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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2012, 10:17:26 AM »
I hear you.  But that's actually a pretty common criticism with Sykes, so I don't really fault him for explaining that as the reason things didn't work out.  I thought the tone of those posts was actually pretty fair, to be honest.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #141 on: August 09, 2012, 10:27:43 AM »
I actually don't care if it's Sykes or Kotzen. The fact that it's the project of MP, Kotzen, and Sheenan jamming means way more to me than "Oh, this is a John Sykes solo record, with some big names as hired guns."

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #142 on: August 09, 2012, 12:37:27 PM »
and I'm not sure if it ever would've seeing the way he worked)...in fact, he refused to pick up a guitar and play with me & Billy in the same room...me & Billy basically tracked to his existing scratch guitar and vocals... [..] the work ethics are just world's apart...

Man. I hate to beat that dead horse, but can he not write a single post without dissing a former band member? It's the same thing he did with the two AM guys who left.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #143 on: August 09, 2012, 02:16:40 PM »
Probably not :lol

But, my dissing will probably subside when his diss/week ratio drops below 1.0. This week he's dissed Sykes and Sorum.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #144 on: August 10, 2012, 02:36:11 AM »
and I'm not sure if it ever would've seeing the way he worked)...in fact, he refused to pick up a guitar and play with me & Billy in the same room...me & Billy basically tracked to his existing scratch guitar and vocals... [..] the work ethics are just world's apart...

Man. I hate to beat that dead horse, but can he not write a single post without dissing a former band member? It's the same thing he did with the two AM guys who left.

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i often wonder if rumby can write a single post without dissing portnoy.

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Why the need for such negativity???

I have never dissed John Sykes...we got along fabulously...bummed it never took off...
My post was simply explaining the differences between the projects and creative environments.

These sessions I am doing with Billy & Richie are VERY exciting....
(Here's my studio diary: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2780180.aspx)

There's no need to put a negative slant on this (or anything else I'm doing)!

Spirits are high and vibes are positive!!!
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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #145 on: August 10, 2012, 03:11:02 AM »
This seems to be an interesting project, i'm curious how MP's drums will lock with Sheenan's bass since he has a more "attacking" bass style than the other bass players MP has collaborated with.

I dislike AM, but Flying Colors was very good, and this seems to be something different as well, i hope we can get a song or just samples to get an idea of the style and sound of the band, since i don't really care about the comparisons with existing bands' sounds and "vibes", but it is a very promising project.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #146 on: August 10, 2012, 04:33:18 AM »
Haha, funny. I haven't looked at this until now. I'm actually quite interest. Portnoys drums + Sheehan's bass seems like it could be something to behold.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #147 on: August 10, 2012, 05:44:27 AM »
Yeah, Portnoy/Sheenan is what draws me to this, too. Mike with a good bass player (oh hurro Mike!) is usually awesome, and I always felt like Mike locking in with JP (rather than JM) on DT records was lost potential, considering Transatlantic might be the best rhythm section in modern prog.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #148 on: August 10, 2012, 08:57:22 AM »
I was just listening to the All Along The Watchtower cover and noticed that Kotzen plays without pick. Does he always, or just for that one song?

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #149 on: August 10, 2012, 10:08:51 AM »
Hi Mike ;D
Excited for this, billy Sheehan is one of my favorite bassists. I don't know Ritchie kotzen, but considering he had to fill Gilbert's shoes he must be pretty good.
Best of luck to them!

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #150 on: August 10, 2012, 11:21:25 AM »
I've been following the tour diary, and I have to say, I'm pretty excited about hearing this material.  From everything I'm hearing, I think this should be a fun album that I will probably dig.

I posted on MP.com, but I don't see my post.  Not sure if I made a posting error, or if my post was deleted.  Hopefully not the latter.  Given my rather outspoken MP support in the past, It'd be a shame if I were now secretly blacklisted for speaking my mind when I disagree on a few things and for letting others on this site do the same (provided, as always, that it remains constructive).  Hopefully, it was just a posting glitch, and I didn't catch it and repost before closing the browser.  Happens sometimes.  Anyhow, the gist of my post was:  Unfortunately, I'm guilty of being one of those who never really took the time to get to know Ritchie's work outside of what he did with Poison and Mr. Big, so I unfairly just lumped him in with that genre of music.  I've only recently started really digging into how talented he is.  Really looking forward to hearing how he, Billie, and Mike mesh.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #151 on: August 10, 2012, 01:10:46 PM »
Richie had a rather thankless job filling in Paul Gilbert's shoes.  I mean, let's face it, Mr. Big without Paul was like DT without JP.
I definitely have to say, Richie has an awesome voice. Maybe sometimes a bit too close to Chris Cornell for comfort, but he for sure has gifted pipes. Too bad his music doesn't much overlap with my interests, I would probably suck up his output wholesale if he did less bluesy stuff.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #152 on: August 10, 2012, 01:30:42 PM »
Just read MP's update describing the difference between the Sykes and Kotzen projects. Would still prefer the Sykes project. Whitesnake/Blue Murder wins over funk/blues everytime chez Lowdz. Kotzen's solo stuff just doesn't do anything for me. Didn't even like his shred stuff back in the day and I loved the Mike Varney acts.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #153 on: August 20, 2012, 08:57:52 PM »
I'm looking forward to this although I'm not much of a fan of Sykes/Kotzen's work.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #154 on: October 31, 2012, 02:51:31 AM »
Love Kotzen, he's got a great bluesy-funky vibe, and he's a great vocalist. So I'm really looking forward to this now.

