Coheed and Cambria v. Second Stage

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

I've given Shoulders 7 or 8 listens now, and I love it! Gonna have to try real hard not to overplay it before the album drops. I've seen a lot of complaints over on reddit about the production. Honestly, I'm glad I don't usually notice these things unless they are pointed out. It's mainly the drums and how the snare is barely audible, and the bass drums is too loud. Also, apparently Travis is barely audible as well. Anyway,I still love it.

While we've got a bit of back and forth going in this thread, thought I'd chuck in my top 25 song rankings:

1. The End Complete IV: The Road and the Damned
2. Here We Are Juggernaut
3. No World For Tomorrow
4. The Light & The Glass
5. The Suffering
6. In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
7. The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
8. Feathers
9. Welcome Home
10. Crossing the Frame
11. Three Evils (Embodied in Love and Shadow)
12. Mother Superior
13. The Willing Well IV: The Final Cut
14. Gravity's Union
15. Ten Speed (of God's Blood & Burial)
16. The Running Free
17. Time Consumer
18. A Favour House Atlantic
19. Here to Mars
20. 2113
21. Wake Up
22. The Willing Well III: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
23. Blood Red Summer
24. Dark Side of Me
25. Old Flames

Maybe it's just because my list would look so different, but this list just seems super bizarre to me. Tastes!

[425]

I've given Shoulders 7 or 8 listens now, and I love it! Gonna have to try real hard not to overplay it before the album drops. I've seen a lot of complaints over on reddit about the production. Honestly, I'm glad I don't usually notice these things unless they are pointed out. It's mainly the drums and how the snare is barely audible, and the bass drums is too loud. Also, apparently Travis is barely audible as well. Anyway,I still love it.

While we've got a bit of back and forth going in this thread, thought I'd chuck in my top 25 song rankings:

1. The End Complete IV: The Road and the Damned
2. Here We Are Juggernaut
3. No World For Tomorrow
4. The Light & The Glass
5. The Suffering
6. In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
7. The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
8. Feathers
9. Welcome Home
10. Crossing the Frame
11. Three Evils (Embodied in Love and Shadow)
12. Mother Superior
13. The Willing Well IV: The Final Cut
14. Gravity's Union
15. Ten Speed (of God's Blood & Burial)
16. The Running Free
17. Time Consumer
18. A Favour House Atlantic
19. Here to Mars
20. 2113
21. Wake Up
22. The Willing Well III: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
23. Blood Red Summer
24. Dark Side of Me
25. Old Flames

I've never made a list for Coheed, but I think there would be some interesting similarities and differences between ours.

I think The End Complete IV is a really interesting choice for #1. I really like it, but I never thought about it as a potential candidate for the top spot. It's probably higher in my own list now that you've just made me think about just how good it is.

I would choose a lot of the same songs from Good Apollo 2 as you, but (outside of the Willing Wells) a different set from Good Apollo 1. I think maybe my taste on that album is weird. I also don't love the IKSoSE:3 epics as much as some of the shorter songs on that album, but since it's my favorite Coheed album, it'll be well-represented.

I'll take a shot at a list, probably without being too specific in order within a few subgroups.

Top 10:
Gravity's Union (this is what I'm inclined to call my favorite Coheed song, although I think it might ultimately be The Willing Well I or III)
The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
The Willing Well I: Fuel for the Feeding End
In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
The Willing Well II: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
The End Complete IV: The Road and the Damned
Mother Superior
Feathers
Cuts Marked in the March of Men

11-20ish:
The Light and the Glass
Backend of Forever
Everything Evil
Key Entity Extraction V: Sentry the Defiant
The Hard Sell
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino the Destitute
Here to Mars
The Dark Sentencer
Colors
The Crowing

21-30ish:
Welcome Home
Time Consumer
A Favor House Atlantic
Wake Up
The Suffering
The Running Free
Number City
Lucky Stars
The Willing Well IV: The Final Cut
2113

[twosuitsluke]

Maybe it's just because my list would look so different, but this list just seems super bizarre to me. Tastes!

