Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album

[Lowdz]

I also don't mind two tracks sounding similar when those two tracks are THAT good.  Honestly, if this album sucked out loud from track 5 onward, tracks 1-4 alone would STILL make this the best Queensryche album in ages.

It wouldn't have been as noticeable if they had been separated, but to follow one another like that certainly made a bit of a negative impression. The only track I don't love is the one that sounds like a track Tateryche would do (selfish lives).

[bosk1]

I also don't mind two tracks sounding similar when those two tracks are THAT good.  Honestly, if this album sucked out loud from track 5 onward, tracks 1-4 alone would STILL make this the best Queensryche album in ages.

It wouldn't have been as noticeable if they had been separated, but to follow one another like that certainly made a bit of a negative impression. The only track I don't love is the one that sounds like a track Tateryche would do (selfish lives).

I wasn't crazy about that one at first either.  But in the flow of the album, it works, and I like it a lot now. 

[wolfking]

Selfish Lives is great IMO.  The only song I think is average is Just Us.  It's still decent, but the rest are at a much higher tier.

[jjrock88]

Selfish Lives is great IMO.  The only song I think is average is Just Us.  It's still decent, but the rest are at a much higher tier.

Selfish Lives and Just Us were the two songs that I felt were slightly average when I first listened to the album.  I've since grown to enjoy them both a lot.  Not a weak track on this album.

[jammindude]

Just Us may have the worst intro of any QR song in history (not counting the stuff I haven't heard. i.e...most of Dedicated to Chaos and FU).   But it totally redeems itself.   It's like if you tacked a Loverboy intro onto a halfway decent Dream Theater ballad. 

[jjrock88]

Just Us may have the worst intro of any QR song in history (not counting the stuff I haven't heard. i.e...most of Dedicated to Chaos and FU).   But it totally redeems itself.   It's like if you tacked a Loverboy intro onto a halfway decent Dream Theater ballad.

I like the Loverboy/Dream Theater analogy!!

[wolfking]

Yeah, the whole first minute or so just sticks out and not in a good way.

Was pumping this album again in the car this weekend and I'm bloody loving it!

[Nothingface]

I play it so often in my car that I'm positive that everyone I chauffeur around hates me AND Queensr˙che.

It's not even a year after and I'm already looking forward to a follow-up. Maybe they'll hit us with a dank political concept album reminiscent of Operation: Mindcrime (because Tater ain't getting the job done with his new band).

[Kwyjibo]

Just Us may have the worst intro of any QR song in history (not counting the stuff I haven't heard. i.e...most of Dedicated to Chaos and FU).   But it totally redeems itself.   It's like if you tacked a Loverboy intro onto a halfway decent Dream Theater ballad.

Totally this. I've come to really like the song but that intro still sucks big time.

[wolfking]

When that song started the very first time I listened to the album, I actually said out loud, "what the fuck is this?" 

[jjrock88]

When that song started the very first time I listened to the album, I actually said out loud, "what the fuck is this?" 

I'm pretty sure I said the same thing when I heard "The Stranger"

[kirksnosehair]

Add me to that list too 


Love the album, though.  It's at least a 4, maybe a 4.5 

[jjrock88]

yeah I keep gravitating to CH; haven't even remotely tired of it yet.

[wolfking]

When that song started the very first time I listened to the album, I actually said out loud, "what the fuck is this?" 

I'm pretty sure I said the same thing when I heard "The Stranger"

 

yeah I keep gravitating to CH; haven't even remotely tired of it yet.

Yeah, it has the appeal to make you want to keep coming back to it.

[Deathless]

I don't know if anyone will be catching them on tour, but this was the setlist from their opening show last night. They did start late due to some technical issues though:

Guardian
Operation Mindcrime
Best I can
Damaged
The killing words
The Mission
In this light
Empire.
Anybody listening
Bulletproof
Queen of the Reich
jet city woman
Take hold of the flame
---encore---
Screaming in Digital
Eyes of a Stranger

[jammindude]

Cool that they're starting to acknowledge PL now!

[Lowdz]

Anybody Listening? Excellent, one of their best songs. That's a great setlist. The old one was very stale.

[Kwyjibo]

Not bad at all, but like the last tour more nostalgia than new songs.

[jingle.boy]

Not bad at all, but like the last tour more nostalgia than new songs.

Exactly!  They've been touring for 3+ years with the same era for their material, and a lot of the same exact songs - Empire, Jet City Woman, Eyes of A Stranger, Queen of the Reich, Take Hold of the Flame, .  Time to shit or get off the pot - do more stuff from the current albums.

This is a better setlist, but only a minor step in the right direction.

[wolfking]

That's a really good setlist but only 3 Todd songs.  Should be at least 6, come one guys, the new stuff is the bomb, be proud and play it.

[King Postwhore]

Still a cool setlist.  Almost tempted to take the wife to see them.

