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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #281 on: May 31, 2013, 11:08:49 AM »
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #282 on: May 31, 2013, 11:20:33 AM »
https://www.amazon.com/Winery-Dogs/dp/B00CXQL828/ref=tmm_acd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1370018498&sr=8-1 US Preorder from Amazon.


Oh, cool.  7/23 release date.  That's not too far off.

Watch MP pull a DT and delay it until October 2014.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #283 on: May 31, 2013, 02:52:05 PM »
Another video (technically the same one but a different song!). I like it. I was expecting a big, long solo that never came but this is shaping up to be a cool album.

https://www.guitarworld.com/exclusive-video-premiere-im-no-angel-winery-dogs-richie-kotzen-billy-sheehan-and-mike-portnoy

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #284 on: May 31, 2013, 03:16:26 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/Winery-Dogs/dp/B00CXQL828/ref=tmm_acd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1370018498&sr=8-1 US Preorder from Amazon.


Oh, cool.  7/23 release date.  That's not too far off.

Watch MP pull a DT and delay it until October 2014.

He's too reliable for that.  ;D

If MP was still in DT, we'd already have that DVD

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #287 on: May 31, 2013, 04:27:10 PM »
Really liked it! This is now my favorite MP side project right behind OSI.

I will actually pay money to see these guys if they come near me.

EDIT: The style of the last song reminds me a lot of Candlebox/The Gracious Few: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRPDdK7rG_o
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #288 on: May 31, 2013, 05:03:29 PM »
Has this been posted already?

https://www.guitarworld.com/exclusive-video-premiere-im-no-angel-winery-dogs-richie-kotzen-billy-sheehan-and-mike-portnoy

yup. two posts up  :biggrin:

That's what you get from posting from a phone. :lol

For me the video means I will sit this one out. The first song excited me because it was almost a proggy Mr Big song on a blues foundation. All the other stuff is way more blues it seems, which isn't my thing.
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #289 on: June 01, 2013, 12:49:19 AM »
Nice song. I'm glad not every song is trying to be super flashy and show off, and there's a bit of variety.
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #290 on: June 01, 2013, 12:56:23 AM »
Looks like it's going to be a good album. I'd buy this!
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #291 on: June 01, 2013, 01:18:52 AM »
If this is an actual track off the album, I'm extra-pumped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4vVFh0rbh0
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #292 on: June 01, 2013, 02:51:35 AM »
New song is really nice. :tup

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #293 on: June 01, 2013, 12:50:20 PM »
If this is an actual track off the album, I'm extra-pumped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4vVFh0rbh0

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #294 on: June 01, 2013, 04:08:51 PM »
I'm loving how genuinely bluesy this is.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #295 on: June 02, 2013, 05:17:30 AM »
Neat, I suppose.  But I think that both Portnoy and Sheehan are better suited to other things.

But hey, if they can have fun and make some money with this, then more power to them.
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #296 on: June 02, 2013, 06:34:38 AM »
But I think that both Portnoy and Sheehan are better suited to other things.


It's all in the eye of the beholder. Thankfully.

As for the album itself, the first half is more instant than the second half but the latter is certainly growing on me. So much man love for Kotzen here. Some of the tunes wouldn't have been out of place on Poison's Native Tongue (that should get the progsnobs running a mile...).
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #297 on: June 02, 2013, 06:35:46 AM »
Better hope Kotzen doesn't steal Billy or MP's wife then. :lol
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #298 on: June 02, 2013, 08:54:37 AM »
But I think that both Portnoy and Sheehan are better suited to other things.


It's all in the eye of the beholder. Thankfully.

As for the album itself, the first half is more instant than the second half but the latter is certainly growing on me. So much man love for Kotzen here. Some of the tunes wouldn't have been out of place on Poison's Native Tongue (that should get the progsnobs running a mile...).

which would be a shame as it's a great album, certainly not what everyone thinks a Poison album would be. There's alot there to like.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #299 on: June 05, 2013, 06:43:40 AM »
Up until a few minutes ago, I had foolishly written off The Winery Dogs as "random MP side-project #5", but after listening to some of the songs I am really digging it.

I've been mildly interested in his other side projects, but I feel like this is something that I can really love.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #300 on: June 05, 2013, 02:41:28 PM »
Better hope Kotzen doesn't steal Billy or MP's wife then. :lol

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #301 on: June 05, 2013, 03:21:18 PM »
I can't get into this at all. Not really a fan of the dad-rock/blues-metal vibes I'm feeling on it. Catchy at times! (especially in Elevate and Damaged) and some bloody amazing playing! but I can't see how people could really, genuinely, nay, unbiassedly, fall in love with this music or get super hyped for it (based on the 3 songs i've heard). I'm sure it was fun for them to produce, and it would be great to see them live for sure. each to their own I guess.

