Author Topic: The inaugural All Music Fantasy Draft (Read 14760 times)

El Barto · « **on:** July 20, 2011, 03:17:18 PM »

So I've been throwing darts in my office and dreaming up the next big craze to sweep DTF. Reading through the Top Five Songs thread, you see plenty of "great list!"s and "Oh yeah!"s, and it seems like a competitive element might be in order. Here's what I'm pondering. Eight entrants drafting 8 songs each. Once everybody has their lineup, we'll put all 8 lists in a poll, or a tournament bracket or something, and let the rest of DTF decide who crafted the best lineup. Perhaps vote on them as Desert Island compilation CD's.

I'm thinking any piece of music. Any genre. A song can only appear on one list. Personally, I think favorites would be the interesting way to do it, but if people wanted to roll the dice on what they think would be popular picks, that's there lookout, I suppose. I suspect there would be a natural tendency to avoid really obscure, oddball material, Tuvan throat singing probably wouldn't garner too much support, but again, to each their own. If the concept turns out to be viable, then I figure people can do this sort of thing for all sorts of genres, eras, styles, etc.

Who will be the first 8 contestants? What else should be considered? Other questions? Should it end in a tournament bracket, a survivor, a poll or some other method?

Edit: Here are the participants, in order, and their picks thus far:

   1. Nic35--1. Shine On You Crazy Diamond, 2. Octavarium 3. The Czar (Mastodon) 4. Epidemic (Blackfield) 5. Hex Omega 6. Sun of Nothing (BtBaM) 7. The Art of Dying (Gojira) 8. Save Me (A7X)
https://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Fantasy+Draft/58510254

   2. Ħ--1. Stranger In Your Soul, 2. Trial of Tears 3. Trains 4. Dogs 5. Ghost of Perdition 6. 1,000 People (Blackfield) 7. Ghost Love Score (Nightwish) 8. Veneno Para Las Hadas (SW)
https://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Playlist+1/58503652

   3. Numbers--1. Earth Day, 2. Serenity Painted Death 3. Home 4. Master of Puppets 5. Bleed the Freak 6. Daughter (Pearl Jam) 7. Where do the Children Play (Cat Stevens) 8. God of Emptiness (Morbid Angel)
https://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Playlist+1/58490687

   4. Iarwain--1. Jackie (Scott Walker), 2. Stone to Wake a Serpent (Isis) 3.One More Robot/Sympathy 3000-21 (Flaming Lips) 4. Buckingham Green (ween) 5. Naki Kyoku (Boris) 6. Vu d'ici (Emilie Simon) 7. The Hawthorne Passage (Agalloch) 8. Buffalo Daughter (Cyclic)
https://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Playlist+1/58498162

   5. Ravenheart--1. Winter (Tori Amos), 2. Prayers for Rain (The Cure) 3. Marry Me (Emilie Autumn) 4. One Last Goodbye (Anathema) 5. Black Celebration (Depeche Mode) 6. Great Wide Open (Sarah Fimm) 7. Hurt (NIИ) 8. Let's not Shit Ourselves (Bright Eyes)
https://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Playlist+V+Ravenheart/58515161

   6. El Barto--1. ACoS, 2. Anesthetize 3. Hemispheres 4. Close to the Edge 5. How Many More Times 6. Symphony No. 7 (Beethoven) 7. Kings and Queens (Aerosmith) 8. Stargazer (Rainbow)
https://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Playlist+1/58488461

   7. DTVT--1. Learning to Live 2. Natural Science 3. Arriving Somewhere But Not Here 4. All Along the Watchtower 5. Bohemian Rhapsody 6. Crazy Train 7. Losing My Religion (R.E.M.) 8. One (U2)

   8. Riceball--1. Medic (Thomas Giles) 2. Where the Rain Gets in (Beardfish) 3. Cicatriz ESP (The Mars Volta) 4. Deadman (Karnivool) 5. Money 6. Knights of Cydonia (Muse) 7. Disruptr 8. Master Exploder (Tenacious D)
https://grooveshark.com/playlist/DT+Music+Draft/58512575

Poll is started and can be found here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=26506.0

Cool Chris · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2011, 03:58:36 PM »

I would be willing to participate!

