I used to like Staind, but then they took the Creed route and got softer and softer. I still have the first 3 albums, although Tormented is pretty lame. I only have it because it's kinda rare I think. I used to own everything up to V, but I lost interest by that point. It's great when bands and artists mature, but in this case, Staind were better when Aaron Lewis was bitchin' and moanin' all the time.