Author Topic: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One (Read 461339 times)

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #3955 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:52:53 AM »

Not meaning to beat a dead horse on the Rey/saber handling question but her abilities didn't seem crazy far fetched to me. I mean, she exhibited some really good staff wielding skills earlier in the movie. Add to that, her awakening force abilities. Plus, like others have mentioned, Ren didn't exactly come across as a saber master.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #3956 on:** July 22, 2016, 12:32:14 PM »

Star Wars Episode 8 has officially wrapped principal photography.

18 months to go

kaos2900 · « **Reply #3957 on:** July 22, 2016, 02:04:27 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on July 22, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Star Wars Episode 8 has officially wrapped principal photography.

18 months to go

It's going to be long wait.

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #3958 on:** July 22, 2016, 02:07:32 PM »

Quote from: kaos2900 on July 22, 2016, 02:04:27 PM

Quote from: Kotowboy on July 22, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
Star Wars Episode 8 has officially wrapped principal photography.

18 months to go

It's going to be long wait.

Nah.... Rogue One is coming in between that and (at least for me) the friggin' years are flying by...I mean, it's essentially F'n August already this year...WTF?.....it'll feel like tomorrow when I'm sitting in the theater watching Episode 8

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3959 on:** July 22, 2016, 09:25:22 PM »

I don't care about the wait for Ep 8 at all. I'm still looking forward to Rogue One for the moment. Looking great so far.

Adami · « **Reply #3960 on:** July 23, 2016, 12:20:44 AM »

Yea, pretty pumped for Rogue One.

I'm wondering though, since they're making one every year, do you think they'll stop being special? At some point I'll feel like we'll just go "Yea that rocked....so when's the next one?" Rather than really savoring the one we just saw.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3961 on:** July 23, 2016, 12:29:10 AM »

That was my biggest concern when they first announced their strategy of a movie every year, but so far at least I think they realize the importance of keeping the quality high. How long can they continue to put out a movie every year, and keep it special without people taking it for granted? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #3962 on:** July 24, 2016, 06:33:43 AM »

At the very least, I get the sense that Rogue One is shaping up to be perhaps the best looking Star Wars film to date, between all the practical effects and gorgeous locations.

kaos2900 · « **Reply #3963 on:** July 25, 2016, 07:00:28 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 23, 2016, 12:29:10 AM

That was my biggest concern when they first announced their strategy of a movie every year, but so far at least I think they realize the importance of keeping the quality high. How long can they continue to put out a movie every year, and keep it special without people taking it for granted? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I think as long as the films stay good then the demand will be there. Plus, if they get them done earlier enough they'll have plenty of time to build up hype. I mean Episode 8 is done filming and it won't be released for almost 18 months.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #3964 on:** July 26, 2016, 05:32:06 AM »

It's funny that people are shocked how much Harrison Ford got paid for TFA compared to the new actors.

You don't get a $20m+ salary for your first ever movie.

Cool Chris · « **Reply #3965 on:** July 26, 2016, 02:58:54 PM »

Having Ford in that movie brought in more than $20 mill in additional box office so I am sure Disney didn't think more than a second about that contract.

kaos2900 · « **Reply #3966 on:** July 27, 2016, 06:43:51 AM »

Sounds like Disney is planning on having mulitple young Han Solo films.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #3967 on:** July 27, 2016, 10:39:53 AM »

Quote from: kaos2900 on July 27, 2016, 06:43:51 AM

Sounds like Disney is planning on having mulitple young Han Solo films.

YAWN.

Which will reveal everything about him that didn't need revealing. . .

Kotowboy · « **Reply #3968 on:** July 27, 2016, 11:48:09 AM »

How Han won the Millennium Falcon !

How Han knows Jabba The Hut !

How Han got his blaster !!

How Han met Chewie and why they're so close !!

They'll take all the mystery out of his character.

- mind you - I know fuck all about the EU - it may all have been revealed in books / comic already....