Having it open to any genre could make things interesting.

edit... this sort of reminds me of the Thunderdome game we had a while back, if you remember that at all EB.

Iarwain · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:05:28 PM »

Sounds interesting. I'd like to give it a try.

El Barto · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:26:09 PM »

Thunderdome must have been before my time.

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:28:38 PM »

May I join, as well?

Cool Chris · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:35:19 PM »

Quote from: El Barto on July 20, 2011, 04:26:09 PM

Thunderdome must have been before my time.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=24116.msg925074#msg925074

This was more of a head-to-head, bracket based thing, revolving around a specific topic. Not sure if that was what you were going for.

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:39:16 PM »

I think it could probably be good to maybe have a sort of specific characteristic of sorts for the candidate songs to meet.

Ħ · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:48:21 PM »

How bout this:

1) Each person can nominate 1 candidate
2) Candidates with 2 nominations get placed in a poll
3) The 8 candidates that have the highest votes get to compete.

El Barto · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:59:25 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on July 20, 2011, 04:48:21 PM

How bout this:

1) Each person can nominate 1 candidate
2) Candidates with 2 nominations get placed in a poll
3) The 8 candidates that have the highest votes get to compete.

Damn, that's more drawn out than the event itself.

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2011, 05:18:57 PM »

Sounds great, Bart

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2011, 05:20:11 PM »

I'm interested

Sigz · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2011, 06:28:22 PM »

I was actually just thinking the other day about how we needed to have some kind of competitive music type thing. I'm in.

zxlkho · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2011, 06:55:56 PM »

I am interest.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2011, 07:45:57 PM »

I'm pretty interested, but more confused.

dethklok09 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2011, 07:50:50 PM »

I'll join if there are some spots open.

El Barto · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:10:36 PM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 20, 2011, 07:45:57 PM

I'm pretty interested, but more confused.

Que? Por que?

Nic35 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:12:32 PM »

I want to participate

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:16:16 PM »

Bro...you're really jonesing for football........

LeeHarveyKennedy · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:17:33 PM »

I'll do it. You'll all hate my music, but I'll do it.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:19:47 PM »

Quote from: El Barto on July 20, 2011, 08:10:36 PM

Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 20, 2011, 07:45:57 PM
I'm pretty interested, but more confused.
Que? Por que?

Like, this draft, how does it work?

Sorry, but I'm more the kind of person that needs to have their hand held through every new thing.

Nic35 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:23:10 PM »

8 members will do a list of their 8 favorite songs. Then members vote for the best list of songs. Simple.

El Barto · « **Reply #21 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:26:43 PM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 20, 2011, 08:19:47 PM

Quote from: El Barto on July 20, 2011, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 20, 2011, 07:45:57 PM
I'm pretty interested, but more confused.
Que? Por que?

Like, this draft, how does it work?

Sorry, but I'm more the kind of person that needs to have their hand held through every new thing.

Just like the draft in any sporting league. There'll be 8 of us. We'll each pick one song at a time, in a set order which will be determined (by random chance) before hand. After however long it takes for 64 selections, we'll each have a list of 8 songs. Think of it as each of us trying to draft the best mix-tape possible. After we've each made our lineup, the rest of DTF will vote to see who made the best mix-tape (though I prefer to think of it as a desert island tape). Think of it as a competition to see which DTF'er has the best taste in music.

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:28:06 PM »

Put me in coach!!! I'm in!

skydivingninja · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:33:25 PM »

I'd be interested in participating. I love making mixes/playlists and whatnot so this should be up my alley.

El Barto · « **Reply #24 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:46:56 PM »

Quote from: LeeHarveyKennedy on July 20, 2011, 08:17:33 PM

I'll do it. You'll all hate my music, but I'll do it.

Considering how my 3 attempts at participating in survivors went, your taste can't be any more unrepresentative than mine.

