Author Topic: Why is Repentance not liked much amongst DT fans? (Read 10233 times)

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #35 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:00:27 AM »

Great for a really long time, even if a bit on the long side, but the deep voice guy single-handedly ruins it.

wolfking · « **Reply #36 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:38:37 AM »

I never liked Repentance, it just never did anything for me. A big letdown of the whole suite.

TAC · « **Reply #37 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:47:18 AM »

I admire and respect the vision for Repentance, and I enjoy it if I am listening to the album in its entirety, which only happens on long trips. I rank it in my Bottom 10, though.

Bertielee · « **Reply #38 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:49:57 AM »

Because, except the solo, it's not good. IMHO of course.

B.Lee

TheGreatPretender · « **Reply #39 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:47:18 AM »

Quote from: Bertielee on July 15, 2011, 07:49:57 AM

Because, except the solo, it's not good. IMHO of course.

B.Lee

Yeah, but if your opinion is that it isn't good, and you don't elaborate, then that still doesn't answer the question of the topic.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #40 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:59:36 AM »

Funny how I love all the worst parts of SC. The second half of Repentance is great, it makes you feel as if he's not sure he's ready to go foward, which is why its long...after telling everyone of all the wrongs he's done, the ones he told it too are in awe after the spoken parts, then they pray, which then it ends with someone else in the group saying to be true and it'll set you free.

EpicCookie · « **Reply #41 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:27:52 AM »

I like it pretty much! But maybe that's because it has some kind of bass solo in it

tedy · « **Reply #42 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:36:27 AM »

I am glad that Twelve-Step Suite is over. Only The glass prison works for me and all other parts of suite are uninspired and unnecessary.
This dying soul, The root of all evil, Repentance, The shattered fortress + Constant motion and The dark eternal night are the worst songs in DT catalogue for me.

darkshade · « **Reply #43 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:38:25 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A4UaEhF1ko

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:45:51 AM »

I never got the impression that the song "wasn't liked" by a large segment of the DT fanbase.

However, I do think the song would be much, much better if both the intro and outro were shortened a bit, and the deep voice replaced by a different voice.

Still, it's one of the highlights of SC.

Shadow2222 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:38:50 AM »

By far it is Dream Theater's worst song. I'm very fanboyish to be honest, and even stuff like You Not Me, Constant Motion, Prophets of War, and WDADU are amazing to me.

But..... Repentance, I haven't listened to in over a year and I still have no desire to until I do my full album run before ADTOE comes out.

Tunnel Vision · « **Reply #46 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:50:16 AM »

Wow, I really enjoy Repentance...it is probably my second favorite song from SC. (Just behind ItPoE Pt. 1)

sonarc88 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:59:57 AM »

I think the song is great, the solo is one of DT's best. I also think that it is a good contrast to the other, more heavy songs of the suite.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:01:00 AM »

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on July 14, 2011, 08:43:43 PM

The first half is good, and the second half is completely unnecessary.

Why was the thread not closed after this post?

Banny · « **Reply #49 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:14:41 AM »

Quote from: Bombardana on July 15, 2011, 05:24:31 AM

The ending isn't long enough.

Fucking this.

Repentance is my second favorite of the the AA saga, second only to The Glass Prison which kicks the ass of most DT tunes.

Oh and I like the lowered voice in Repentance. Not in TSF.

lordxizor · « **Reply #50 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:18:24 AM »

Quote from: Mosh on July 14, 2011, 09:40:07 PM

Because it's incredibly boring.

This.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #51 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:31:37 AM »

"Repentance" is too long, but I can overlook that. What makes me not like it is, like some people above me, I find it very boring. It's quiet and soft, but it's not beautiful or anything like that. Like the rest of Systematic Chaos, I think, it's not that it's bad so much as there's an absence of good.

chrisbDTM · « **Reply #52 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:35:14 AM »

dat petrucci solo.

Moonchild · « **Reply #53 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:20:54 PM »

overlong is the word.

Adami · « **Reply #54 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:26:18 PM »

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on July 15, 2011, 11:01:00 AM

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on July 14, 2011, 08:43:43 PM
The first half is good, and the second half is completely unnecessary.

Why was the thread not closed after this post?

I'd assume because a good amount of people don't agree.

Dublagent66 · « **Reply #55 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:30:39 PM »

I think the JP solo saves it from being bad. Definitely the weakest out of the 5.

darkshot · « **Reply #56 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:36:55 PM »

I'd love the song if they shortened it a bit by taking out a lot of the redundant parts. The guitar solo is fantastic and by far my favorite part, but some parts of the song feel like filler.