TioJorge · « **Reply #3969 on:** July 27, 2016, 12:19:40 PM »

The only reason I'd like to see more is to see more of the SW universe in earlier days. That's about the only thing I really like about SW these days is the actual environments, planets, lore and such. Other than that...yeah, that seems like nothing more than a cash grab. Which is nothing new, but it does tarnish the name a bit right when they're building that very same thing back up from what it's been for quite some time.

Scorpion · « **Reply #3970 on:** July 27, 2016, 12:25:35 PM »

Here's something really cool I stumbled across yesterday: it's Episodes 1 through 6, condensed into 99 seconds, a capella, by a super talented dude.

Paint - Star Wars in 99 seconds

Orbert · « **Reply #3971 on:** July 27, 2016, 01:23:56 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on July 27, 2016, 11:48:09 AM

How Han won the Millennium Falcon !

How Han knows Jabba The Hut !

How Han got his blaster !!

How Han met Chewie and why they're so close !!

There are all potentially good stories.

bosk1 · « **Reply #3972 on:** July 27, 2016, 07:15:55 PM »

Quote from: TioJorge on July 27, 2016, 12:19:40 PM

The only reason I'd like to see more is to see more of the SW universe in earlier days. That's about the only thing I really like about SW these days is the actual environments, planets, lore and such. Other than that...yeah, that seems like nothing more than a cash grab. Which is nothing new, but it does tarnish the name a bit right when they're building that very same thing back up from what it's been for quite some time.

Yeah, but at the end of the day, if it's done well, who cares if it is a cash grab? If it works, and we get to see some good movies, I don't really mind helping fund their cash grab. In fact, I'll gladly do so.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #3973 on:** July 27, 2016, 07:21:02 PM »

When isn't most big budget movies a cash grab? That's never been a reason for me to see or not to see a movie.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3974 on:** July 27, 2016, 11:07:49 PM »

At the top of the ladder, sure releasing a Star Wars movie every year is a cash grab for Disney. They didn't spend 4 billion dollars on Star Wars to not make money from it.

However, most of the people working on these movies is a passionate Star Wars fan who grew up with these movies, and doesn't want them to suck any more than we do. To these young actors, it's not a cash grab. It's an amazing opportunity to be part of a beloved franchise and prove themselves. To the set builders who recreated the Millennium Falcon in full scale down to the smallest detail, it's not a cash grab. It's a fanboy's dream.
I think Disney knows that the best way to milk money from the franchise is to keep the quality high, which makes for a win-win situation.

Adami · « **Reply #3975 on:** July 27, 2016, 11:09:35 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 27, 2016, 07:21:02 PM

When isn't most big budget movies a cash grab? That's never been a reason for me to see or not to see a movie.

I would just differentiate between the mindset of "Let's make a great movie that will make lots of money" and "Let's just make lots of money on whatever this thing is"

Star Wars and the Marvel movies definitely feel like the first mindset, and Transformers and the like feel like the second.

ariich · « **Reply #3976 on:** July 27, 2016, 11:57:07 PM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 27, 2016, 11:07:49 PM

I think Disney knows that the best way to milk money from the franchise is to keep the quality high, which makes for a win-win situation.

Absolutely, and they've proven it with Marvel and Pixar already.

Zantera · « **Reply #3977 on:** July 28, 2016, 02:48:20 AM »

Everyone wants to make a great movie, because especially in franchise-potential IPs, if you make a great movie, you'll not only make money on that one, but on future sequels, prequels and spin offs as well. I think the problem/difference between something like the Star Wars universe and the Transformers universe is the people in charge. Michael Bay put out the first one and it made a lot of money, so ever since then, he has been offered to come back because they know his movies make the money. Disney have mapped out the next 50 years of Star Wars movies and they know that they have to make their movies great, or otherwise a lot of potential moneymakers in the future won't be made because they screwed up their own cinematic universe. With something like Transformers, the stakes are not as high. If Transformers 5 flops, or whenever Michael Bay is done with it, they can just go back to the drawing board and maybe have a different take on it.