Btw, I bet Steve Stevens would love a new project, Mike should hook up with him.

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« Reply #155 on: March 23, 2013, 04:33:33 PM »
maybe re-title this thread "The Winery Dogs"

debut album in May.

https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2829214.aspx
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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #156 on: March 23, 2013, 04:42:13 PM »
Sweet, an extra album and concert to the list!

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #157 on: March 23, 2013, 04:55:57 PM »
WTF happened to MP in that picture?!!

Regarding the album, has there been any leaks regarding style of music?
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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #158 on: March 23, 2013, 05:30:14 PM »
Hopefully not something like AM.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #159 on: March 23, 2013, 11:53:37 PM »
somehow, I doubt it'll be much if anything like A-Mob.

The style of The Winery Dogs is supposedly highly influenced by 70's Classic/Hard Rock ala Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Cream, Rainbow, etc.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #160 on: April 22, 2013, 01:40:26 AM »
Couldn't find a Winery Dogs thread so here's a link to The Winery Dogs newest single and music video: Elevate
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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #161 on: April 22, 2013, 01:49:15 AM »
Couldn't find a Winery Dogs thread so here's a link to The Winery Dogs newest single and music video: Elevate
Terrible video, but I don't mind the song at all. Nothing ground-breaking or mind-blowing, but I like it. This album might actually end up being decent.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #162 on: April 22, 2013, 02:07:48 AM »
I liked that. As Bolsters said, nothing ground-breaking, but after hearing that, I'm interested in getting the album. A good rock style without trying to be too heavy, with a dose of technicality that doesn't detract from the songwriting. This would be the first post-DT MP project I've been interested in.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #163 on: April 22, 2013, 04:18:14 AM »
I liked that. As Bolsters said, nothing ground-breaking, but after hearing that, I'm interested in getting the album. A good rock style without trying to be too heavy, with a dose of technicality that doesn't detract from the songwriting. This would be the first post-DT MP project I've been interested in.

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Couldn't have said it better.
I was more interested in the original project with Sykes but this sounds good.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and ?? project thread
« Reply #164 on: April 22, 2013, 05:02:19 AM »
Couldn't find a Winery Dogs thread so here's a link to The Winery Dogs newest single and music video: Elevate

I thought this was absolutely awesome.  Solid, melodic rock with great musicianship, and not trying to impress anyone or do anything groundbreaking for the sake of it.  This song is what it is.  When's the album coming out?
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #165 on: April 22, 2013, 05:05:04 AM »
Special effects in that video looks like DT's LSFNY effects.  :lol

But yeah, Blob said everything I wanted to say about the music.
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #166 on: April 22, 2013, 06:18:53 AM »
Just off that one single it's the best sounding thing from post-DT Mike I've heard.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #167 on: April 22, 2013, 07:02:14 AM »
Wow, that's really awesome. But you know what the project needs? Some Sherinian. Seriously! I'd imagine adding keys in here and you'd be able to do a pretty damn good cover of "Burn".

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #168 on: April 22, 2013, 08:12:22 AM »
Song was great but who else thinks the vox sound a lot like Cornell?

Aside from that I am actually looking forward to this project but still waiting for something more "proggy".

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #169 on: April 22, 2013, 08:13:51 AM »
Loved the song, and I liked the Cornell-esque vocals

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #170 on: April 22, 2013, 08:21:53 AM »
That kicked ass.  I absolutely love it.  I cannot wait to hear the rest.

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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #171 on: April 22, 2013, 09:01:00 AM »
I think he sounds a lot like Sammy Hagar more than anyone else, especially during the verses.

Anyway, not a bad song.  It didn't make me wanting more, but I could see checking out the whole CD when it comes out if it is easy to do so. ;) 


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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #172 on: April 22, 2013, 09:09:53 AM »
Yeah, I can see me giving this a listen on Spotify. I clearly need to look into Kotzen's work though, he's a damn good guitarist.
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« Reply #173 on: April 22, 2013, 09:27:48 AM »
ok, that was pretty sweet.  Can't wait to hear the rest of what they are cooking up.
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Re: The Winery Dogs thread - Portnoy, Sheehan and Kotzen
« Reply #174 on: April 22, 2013, 10:04:06 AM »
Has Kotzen always played without a pick?

EDIT:  I guess not:

https://www.guitarplayer.com/article/jumping-into-the-fire-by-richie-kotzen/148776
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