Since we're now getting a fair amount of interest, I suppose the two best choices are to 1: do a lottery with anybody who's expressed interest for the 8 spots, or 2: put all the interested parties up for a vote, and let everybody pick 8 choices for participation. I actually like H's suggestion, but for one thing, I'd prefer volunteers, and I'd also like to simplify the process a bit.

What say y'all?

Nic35 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:58:13 PM »

Lottery.

73109 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:59:41 PM »

I'm interested as well.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #27 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:59:46 PM »

Quote from: Nic35 on July 20, 2011, 08:58:13 PM

Lottery.

Lottery, and yeah, I'll try this too!

Jirpo · « **Reply #28 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:02:53 PM »

I'd rather do the 8 choices, but a lottery is cool too.

Jirpo · « **Reply #29 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:05:41 PM »

Sounds great! Get people that are interested in different sorts of music so we can have a varied list. Like get say Wolfking for a more metal list, LLTWM for prog, Sigz, Ravenheart etc. so that we get a varied list of songs. If I had to vote for 8 people:

Wolfking
LLTWM
Sigz
Ravenheart
UMH
Letters
KevShmev
Zantera

Just some ideas! I just think it would be more fun if we got people that would give us a wide range of songs, and the people I listed seem to have a fairly wide range of tastes.

Edit: I meant to post this above but I couldn't because people kept posting, then I forgot about it and was browsing in another tab

El Barto · « **Reply #30 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:23:36 PM »

Quote from: Jirpo on July 20, 2011, 09:05:41 PM

Sounds great! Get people that are interested in different sorts of music so we can have a varied list. Like get say Wolfking for a more metal list, LLTWM for prog, Sigz, Ravenheart etc. so that we get a varied list of songs. If I had to vote for 8 people:

Wolfking
LLTWM
Sigz
Ravenheart
UMH
Letters
KevShmev
Zantera

Just some ideas! I just think it would be more fun if we got people that would give us a wide range of songs, and the people I listed seem to have a fairly wide range of tastes.

Edit: I meant to post this above but I couldn't because people kept posting, then I forgot about it and was browsing in another tab

Ya know, I hate to be one of those kinds of people but as the instigator of this affair, I'm gonna be one of the participants.

And personally, I'd just as soon the participants not be picked based on their particular interest in music. I'm actually more interested in people with very broad tastes. If one guy makes a prog list, another makes a classic rock list, and another picks all country songs, what's the fun in that? Hell, we might as well just vote for our favorite genre's and be done with it.

Jirpo · « **Reply #31 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:28:13 PM »

Good point there!

Riceball · « **Reply #32 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:13:41 PM »

That's a really, really cool idea; I almost think you could run it as a bracket-type affair if you get, say 16+ people (which looks highly likely). Break it up into groups of four, who each pick 8 songs and then everyone except those in that bracket votes for the best, with the winner/s progressing depending on how you'd run it.

I'd be interested in being assistant commissioner of the DTMFL if the position was available

Ravenheart · « **Reply #33 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:29:36 PM »

I'm ready and willing.

Fair warning, though:

Quote from: LeeHarveyKennedy on July 20, 2011, 08:17:33 PM

You'll all hate my music

Ħ · « **Reply #34 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:32:24 PM »

Quote from: El Barto on July 20, 2011, 08:46:56 PM

Quote from: LeeHarveyKennedy on July 20, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
I'll do it. You'll all hate my music, but I'll do it.
Considering how my 3 attempts at participating in survivors went, your taste can't be any more unrepresentative than mine.

Since we're now getting a fair amount of interest, I suppose the two best choices are to 1: do a lottery with anybody who's expressed interest for the 8 spots, or 2: put all the interested parties up for a vote, and let everybody pick 8 choices for participation. I actually like H's suggestion, but for one thing, I'd prefer volunteers, and I'd also like to simplify the process a bit.

What say y'all?

Yeah, I think voting for volunteers is a better idea.

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Author Topic: The inaugural All Music Fantasy Draft (Read 14760 times)