Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS*

[bosk1]

Just went ahead and added a *SPOILER* tag to the thread title since, now that it is out, MOST posts will probably have spoilers.

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Shawarma!

[hefdaddy42]

Saw it again, this time in 3D.

It was better in 2D.  But still totally awesome.

Not sure if this will crack the Top 2 worldwide grosses, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it get to #3.  That looks totally reachable.

[bosk1]

Perhaps the one and only thing about the film that I can criticize:  What is the deal with Samuel L. Jackson.  Everyone knows the man can act (and anyone who begs to differ really should see 187).  But then he does the Star Wars prequels, and while his Mace Windu character is undeniably cool, you have to admit that his acting is horrendous in that role.  He sounds wooden and stiff, makes you feel like he is reading lines off a cue card and hasn't internalized any emotion for them whatsoever, and just isn't a believable character as a result.  I hoped that was purely a result of Lucas' inability to write intelligent lines, and was left in the past for Jackson.  I remember feeling like just a bit of that stiffness was there in some of the Nick Fury scenes in some of the Marvel films so far, but that he was mostly pretty good.  But the very first thing I noticed in The Avengers was that very same stilted lifelessness.  Although I loved the film as a whole, I was pretty disappointed in Jackson's portrayal of Nick Fury.

[chrisbDTM]

i have to say this is the only film where i really liked agent coulson (or "Son of Coul" as Thor calls him  ) I never really liked him in the other movies, but I enjoyed the Captain America obssession and him standing up to Loki in The Avengers. With that im not as sad as the general consensus is about his death. He's just an agent and him coming back to life in a future movie seems a little dumb to me. people die, and Whedon loves to show that

[zepp-head]

Actually Whedon recently admitted that that wasn't his idea.

[chrisbDTM]

Actually Whedon recently admitted that that wasn't his idea.

yea i remember reading it now, but i think he would keep him dead. Ive seen alot of people online with theories that coulson didn't actually die and will return later.

[jingle.boy]

I like the theory of him coming back as Vision.

[Adami]

I like the theory of him coming back as Vision.

Dude that would be awful. Not only would it ruin Coulsons characters, but also The Visions.


If he comes back, he better come back on a spaceship piloted by Wash.

[Adami]

And because this thread isn't just an Avengers thread, I figured I'd ask you guys what other Marvel movies you'd like to see Marvel Studios make and who you would cast in them.

For instance, I would love to see a Dr. Strange movie with Johnny Depp as Stephen.

Also would love to redo the FF with a better cast (though I can't imagine a better Thing). And would REALLY love a good, honest drama about my favorite Marvel character, Norrin Radd.

Ohhhhhh, also a Black Panther movie with the guy who played Mr. Eko from Lost, and of course an Ant/Giant Man movie with Nathan Fillion.


Your ideas? Or did I already do all of the good ones?

[Sigz]

Yeah, I'd love see a good FF movie.

[Adami]

Yeah, I'd love see a good FF movie.

Have fun with it, who would you cast? What would be the plot? Would there be boobs?

[Zantera]

A really good Fantastic Four would be cool, though the first had Jessica Alba, so the new one would need someone hot obviously.

[Dimitrius]

Ohhhhhh, also a Black Panther movie with the guy who played Mr. Eko from Lost

YES!!! I love this idea!!

A really good Fantastic Four would be cool, though the first had Jessica Alba, so the new one would need someone hot obviously.

A blonde, blue-eyed Alba which, IMO, made her completely lose her hotness. Though I've never found her to be that hot anyway.

[theseoafs]

agent coulson (or "Son of Coul" as Thor calls him  )

Oh my god, I didn't catch that.

[chrisbDTM]

agent coulson (or "Son of Coul" as Thor calls him  )

Oh my god, I didn't catch that.

very easy to miss. it's at the end of Thor

[Zantera]

Ohhhhhh, also a Black Panther movie with the guy who played Mr. Eko from Lost

YES!!! I love this idea!!

A really good Fantastic Four would be cool, though the first had Jessica Alba, so the new one would need someone hot obviously.

A blonde, blue-eyed Alba which, IMO, made her completely lose her hotness. Though I've never found her to be that hot anyway.

Well it wasn't her hottest movie, but if they made a new FF-movie, they would need someone equally hot. (or hotter) 

[chrisbDTM]

Olivia Wilde for Susan Storm!

[Adami]

Calm your hormones boys.

Who for Richard? What about Johnny?

Also, I think if Marvel got all of their rights back, then Spiderman should be in the FF movie.



Speaking of old web-head, I'm glad they're making him a sarcastic dick in the new movie. That really lacked in the last ones.

[Sigz]

My first instinct for Richard is Kevin Spacey.

[Zantera]

Yeah, new Spider-Man will be awesome.
To be honest I'm not really sure who I would like to see in a FF-movie. While I did read some of the comics, I don't feel expert enough to come up with good picks.

