run of the mill band to me by Q2K, not the unique special band I loved. What followed was largely terrible, seem to remember liking a bit of Tribe but not the DeGarmo penned tunes strangely as I was super excited when he came back. Can’t find any redeeming features on the others. The last two albums were a momentous shift in quality for me and I really enjoy them for what they are. Not classic by any means but still some new QR that I can enjoy listening to with a sound that harks back to the classic era.

The thought of going back to Tate and those later albums would not fill me with optimism. A full reunion with all 5 members might get me a little excited but not going back to what they were before Todd.

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« Reply #3221 on: October 25, 2018, 10:15:25 AM »
Sign of the Times got decent play over here as well, and You was pretty big.  I also remember hearing Reach on radio, but only once or twice.  But yeah...what could have been.
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« Reply #3222 on: October 25, 2018, 10:38:38 AM »

The thought of going back to Tate and those later albums would not fill me with optimism. A full reunion with all 5 members might get me a little excited but not going back to what they were before Todd.

I completely understand this line of thought. Trust me, if I was a big fan of modern QR still, I'd feel the exact same way as you. I get it. I think the reason why I have been saying a lot that QR would reunite the way they were before Todd is not because I think it is what the fans want. I don't think that at all. I think for the most part, fans dig what Todd has brought to the band. I think a reunion with Tate would be strictly business if that's what THE PROMOTERS want. If there is one thing I have noticed post-Chris, is that the band does what the band does for one reason, and one reason only - most money, for least work. Period. And I get that, from a business standpoint.

However, if you accept that as how it works, then the writing is on the wall for Toddryche. IF (and I am not friends with a promoter who works with them, so I can't confirm) promoters are willing to give them a decent pay day to reunite with Tate (without Chris) and do some nostalgia thing for Empire, which would then result in Tate, Rockenfield, Wilton, and Jackson making more money than what they do now, they WILL do it if the money is there and significantly more than they make now in guarantees. In a heartbeat. Every decision they ever made was generally based on this post-Chris. It's just how they do things.

But I think the point has been made, that they could have had their cake and eaten too had they put in more work early on in this rebirth in terms of not catering to the hairband pay days with fly-in gigs backing Vince Neil and Great White, and instead took the harder road of going out and slugging it out as metal headliners in clubs on the strength of their new material. Had they done that, they might be in a better position to decide what to do, even if it meant taking less money to do what want to do, as opposed to caving and doing what they think they have to do. Because they took the easier road in 2012-2014, and Scott is no longer in the band (which I think, while not confirmed, is pretty obvious), they are sorta stuck and have to do what they have to do to make ends meet.

Short-sighted thinking. Rinse-repeat.  :-[

Sign of the Times got decent play over here as well, and You was pretty big.  I also remember hearing Reach on radio, but only once or twice.  But yeah...what could have been.

That's cool about Reach. I never heard that one. Just Sign of the Times and You. The Voice Inside and spOOL were also on deck as promotional singles. I think Reach would have been a great single as well.
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« Reply #3223 on: October 25, 2018, 12:45:42 PM »
From a ticket selling standpoint I get the argument that promoters may be willing to take more of a chance on them with Tate, at least in the short term. Would not be optimistic about any new music they would come out with though.

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« Reply #3224 on: October 25, 2018, 01:00:17 PM »
From a ticket selling standpoint I get the argument that promoters may be willing to take more of a chance on them with Tate, at least in the short term. Would not be optimistic about any new music they would come out with though.

Well, they'd be sacrificing long term longevity for short-term monetary gain.  Which is completely in line with the band's attitude over the last handful of years.

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Re: Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album
« Reply #3225 on: October 25, 2018, 01:18:35 PM »
Maybe the next album title will be:  "It may be dumb, but it keeps the lights on."
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« Reply #3226 on: October 25, 2018, 01:39:29 PM »
Maybe the next casino tour with Great White will be:  "It may be dumb, but it keeps the lights on."

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« Reply #3227 on: October 25, 2018, 01:51:28 PM »
Danged auto-correct.  :rant:
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Re: Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album
« Reply #3228 on: October 26, 2018, 05:47:07 PM »
Heard there may be a passive comment early next week that will clarify who makes up Queensryche these days.