bosk1 · « **Reply #3978 on:** July 28, 2016, 07:48:48 AM »

Quote from: Zantera on July 28, 2016, 02:48:20 AM

Everyone wants to make a great movie

I think this is mostly true. But there is a difference between merely "wanting" to make a great movie on one hand, versus being confident in the ability to deliver the best product possible and coupling that with all available human and monetary resources to pull it off. Yeah, if asked, most would say they want to make good movies and wouldn't admit they want to make something that sucks. But there are lots of levels of desire, ability, and understanding of how to do that in a way that will be meaningful to fans. I think Disney gets it on every level and has made a commitment to deliver.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #3979 on:** July 28, 2016, 08:05:24 AM »

I agree with pretty much everything that's been written on this page. Yes, the Star Wars films are ultimately a cash grab for Disney, but Disney also understands that it's really import they make awesome movies, and so they're hiring amazing people to make them that have their heart in it for the right reasons. It probably won't always be this way, but at least for now, it kind of seems like everyone is winning (the fans, the studio, and the various creative teams).

Orbert · « **Reply #3980 on:** July 28, 2016, 10:20:12 AM »

It may not always be this way, but it pretty much always has been, and I don't see that changing. Basically everybody alive today grew up with Disney movies, be they animated features or live-action, musicals, whatever, and I've always considered them very high quality. Sure, you get to a certain age where you see how cheesey it is sometimes, or you feel like you're too old for the kiddie stuff or "feel good" stuff, but it's always high quality stuff. I really don't see that changing at all.

Adami · « **Reply #3981 on:** August 11, 2016, 11:06:48 PM »

Newest Rogue One trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frdj1zb9sMY

Wow. This looks incredible. Some of the visuals are just so god damn beautiful that I'm in awe.

However, after Suicide Squad, I've become a bit more suspicious of amazing looking trailers.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3982 on:** August 11, 2016, 11:23:25 PM »

Again, looking great to me. Hopefully the story holds up to the rest.

Nefarius · « **Reply #3983 on:** August 12, 2016, 03:46:15 AM »

Rogue One seemed to be extremely promising to me right since the first teaser.
It may very well be a new hope (sorry

) for the first good movie in the franchise since 1983.

Greetings...
Nef

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3984 on:** August 12, 2016, 03:49:35 AM »

If you didn't like TFA, I'm not sure Rogue One will fare any better. Even though it's not JJ, it's still going to be from the same school of modern Hollywood film making.

Personally, I do expect this will be a better film overall than TFA though.

Logain Ablar · « **Reply #3985 on:** August 12, 2016, 05:44:57 AM »

The trailer was great! I think I'm looking forward to this more than I was for TFA..

The new characters look good (great choice for Mon Mothma!), and the design of the ships and vehicles was spot on. I hope they give Vader more screen time than just a brief cameo.

kaos2900 · « **Reply #3986 on:** August 12, 2016, 06:42:00 AM »

Trailer was amazing. Had goosebumps by the end. Can't wait!

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #3987 on:** August 12, 2016, 12:07:27 PM »

Big weekend for my kiddos. I bought the Prequel Trilogy today....gonna watch one movie a night starting tonight. I recently started watching CLONE WARS on Netflix with my two oldest and they've had a ton of questions and have never seen the Prequels.

I was trying to recall when the last time I watched any one of them was and it was easily 10 years ago....probably longer. I'm going to go into it with a 'fresh' outlook and see if I've judged them too harshly.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3988 on:** August 12, 2016, 12:09:36 PM »

Spoiler alert: You have not judged them too harshly. They're just bad.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #3989 on:** August 12, 2016, 12:12:35 PM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 12, 2016, 12:09:36 PM

Spoiler alert: You have not judged them too harshly. They're just bad.

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