Kevin Spacey is really great, but perhaps a bit too old for the character? I dunno.

[Sigz]

That's true actually, I didn't think about how old he is by now.

[jingle.boy]

Julie Bowen for Sue Storm.  Will ponder on the others.

[Ryzee]

I actually thought the guy that already played Reed, along with Michael Chiklis as Ben Grimm of course, was pretty good casting.  It was just the movies they were in that sucked.

  Since I was mainly into the mutants when I was a kid, I'd love to see Marvel Studios get the rights to X-Men and all their spin-offs and start making proper X "family" movies they way they're doing w/ the Avengers "family."  Like start off with X-Men (Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Iceman & Angel), bring Logan & Storm into the mix, have the original team leave to form X-Factor, get some New Mutants going, bring in Cable and then lead into X-Force, etc.  And Prof. X could be like the Nick Fury of that series that ties it all together.  A boy can dream (sigh).

[King Postwhore]

Come on chant with me. "Secret Wars, Secret Wars, Secret Wars, Secret Wars!"

[Dimitrius]

I just wanna see a Ryan Reynold's R-rated Deadpool movie!

Also, would love to see a Cable appearance in any movie, better yet, a Cable & Deadpool movie! Like the comic series!

[Zantera]

I also read a lot of X-Men when I was younger, but I somehow doubt there would be a new Marvel re-launch of it, since we already have the initial 3 or 4 (?) movies and then First Class. One of my biggest let downs with the movies so far is that Gambit (one of my favorites from the show) hasn't been featured. I know he was part of the Wolverine-movie, but that role wasn't that big, and I would love to see more of the character.

[Ryzee]

Oh totally, but I thought we were just playing make believe?  Did I not mention that I'd be watching all of these good Marvel Studios X-Men movies on my private IMAX screen in my floating castle in the sky?  My bad.

[Adami]

Oh totally, but I thought we were just playing make believe?  Did I not mention that I'd be watching all of these good Marvel Studios X-Men movies on my private IMAX screen in my floating castle in the sky?  My bad.

We are, you're cool.

[hefdaddy42]

I would love to see a Dr. Strange movie 

Yes!  One is apparently in development with Marvel.

with Johnny Depp as Stephen

No, no, no.

[Zook]

I don't think X-Men needs a Marvel reboot, but if they did, who would they cast for Wolverine and Magneto? Huge Jackman and Ian McKellen own those roles. Then there's Professor X. I'm sure they could fine a fitting bald guy, but Patrick Stewart!

[Adami]

I don't think X-Men needs a Marvel reboot, but if they did, who would they cast for Wolverine and Magneto? Huge Jackman and Ian McKellen own those roles. Then there's Professor X. I'm sure they could fine a fitting bald guy, but Patrick Stewart!

They could easily find an unknown small person for Wolverine. And while I'd obviously miss Patrick and Ian, I think those roles should be cast with an American and a German respectively. As neither are supposed to be british.

[Dimitrius]

Just giving some love to Michael Fassbender, because his Magneto was awesome!

[Adami]

Just giving some love to Michael Fassbender, because his Magneto was awesome!

He really was. However I have a thing for accents. And he really should have kept a German accent. He sounded....American, not sure why.

[bosk1]

In other completely unrelated news...Avengers was awesome!

There were a few things that kind of bugged me that I think should have been worked out better.  Maybe this was all explained and I just didn't catch it the first time around, but...  the whole sequence of the attack on the SHIELD carrier bugged me.  I get that Barton & crew were able to trace the carrier because of Loki's staff.  However, why was the carrier mysteriously not cloaked when Barton's craft arrived?  They cloaked earlier.  If there was some sort of explanation as to why they were uncloaked when Barton arrived, I missed it.  Also, where were Barton and his ship/crew completely undetected?  Even aside from the fact that their approach and initial firing on the carrier went completely undetected, well into the attack, nobody in the carrier still had any idea whatsoever that they were there.  I get that they were busy, but to me, this could have (and should have) been through through a lot better.  Again, maybe there was a good explanation, and I just missed it because of everything that was going on.  But it just seemed like they dropped the ball and created a scene that left a lot of obvious unanswered questions.

A bit more minor, but I also think it should have taken a bit more than a mere knock on the noggin to release Barton from Loki's spell.  Would have been more believable if, for example, Black Widow knocked him unconscious, and Thor came over and said, "One of Loki's mind-control tricks.  Here is how to undo what Loki did and release his mind," and then Thor does something to Barton.

Overall, the movie was done so well that I hate to nitpick.  But then again, given the major effort that was put into details, details like these that seem unresolved seem silly to have overlooked.

[chrisbDTM]

i think they uncloaked to allow them to land, as they were carrying 'arms and ammunition'. very similar to Return of the Jedi except no Vader to sense who was actually aboard