I'm well aware that there are a lot of fan favourite Coheed songs that do very little for me (Domino, Everything Evil, Al the Killer). I really didn't overthink this list, just went with my gut/my classic faves/what I'm enjoying currently. I know a lot of my choices might seem strange to some, but yea, tastes.

I've never made a list for Coheed, but I think there would be some interesting similarities and differences between ours.

I think The End Complete IV is a really interesting choice for #1. I really like it, but I never thought about it as a potential candidate for the top spot. It's probably higher in my own list now that you've just made me think about just how good it is.

I would choose a lot of the same songs from Good Apollo 2 as you, but (outside of the Willing Wells) a different set from Good Apollo 1. I think maybe my taste on that album is weird. I also don't love the IKSoSE:3 epics as much as some of the shorter songs on that album, but since it's my favorite Coheed album, it'll be well-represented.

I'll take a shot at a list, probably without being too specific in order within a few subgroups.

Top 10:
Gravity's Union (this is what I'm inclined to call my favorite Coheed song, although I think it might ultimately be The Willing Well I or III)
The Willing Well III: Apollo II: The Telling Truth
The Willing Well I: Fuel for the Feeding End
In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
The Willing Well II: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
The End Complete IV: The Road and the Damned
Mother Superior
Feathers
Cuts Marked in the March of Men

11-20ish:
The Light and the Glass
Backend of Forever
Everything Evil
Key Entity Extraction V: Sentry the Defiant
The Hard Sell
Key Entity Extraction I: Domino the Destitute
Here to Mars
The Dark Sentencer
Colors
The Crowing

21-30ish:
Welcome Home
Time Consumer
A Favor House Atlantic
Wake Up
The Suffering
The Running Free
Number City
Lucky Stars
The Willing Well IV: The Final Cut
2113

As I said above, i didn't really over think my list. The Road and the Damned is just my go to Coheed song at the moment, and I just love singing along to it.

I love that you've put Gravity's Union at the top. As much as I LOVE the second half of that song, the first half holds it up from cracking the top tier. It is amazing though. Yours is a great list, I can get on board with the majority of it.

I feel a full discography playthrough coming on.

[jammindude]

Not a big enough fan to come up with a list, but even though it’s only an intro, Always & Never is one of those songs that I sometimes play over and over before I let the album continue so I still consider it a favorite. Not many songs have that much beauty and creepiness at the same time.

Which ironically reminds me of something that turns me off about C&C sometimes, but I’ve got to go to work.

[Lonk]

These don't follow a particular order but just songs that I would put on my "top Coheed songs". Surprised to see no song from SSTB made it, but I have 3 songs from YOTBR and TCBTS.

1. In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth
2. The Crowing
3. The Camper Velorium I: Faint of Hearts
4. 2113
5. Keeping The Blade/Always & Never (Combining these 2).
6. Welcome Home
7. Once Upon a Dead Body
8. Wake Up
9. No World For Tomorrow
10. Gravemaker & Gunslingers
11. Here we are Juggernaut
12. Domino the Destitute
13. Evagria the Faithful
14. The Hard Sell
15. Iron Fist
16. Dark Side of Me
17. 2's My Favorite 1
18. Island
19. Here To Mars
20. The Dark Sentencer
21. The Gutter
22. All On Fire
23. Old Flames
24. Blood Red Summer
25. The Hound (of Blood and Rank)

[425]

Not a big enough fan to come up with a list, but even though it’s only an intro, Always & Never is one of those songs that I sometimes play over and over before I let the album continue so I still consider it a favorite. Not many songs have that much beauty and creepiness at the same time.

I thought pretty seriously about including Always & Never, too.

These don't follow a particular order but just songs that I would put on my "top Coheed songs". Surprised to see no song from SSTB made it, but I have 3 songs from YOTBR and TCBTS.