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« Reply #302 on: June 05, 2013, 03:24:56 PM »
I can't get into this at all. Not really a fan of the dad-rock/blues-metal vibes I'm feeling on it. Catchy at times! (especially in Elevate and Damaged) and some bloody amazing playing! but I can't see how people could really, genuinely, nay, unbiassedly, fall in love with this music or get super hyped for it (based on the 3 songs i've heard). I'm sure it was fun for them to produce, and it would be great to see them live for sure. each to their own I guess.

unless you like that sort of thing of course   :biggrin:

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« Reply #303 on: June 05, 2013, 03:52:32 PM »
unless you like that sort of thing of course   :biggrin:

Yeah it's totally just a personal preference thing :smiley:
I think the point that I should have/wanted to make was that while this is a fun hard bluesy rock album, it's certainly not really ground breaking, progressive or brings anything new to the table. And it doesn't have to at all! I still don't see the appeal of it lol but if you like it then its more music for you to listen to and enjoy and that's great.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #305 on: June 08, 2013, 12:59:03 PM »
Secretly listening to the entire album right now! Nearly halfway now, and the tracks that weren't released officially before are just as good as the others.
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #306 on: June 08, 2013, 09:39:18 PM »
The whole album is on YT, fyi. Dunno, Elevate is still a good song, but the rest ranges from meh to uninspired. Especially RK's doubling of his vocal lines with his guitar was getting on my nerves.
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #307 on: June 08, 2013, 10:24:00 PM »
Elevate is still a good song, but the rest ranges from meh to uninspired.
Yeah, having now listened to the whole thing myself, I agree with this. A couple of the other song may grown on me, but so far Elevate just seems to be a step or two up from the rest of the album. Rather disappointing.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #308 on: June 09, 2013, 03:36:19 PM »
It's an OK album, the first 5-6 songs are great, the rest is good but imo they don't bring anything new to the table. But it's an interesting project and I'm wondering how it'll sound live....

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #309 on: June 10, 2013, 12:44:06 AM »
The whole album is on YT, fyi. Dunno, Elevate is still a good song, but the rest ranges from meh to uninspired. Especially RK's doubling of his vocal lines with his guitar was getting on my nerves.

Listening to the second half of the album right now, and I can't hear a single point where he's doubling his guitar.

Ha, as I was typing that I heard the prechorus of The Dying. But still.
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« Reply #310 on: June 13, 2013, 07:44:03 PM »
Plus, I think the average promoter is gonna see The Winery Dogs having an appeal on the same type of fans that Adrenaline Mob did.  Right or wrong, I think most will see it that way given that both, in simple terms, do that kind of power trio hard rock (A-Mob having a singer to go along with the trio instead of one of the three being the singer).


I see this project as slightly below the level of Chickenfoot or Black Country Communion and I would expect it to last a similar duration.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #311 on: June 17, 2013, 05:46:23 AM »
I´m actually liking it a lot! Great riffing, good vocal work....yeah.... :tup
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« Reply #312 on: June 17, 2013, 09:17:07 AM »
Plus, I think the average promoter is gonna see The Winery Dogs having an appeal on the same type of fans that Adrenaline Mob did.  Right or wrong, I think most will see it that way given that both, in simple terms, do that kind of power trio hard rock (A-Mob having a singer to go along with the trio instead of one of the three being the singer).


I see this project as slightly below the level of Chickenfoot or Black Country Communion and I would expect it to last a similar duration.

For me it's better than all of those, in the quality of the songs. Found Chickenfoot & BCC boring, and I love Satch's (rare) vocal songs on his own albums. I could be alone in that  :biggrin:

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #313 on: June 18, 2013, 09:08:14 AM »
The Winery Dogs....


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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #314 on: June 18, 2013, 09:09:01 AM »
Plus, I think the average promoter is gonna see The Winery Dogs having an appeal on the same type of fans that Adrenaline Mob did.  Right or wrong, I think most will see it that way given that both, in simple terms, do that kind of power trio hard rock (A-Mob having a singer to go along with the trio instead of one of the three being the singer).


I see this project as slightly below the level of Chickenfoot or Black Country Communion and I would expect it to last a similar duration.


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