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Re: Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album
« Reply #3229 on: October 29, 2018, 09:31:49 AM »
Friend of mine just got an email from a venue saying Queensryche and Fates Warning are touring (the particular date was in March). Assuming the announcement I mentioned Friday is the press release announcing a tour. If so -- COOL. I'll be skipping QR, but FATES!  :metal :metal :metal
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« Reply #3230 on: October 29, 2018, 09:37:41 AM »
Wow!  I hope it's a tour and not just a date or three.
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Re: Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album
« Reply #3231 on: October 29, 2018, 09:46:49 AM »
Wow!  I hope it's a tour and not just a date or three.

A handful wouldn't make sense. QR will have its new album out, and I doubt Fates would do a couple of one-off dates as a support act in a club or a casino (I don't think Fates has ever played a casino). My guess is, QR headline tour of a month or two. Fingers crossed there is a date by us.

Edit -- looks like QR's new album is named THE VERDICT.

Tour dates are popping up - https://www.queensrycheofficial.com/tour-dates/

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« Reply #3232 on: October 29, 2018, 09:53:52 AM »
Their official forum posted a press release.  I'll give them some credit for going out and touring with a contemporary band, though Fates is a little predictable, though they haven't toured together for 15 years. 


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QUEENSRźCHE ANNOUNCE NEW ALBUM THE VERDICT - BAND ANNOUNCES SPRING HEADLINE U.S. TOUR


*Bellevue, Washington – October 29, 2018 – Rock icons Queensr˙che have just announced their newest album The Verdict out March 1st via Century Media Records. The band’s forthcoming release was produced, mixed, and mastered by Zeuss (Rob Zombie, Iced Earth, Hatebreed) at Uberbeatz in Lynwood, WA, Planet-Z in Wilbraham, MA and Watershed Studio in Seattle, WA. Pre-orders and formats will be announced soon. In the meantime, the band has a Pledge pre-order campaign currently running HERE.


"I'm extremely proud of what we were able to accomplish on this record,” states Queensr˙che vocalist Todd La Torre about The Verdict. “The relentless dedication and hard work of everyone involved has been very rewarding. I am excited and looking forward to it no longer just belonging to us, but belonging to the world. We hope you all enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed making it!"


Michael “Whip” Wilton (guitar) adds, “The Verdict is the most metal and the most progressive record we have made in a long time. I couldn't possibly be more excited for everyone to hear this."


To support The Verdict, Queensr˙che have also announced their spring U.S. headline tour today with special guests Fates Warning. The Cringe will be joining both bands on select dates. The tour will kick off on March 2nd in Orlando, making stops in major markets such as New York, Atlanta, Chicago, and Los Angeles, and will wrap on April 3rd in Seattle. The band recently finished a run supporting SCORPIONS this past September. For more information on upcoming tour dates and to purchase tickets, visit the

band’s website HERE.


The Verdict follows the bands most recent release, Condition Hüman, received rave reviews from outlets such as Loudwire, KNAC, About.com, and more. The 2014 release debuted on Billboard’s Top Rock Albums chart at #5 with over 14,000 units sold first week and 100,000 albums sold globally to date.



Queensr˙che have secured a triumphant legacy as one of hard rock’s most respected and celebrated acts in the industry, selling over 30 million albums around the world across in the span of their 30-plus year career. Queensr˙che’s stone cold classic debut full-length, The Warning, and the badass monster sophomore release, Rage for Order, reignited the flames of heavy, progressive, melodic hard rock and metal. With the release of the band’s third album, Operation: Mindcrime, catapulted the band into mainstream success, single-handedly redefining the concept album and charged into the Top 40. A precision collection of near-perfect songs pushed landmark masterpiece Empire to triple platinum.


“Silent Lucidity”, off of the fourth LP, earned the band their second and third Grammy nominations, plus five nominations at the MTV Video Music Awards, where Queensr˙che picked up the Viewer’s Choice Award. Following the massive success of Empire, the band released, Promised Land, which entered the charts at #3 and became another platinum selling record. Adding to their successes, Queensryche have dominated Rock Radio with hits like “Jet City Woman”, “Another Rainy Night (Without You)”, “Real World”, “I AM I”, “Bridge”, and “Sign of the Times”.