1. In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth
2. The Crowing
3. The Camper Velorium I: Faint of Hearts
4. 2113
5. Keeping The Blade/Always & Never (Combining these 2).
6. Welcome Home
7. Once Upon a Dead Body
8. Wake Up
9. No World For Tomorrow
10. Gravemaker & Gunslingers
11. Here we are Juggernaut
12. Domino the Destitute
13. Evagria the Faithful
14. The Hard Sell
15. Iron Fist
16. Dark Side of Me
17. 2's My Favorite 1
18. Island
19. Here To Mars
20. The Dark Sentencer
21. The Gutter
22. All On Fire
23. Old Flames
24. Blood Red Summer
25. The Hound (of Blood and Rank)

Ooh, Faint of Hearts! I came very close to putting that one.

[jammindude]

“Boing boing boing”

[Lonk]

Doing the top 25 songs got me into a Coheed spiral listening to all these songs. While listening to The Dark Sentencer, I got reminded of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-JFucbb6No

Back story, before this show Claudio was trolling everyone saying he cut his hair (fake pictures online and everything) and this is the way he revealed it was not true. Here is another video of him explaining the prank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNlngjjf7nE

[twosuitsluke]

So I can't stop listening to Shoulders. Im usually pretty good at listening to a single once or twice, then writing for the album. Not this time though, I think it's great!

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Doing the top 25 songs got me into a Coheed spiral listening to all these songs. While listening to The Dark Sentencer, I got reminded of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-JFucbb6No

Back story, before this show Claudio was trolling everyone saying he cut his hair (fake pictures online and everything) and this is the way he revealed it was not true. Here is another video of him explaining the prank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNlngjjf7nE

I'd really like to know how he fit all of his hair under that hat. 

[Phoenix87x]

I'd really like to know how he fit all of his hair under that hat. 

I was literally about to post the same thing 

[Lonk]

Video from yesterday's live stream is up already.

I was there, fun show, as every Coheed show is. The setlist was good, I just wish it would have been a bit longer. The Final Cut was the highlight for me, such a great piece!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZnAaL_tmvY&ab_channel=gravityisweak

[twosuitsluke]

Video from yesterday's live stream is up already.

I was there, fun show, as every Coheed show is. The setlist was good, I just wish it would have been a bit longer. The Final Cut was the highlight for me, such a great piece!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZnAaL_tmvY&ab_channel=gravityisweak

Man I miss seeing this band so much! I started watching this but it sounds weird as you can barely hear the crowd. The crowd participation is always off the scale at a Coheed show! God I need to get to a show soon.

[twosuitsluke]

Also, fun thing I picked up on today. So I was listening to the Penelope EP, by Shabutie, and man there is some serious Deftones influence going on there that I never picked up on before.

[cramx3]

Video from yesterday's live stream is up already.

I was there, fun show, as every Coheed show is. The setlist was good, I just wish it would have been a bit longer. The Final Cut was the highlight for me, such a great piece!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZnAaL_tmvY&ab_channel=gravityisweak

The sound is pretty solid on this even if you can't hear the crowd.  I can see myself clearly at 46:50 

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Video from yesterday's live stream is up already.

I was there, fun show, as every Coheed show is. The setlist was good, I just wish it would have been a bit longer. The Final Cut was the highlight for me, such a great piece!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZnAaL_tmvY&ab_channel=gravityisweak

The sound is pretty solid on this even if you can't hear the crowd.  I can see myself clearly at 46:50 

Yep, there you are!

[DTA]

I can't believe these jackasses dropped Toys after 2 shows to put in a GA1 song they've played a million times already. I love Coheed but they really suck at making interesting setlists

[Lonk]

I can't believe these jackasses dropped Toys after 2 shows to put in a GA1 song they've played a million times already. I love Coheed but they really suck at making interesting setlists

I never had any issues with their setlist, but I guess they do tend to play the same songs. It's pretty much a guarantee that they'll play Welcome Home and In Keeping Secrets. Then they usually grab some of their most popular songs, any new song for them and that's about it. One of my favorite shows from them was actually and 1-and-done for the release of Unheavenly Creature. They announced the show 3 days earlier and I was lucky to get tickets. I am somewhere in this video 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bokyapglo1X/?hl=en

[Phoenix87x]

New song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BFqmKtLj1s&t=4s

[Lonk]

Nice song, it flows a little better than Shoulders

[twosuitsluke]

Love both of these songs. Shoulders has easily been my song of the year! Really pumped for the album.