[bosk1]

This is the tour where they are opening for Scorpions, correct?  If so, while I sympathize with the argument that they should be playing more of the new album, I get why they aren't.  #1, it isn't their crowd; it is the headliner's crowd.  That means the majority of people there aren't hardcore Queensryche fans.  Even if new material is excellent (which it is), a lot of them are likely to get bored hearing a bunch of songs they don't know.  I hate to say it, but better to play the nostalgia card and play what people want to hear, with a few new tunes sprinkled in.  #2, it is a shorter set, so harder to fit a lot of new songs in.  3 out of 15 is 1/5 of the set.  As an opener, that is actually probably about right.  I would expect 5-6 in a headlining set, but 3-4 sounds about right as an opener.

[King Postwhore]

No bosk1.  I saw them backing up the Scorps.  Now they are headlining.

[bosk1]

Okay, cancel my last then.  Yeah, they should be playing more.  (and more songs in general--15 songs is too short)

[jjrock88]

That's a really good setlist but only 3 Todd songs.  Should be at least 6, come one guys, the new stuff is the bomb, be proud and play it.

[Mladen]

Not too bad, I'd watch this set.

[jingle.boy]

Okay, cancel my last then.  Yeah, they should be playing more.  (and more songs in general--15 songs is too short)

When they opened for Scrops, I think they only had 7 or 8 songs, and only did Guardian from the new album.  Everything else was Empire and earlier - so you're bang on with the other post.

Like I said, they've been touring for almost 3 years now (Todd joined at the end of Feb/12, iirc).  I'd think that they've restored the name enough now that they can move on from playing the 80s era stuff primarily.  At least 1/2 and 1/2 now that they've got 2 solid albums, and 20 songs to pull from.  Yeah... 15 songs only?  Was it only a 90 minute set?

[kirksnosehair]

So, anyway, I just came back here to say that I had a change of heart about the self titled release and have really been enjoying it quite a bit over the last few weeks.


I'm not entirely sure why it never got my attention before, but I'm glad I finally clicked with it.

[wolfking]

I'm not entirely sure why it never got my attention before, but I'm glad I finally clicked with it.

It happens.  Happened with Endgame for me not long ago.

[T-ski]

new video for "Eye9"....

https://youtu.be/Wiqf6V5iFpY

[chaossystem]

Okay, cancel my last then.  Yeah, they should be playing more.  (and more songs in general--15 songs is too short)

I want to begin by saying that I think Queensryche is going through a major transition, and that, to me, their current sound is something of a hybrid of the original band that is maybe becoming something else, but not entirely a new or different band. I thought that the last few QR albums with or WITHOUT Tate were somewhat mediocre, but every one of them had at least five songs that I liked. I think Condition Human is a fine "sophomore" effort by a band that, like I said seems to be on it's way to BECOMING something else, but not entirely different from the "original" queensryche sound. I thought this one was a BIG improvement over the 2013 album, so who knows? Maybe the next one will REALLY be something special!

Anyway, Bosk, you said you wanted a longer show with more songs, so I put together a two-hour show (is that long enough for you?) that has all of the songs that I like from the last two albums, seven from CH (8 if you count The Aftermath) and five from the 2013 album, along with a mix of "classics" and songs that haven't been heard for a long time, or have maybe NEVER been played live. I'm not really all that picky about the ORDER that the songs would go in, but I do like my choices for first two and last three songs.

1) Guardian
2) Vindication (I think this one would kick ass live!)
3) Surgical Strike (from RfO)
4) Eye9
5) Nightrider (from the '83 EP. I don't think they've EVER played this song live-or at least not since 1984-85)
6) Where Dreams Go to Die
7) Disconnected (One of my favorite Promised Land tracks)
8) Selfish Lives
9) Another Rainy Night (Without You)
10) Don't Look Back
11) Deliverance (from The Warning)
12) The Right Side of My Mind (just to throw in something different)
13) I Will Remember ( something a little more "ballady" from RfO)
14) Toxic Remedy
15) The Needle Lies (for the most part I would stay away from MindCrime because of Tate's band, etc., but I think this one is a good exception to that rule...)
17) Signs Say Go/
18) Re-Arrange You (from MindCrime 2)
19) Hellfire
20) The Aftermath
21) Spool (One of my favorites from HitNF)
22) Spore
23) Arrow of Time
24) Burning Man (my favorite from Q2K)
25) Redemption (my favorite 2013 track)
26) Condition Human

Encore:
1) Take Hold of the Flame
2) Walk in the Shadows
3) Empire

[jjrock88]

new video for "Eye9"....

https://youtu.be/Wiqf6V5iFpY

cool video!

[wolfking]

I don't know if that setlist is just a dream set, but there is not way they would play a set anywhere close to that.

[jammindude]

If I'm wishlisting a QR set...

1. 9:28 AM - I Am I
2. Speak
3. The Whisper
4. Spore
5. Hellfire
6. Neue Regel
7. Damaged
8. Revolution Calling
9. Operation Mindcrime
10. The Mission
11. Suite Sister Mary
12. A World Without
13. Guardian
14. Eye 9
15. NM 156
16. Screaming in Digital
17. The Right Side of My Mind
18. The Aftermath/Condition Human

Encore

Queen of the Reich
Empire
Take Hold of the Flame


EDIT:  I suppose in some ways, this is still a bit "safe"...there's only 6 new songs.   But it seems both somewhat realistic and still awesome.   

[wolfking]

Wish sets IMO should still be somewhat realistic.

jammindude, that's a fucking cool set.