Now, with the band’s 16th full-length album on the way, Queensr˙che is looking to continue to dominate the heavy metal scene.


QUEENSRźCHE HEADLINE TOUR DATES :
March 2 - Orlando, FL - The Plaza Live

March 3 - Ft. Lauderdale, FL - Culture Room

March 5 - Atlanta, GA - Masquerade

March 7 - Baltimore - Sound Stage*

March 8 - Uncasville, CT - Mohegan Sun^

March 9 - New York, NY - Irving Plaza*

March 10 - Worcester, MA – Palladium*

March 12 - Cincinnati, OH - Bogarts

March 13 - Detroit, MI - Diesel

March 14 - Chicago, IL - Concord

March 15 - Milwaukee, WI - The Rave

March 16 - Medina, MN - Medina Entertainment Center

March 17 - Davenport, IA - Rhythm City Casino Resort^

March 20 - Dallas, TX - House of Blues

March 21 - Houston, TX - House of Blues

March 22 - San Antonio, TX - Aztec

March 23 - Albuquerque, NM - El Rey

March 26 - Tempe, AZ - The Marquee

March 27 - San Diego - Observatory

March 28 - Los Angeles, CA- Fonda

March 29 - San Francisco, CA - Slim's

March 30 - Sacramento, CA - Ace of Spades

April 2 - Portland, OR - Crystal Ballroom

April 3 - Seattle, WA – Neptune

*w/ support from The Cringe

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Re: Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album
« Reply #3233 on: October 29, 2018, 09:55:06 AM »
I see a date that could work.

EDIT:  I see a better date!  :D
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« Reply #3234 on: October 29, 2018, 09:59:30 AM »
I see a date that could work.

EDIT:  I see a better date!  :D

I see two.

p.s. looks like who Queensryche is, was left off the final release. ;)
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« Reply #3235 on: October 29, 2018, 10:00:02 AM »
Yes, I noticed that as well.
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« Reply #3236 on: October 29, 2018, 10:04:58 AM »
Wasn't Condition Human released in 2016? Release says 2014. They really need to proofread.  :lol
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« Reply #3237 on: October 29, 2018, 10:09:55 AM »
Oh yea! I'll be at the San Antonio show.

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« Reply #3238 on: October 29, 2018, 10:14:34 AM »
Holy fuck yes El Rey. Not gonna miss seeing Fates Warning at all.
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« Reply #3239 on: October 29, 2018, 10:19:11 AM »
I'll give them some credit for going out and touring with a contemporary band...
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Fates Warning is contemporary? I never would have guessed.

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« Reply #3240 on: October 29, 2018, 10:24:44 AM »

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Michael “Whip” Wilton (guitar) adds, “The Verdict is the most metal and the most progressive record we have made in a long time. I couldn't possibly be more excited for everyone to hear this."

I know it is just the hype machine at work, but that sounds cool, regardless.  :lol

And if the image I posted earlier is close to the cover art, it reminds me of a Testament cover a bit...
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« Reply #3241 on: October 29, 2018, 10:29:37 AM »

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Michael “Whip” Wilton (guitar) adds, “The Verdict is the most metal and the most progressive record we have made in a long time. I couldn't possibly be more excited for everyone to hear this."

I know it is just the hype machine at work, but that sounds cool, regardless.  :lol

And if the image I posted earlier is close to the cover art, it reminds me of a Testament cover a bit...

It is the cover art.  Looks so much better than the Condition Human cover, which was very amateurish (and I know Todd was throwing his friend a bone with that cover, but the end product was not good).  I like how the tri-ryche was adapted into a scale here, with the top a little off balance.  Can't go wrong with anything that looks like this.  I haven't heard the samples, but I like the cover and Wilton's comment, even if it's standard album-promo hype.

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« Reply #3242 on: October 29, 2018, 10:36:29 AM »
Oh man do those tour dates look crammed :omg:
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« Reply #3243 on: October 29, 2018, 10:45:44 AM »
Oh man do those tour dates look crammed :omg:
Awaiting European dates :corn

About normal, honestly. Plus, to make ends meet on a U.S. tour, they are sorta forced to. I may not be a big supporter of this lineup of QR, but gotta admit, the album cover and the tour look great. Fates Warning has become my favorite (along with Alter Bridge) these days, so I will be at at least two of these shows.
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« Reply #3244 on: October 29, 2018, 10:51:57 AM »
Sucks that we have to wait even longer for the album to drop...I was thinking January but March?