[TheSoylentMan]

Random question, do any of you folks own the vinyl edition of the Unheavenly Creatures? If so, how is the sound? I recently bought a copy (the cat's eye color variety) and it looks cool, but there is a ton of surface noise on it. It sounds ok when the band is in full gear, but it's really distracting in the quieter passages. I'm kind of curious if I got a bad copy or if they're all like that. Debating whether to try exchanging for another copy or just returning it and getting a CD.

[Lonk]

Coheed's new album coming out May 27th 

Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind

Track List:
The Embers of Fire
Beautiful Losers
Comatose
Shoulders
A Disappearing Act
Love Murder One
Blood
The Liars Club
Bad Man
Our Love
Ladders of Supremacy
Rise, Naianasha (Cut the Cord)
Window of the Waking Mind

[SoundscapeMN]

Random question, do any of you folks own the vinyl edition of the Unheavenly Creatures? If so, how is the sound? I recently bought a copy (the cat's eye color variety) and it looks cool, but there is a ton of surface noise on it. It sounds ok when the band is in full gear, but it's really distracting in the quieter passages. I'm kind of curious if I got a bad copy or if they're all like that. Debating whether to try exchanging for another copy or just returning it and getting a CD.

I don't, but have thought about it and based on this, I may hold off and see if it gets repressed again without the surface noise.

[Nel]

Coheed's new album coming out May 27th 

Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind

Track List:
The Embers of Fire
Beautiful Losers
Comatose
Shoulders
A Disappearing Act
Love Murder One
Blood
The Liars Club
Bad Man
Our Love
Ladders of Supremacy
Rise, Naianasha (Cut the Cord)
Window of the Waking Mind

Man, after four years of waiting. Didn't they say this Vaxis story was going to be seven or eight albums long? I'll be gray by the time it finishes, if that's the case. 

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Coheed's new album coming out May 27th 

Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind

Track List:
The Embers of Fire
Beautiful Losers
Comatose
Shoulders
A Disappearing Act
Love Murder One
Blood
The Liars Club
Bad Man
Our Love
Ladders of Supremacy
Rise, Naianasha (Cut the Cord)
Window of the Waking Mind

Man, after four years of waiting. Didn't they say this Vaxis story was going to be seven or eight albums long? I'll be gray by the time it finishes, if that's the case. 

I thought it was only supposed to be 5 albums. Not sure though.

[Nel]

I thought it was only supposed to be 5 albums. Not sure though.

My memory's fuzzy. I think I read about it in an article that came out around Unheavenly Creatures' release. Even at five, though, if the albums are going to be four years apart then this will take a bit.

[ProfessorPeart]

5 part series.

Coheed and Cambria has announced details of their widely anticipated new album, Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind. The ambitious thirteen track epic was produced by the band’s own Claudio Sanchez and Zakk Cervini, and will be released worldwide on May 27.

Today the band has launched pre-orders for the album on DSPs and for the collection’s deeply immersive Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind Limited Edition Deluxe Box Set.

Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind welcomes us back to “The Amory Wars” as the second installment of the five-part “Vaxis” arc about a couple on the run from tyrannical forces and their mysterious new addition. The album’s limited edition deluxe box set [packaging shot below] includes the exclusive 96-page illustrated hardcover novel “A Window of the Waking Mind” which was developed by Sanchez and written by his wife Chondra Echert with strikingly realistic color artwork by Chase Stone. The 9” x 12” box set also houses an exclusive Quintillan Speaker Containment Unit Lamp (approx. 8” diameter), a 3-panel fold out poster of expanded album cover art, and the A Window of the Waking Mind Black Card which will allow all card holders early access to tickets and early entry to Coheed and Cambria headline dates. All box sets will also come with a CD copy and download of Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind along with an official Certificate of Authenticity. Furthermore, fans who pre-order the limited edition box set before January 23rd, will receive autographed copies and have their name included within the pages of the accompanying illustrated hardcover novel. For more information on Vaxis II: A Window of the Waking Mind Limited Edition Deluxe Box Set, visit www.coheedandcambria.com.