Lowdz · « **Reply #57 on:** July 15, 2011, 04:05:21 PM »

I find it boring. It doesn't build to anything. And maybe it suffers by following two poor DT songs (or songs in a style I'm not a fan of) in CM and TDEN, and then comes PoW. A huge lull after two great opening tracks and two great ending tracks.

The suite songs haven't been favourites of mine on their respective albums so I hope I'm not there on the reunion tour when they play the whole thing.

JPX · « **Reply #58 on:** July 15, 2011, 04:17:24 PM »

Quote from: Mosh on July 14, 2011, 09:40:07 PM

Because it's incredibly boring.

This.

Plus it's part of the AA suite which up until the end of This Dying Soul is perfection. TROAE brings the quality down some then Repentance just kills it. I understand the suite needs a break but looping a boring clean section and trying to sound like Opeth isn't the answer.

I blame Mike 100% for this ugly song.

Zantera · « **Reply #59 on:** July 15, 2011, 06:11:38 PM »

One of the better songs on the album, and I have to agree with what many others have said.
First half is great, but then it just drags on for too long, and the voices gets annoying.

Jaq · « **Reply #60 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:15:54 PM »

Of all the AA suite, the only section I like less than Repentance is TROAE. TROAE always came off as some sort of rushed hybrid of the first two parts of the suite to me; of all the parts, it's the only one that feels perfunctory, as if the band almost approached it as "right, let's get this over with." That's probably just my impression of it, but there you have it. Repentance's primary flaw is it is far too long, with a second half that could lose 90 seconds and still get the same point across. It also doesn't help that it sounds more like Opeth than Dream Theater, which doesn't help when its on a CD that features the band doing yet another Muse impersonation. Repentance is the closest thing to self-indulgent in the entire suite IMO.

Mbarak · « **Reply #61 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:39:00 PM »

This song is strange. I never feel like I want to listen to it, as in I never think "OMG must listen now!". But when I do (because of someone's suggestion or just to go through the whole album/AA suite) I kinda get into it and don't really find it a bore.

The same thing with TSF

Jaffa · « **Reply #62 on:** July 16, 2011, 09:36:46 AM »

Quote from: Jaffa on July 08, 2011, 05:26:11 PM

Hate to use a cliche phrase, but that song really drags on. The section of spoken apologies takes too long, and the instrumental section takes even longer. A lot of great DT songs don't feel as long as they are, because they're so fun to listen to that the long time flies by - this song is the opposite for me. It feels much, much longer than it is.

Infinite Cactus · « **Reply #63 on:** July 17, 2011, 07:25:09 PM »

I just feel like its not as interesting. I like the intro and outro the most. Not big on the verses thought. I actually think it would have been cool to just have the intro go directly into the spoken word parts, and then the aahs in the outro.

BRGM · « **Reply #64 on:** July 17, 2011, 07:46:40 PM »

I love repentance, at first I thought it was veeery boring...but after a while I came to notice I was wrong, the song is great and fun to play on guitar, and the solo is teriffic, terrific...oh well, I enjoy the song though

Super Dude · « **Reply #65 on:** July 17, 2011, 08:28:08 PM »

I don't really mind the song but I don't particularly care for it. I'll listen to it if shuffle offers it, but I won't seek it out.

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #66 on:** July 17, 2011, 09:27:02 PM »

I love the song except the last line almost ruins it for me. I can't remember what it is but it sounds like it is a cold read off of a sheet of paper. No emotion. Doesn't sound genuine.

Odd that Mike didn't apologize for anything on that song.

Super Dude · « **Reply #67 on:** July 17, 2011, 09:30:41 PM »

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on July 17, 2011, 09:27:02 PM

I love the song except the last line almost ruins it for me. I can't remember what it is but it sounds like it is a cold read off of a sheet of paper. No emotion. Doesn't sound genuine.

Odd that Mike didn't apologize for anything on that song.

See I think you're missing the point; the song is his apology.

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #68 on:** July 17, 2011, 09:42:33 PM »

No, i got it. It's just a vague apology.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #69 on:** July 17, 2011, 09:58:16 PM »

He already apoligized when he went through this step. The voices give off exactly what step 9 is about.

I admire this song because the atmosphere fits steps 8 and 9, writing down your list, and then going out wherever to make those amends (Kinda like My Name Is Earl).

Also, Can't forget the little owow's during the amends.

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Author Topic: Why is Repentance not liked much amongst DT fans? (Read 10233 times)