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« Reply #3245 on: October 29, 2018, 10:52:18 AM »
Wow.  Yeah, I just noticed that.  That's going to be hard on both singers.  I get having to be as efficient as possible, but man!  Starting on the third date, there is a 4-in-a-row, 1 day break from MA to OH to start a 6-in-a-row.  A couple of days off, and then a 4-in-a-row, 2 day break, and 5-in-a-row.
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« Reply #3246 on: October 29, 2018, 10:58:38 AM »
Wow.  Yeah, I just noticed that.  That's going to be hard on both singers.  I get having to be as efficient as possible, but man!  Starting on the third date, there is a 4-in-a-row, 1 day break from MA to OH to start a 6-in-a-row.  A couple of days off, and then a 4-in-a-row, 2 day break, and 5-in-a-row.

Yeah, not looking promising for vocals from either artist. That's rough.
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« Reply #3247 on: October 29, 2018, 11:00:04 AM »
Wow.  Yeah, I just noticed that.  That's going to be hard on both singers.  I get having to be as efficient as possible, but man!  Starting on the third date, there is a 4-in-a-row, 1 day break from MA to OH to start a 6-in-a-row.  A couple of days off, and then a 4-in-a-row, 2 day break, and 5-in-a-row.

Damn we got the end of a 4-day, I hope both singers don't sound bad. I'm sure they won't.
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« Reply #3248 on: October 29, 2018, 11:06:44 AM »
Days off on tour equal losing money.  Expenses (transportation, fuel, food, hotels) and no income from playing a show or selling merch. 

I'm hoping the band proves me wrong - I've been very critical of them since Condition Human came out and they failed to support the album well.  I doubt they're going to string together any tours, but at least they're going out with a band in their genre and hopefully they play a good portion of the new album, plus a few songs from the last two records as well.  The CH headlining tours featured 3-4 songs from Todd's two albums.  No reason to not play at least 7 of his era's songs.

Sadly, my concert-going hiatus (i.e. two young kids') will keep me from attending this tour, but it's good to see them ramping up the promotion for the new album.

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« Reply #3249 on: October 29, 2018, 11:07:39 AM »
Mostly for FW:  I may have to jump on a plane for this (SFO, SMF or ABQ).  Beats trying to drag my ass up to Hollywood on a Thursday night.
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« Reply #3250 on: October 29, 2018, 11:13:24 AM »
Mostly for FW:  I may have to jump on a plane for this (SFO, SMF or ABQ).  Beats trying to drag my ass up to Hollywood on a Thursday night.

P -- come up for San Fran. We'll hang. I'll even stay for QR (wasn't planning to) if you do and take in the set with ya. PM me if you decide to.
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« Reply #3251 on: October 29, 2018, 11:14:49 AM »
Damn... nothing anywhere close to where I'll be living come March.  That is a crazy schedule though = 24 dates in 32 days!!!!
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« Reply #3252 on: October 29, 2018, 11:16:24 AM »
Mostly for FW:  I may have to jump on a plane for this (SFO, SMF or ABQ).  Beats trying to drag my ass up to Hollywood on a Thursday night.

P -- come up for San Fran. We'll hang. I'll even stay for QR (wasn't planning to) if you do and take in the set with ya. PM me if you decide to.

Oh, but you won't stay for QR if *I* decide to go?  I see how it is.
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« Reply #3253 on: October 29, 2018, 11:18:45 AM »
Mostly for FW:  I may have to jump on a plane for this (SFO, SMF or ABQ).  Beats trying to drag my ass up to Hollywood on a Thursday night.

P -- come up for San Fran. We'll hang. I'll even stay for QR (wasn't planning to) if you do and take in the set with ya. PM me if you decide to.

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Re: Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album
« Reply #3254 on: October 29, 2018, 11:20:48 AM »
Mostly for FW:  I may have to jump on a plane for this (SFO, SMF or ABQ).  Beats trying to drag my ass up to Hollywood on a Thursday night.

Same here. I'm mostly in for Fates Warning. They probably are my favorite band displacing DT a few years ago.  :metal