[SoundscapeMN]

20 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD6qt0WuxRo

[twosuitsluke]

20 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD6qt0WuxRo

I never would've guessed that was 20 years old if I'd stumbled across it. For a start Josh is the only one who looks really young! Travis literally hasn't aged, Claudio has a bit of a different look and his hair is short but damn. For some reason I also thought Mike joined the band later than 2002, and they had a different bassist at this point.

Either way, SSTB rules and I'll give it a spin 

I was not 'one among the fence' 20 years ago, like so many others I jumped on board in '05, when I heard Welcome Home.

In more recent news, I can't stop spinning the three singles for the upcoming album. Usually I can hold off and wait for the album to drop. Not with these bad boys though. I love all three and can't stop listening.

The Liars Club is particularly catchy.

[DTA]

20 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD6qt0WuxRo

I never would've guessed that was 20 years old if I'd stumbled across it. For a start Josh is the only one who looks really young! Travis literally hasn't aged, Claudio has a bit of a different look and his hair is short but damn. For some reason I also thought Mike joined the band later than 2002, and they had a different bassist at this point.

Either way, SSTB rules and I'll give it a spin 

I was not 'one among the fence' 20 years ago, like so many others I jumped on board in '05, when I heard Welcome Home.

In more recent news, I can't stop spinning the three singles for the upcoming album. Usually I can hold off and wait for the album to drop. Not with these bad boys though. I love all three and can't stop listening.

The Liars Club is particularly catchy.

This sounds like it's going to be their poppiest album yet which I'm very happy about. Liars Club is addictive, and Rise Naraiaiarjaa (or whatever) was equally as catchy.

I was lucky enough to get into them in between SSTB and IKS and their live shows were absolutely insane back then. They could rival any metal band for audience intensity

[Lonk]

I was late into the Coheed train (Funny enough, one of their most disliked album got me into their music, Year of the Black Rainbow). I'm ready for their show in 10 days  and then have tickets to see them again in July.

SSTB is not my favorite, mainly because of the production and guitar tone, but the songs themselves are good. I'll listen to it while I do some work 

[ShadowWalker]

I was late into the Coheed train (Funny enough, one of their most disliked album got me into their music, Year of the Black Rainbow). I'm ready for their show in 10 days  and then have tickets to see them again in July.

SSTB is not my favorite, mainly because of the production and guitar tone, but the songs themselves are good. I'll listen to it while I do some work 

Caught the show in Richmond this past weekend. Was curious if they would tweak the setlist at all since the show was on the 20th anniversary of the release of SSTB, but it wasn't. Still, it was a great show (#16 for me) and I am looking forward to the show in Harrisburg a week from Saturday. I too have tix for two shows on the summer tour.

I was late to the party as well. Someone had recommended them to me when IKS came out and I bought the album. At the time it didn't click but it was always in the back of my mind that there is something with this band that I need to keep following. I kept buying albums  and nothing (including the limited edition Neverender box set that sat on my shelf unplayed for a while until I finally "got it."). But couldn't give up on them. Then it all came together when I saw them open for Heaven and Hell in the summer of 2009. Everything about their live performance spoke to me. Once that lightbulb turned on, it hasn't turned off and I have been a huge supporter of the band ever since. This is one of the few bands that if I am going to introduce them to someone, I would rather convince them to join me at a concert versus just recommending an album or handing off a mix. And that tactic has been successful for a few of my friends.

[Nel]

I got into the band the same way I got into about a dozen bands back in college: they had a song on the video game Rock Band. 

[ProfessorPeart]

Just noticed that Vaxis II got pushed back to the end of June. I thought it was still this month but as I was getting my pre-order in, I noticed the new date.