Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[King Postwhore]

Some people prefer the prequels to the original trilogy.

No. No! That's not true! That's umpossible!

I read this as Ralphie Wiggum.

[Kotowboy]

I need to see the original 3 again. They all blur together in my mind. Need to be reminded why Empire is so good and Jedi is not that great.

[Kotowboy]

Some people prefer the prequels to the original trilogy.

No. No! That's not true! That's umpossible!

I read this as Ralphie Wiggum.

I like Siths now

[bosk1]

I need to see the original 3 again. They all blur together in my mind. Need to be reminded why Empire is so good and Jedi is not that great.

Mainly because Ewoks.  I think had the battle of Endor not take a bit of a turn for the silly, many more people would hold Jedi up on equal par with Empire.

[gmillerdrake]

Mainly because Ewoks.  I think had the battle of Endor not take a bit of a turn for the silly, many more people would hold Jedi up on equal par with Empire.

pretty much that. the 'silly' aspect that Bosk1 refers to is what keeps Jedi from attaining Empire status in my book.....

[King Postwhore]

Completely agree.

[Kotowboy]

If Disney do indeed release original theatrical cuts on Blu Ray - i'll probably get them.

But they need to be remastered and widescreen if at all possible.




EDIT : Disney *must* know that they'll make a FORTUNE if they release the original theatrical versions but cleaned up etc. A FORTUNE. All the Special Editions will go immediately on eBay

[bosk1]

If they have the theatrical versions, and if there is nothing in the contract about what they can do with them, I would be shocked if they do not get re-released at some point in the near future.

[Kotowboy]

I heard that they can do what they want with Empire & Jedi but Fox owns the rights to A New Hope.

I'm sure Disney can afford to buy them with the money they've made from TFA.

[King Postwhore]

I have been waiting my whole life for a version that is the original and is widescreen and 5.1.

[Kotowboy]

I'd gladly get those and TFA onwards.

[hefdaddy42]

I need to see the original 3 again. They all blur together in my mind. Need to be reminded why Empire is so good and Jedi is not that great.

Mainly because Ewoks.  I think had the battle of Endor not take a bit of a turn for the silly, many more people would hold Jedi up on equal par with Empire.

That's it exactly.  Ewoks bring it down.

[Zantera]

The ewoks is such a small part of 6 that it doesn't really bother me that much, but it's not as good as Empire, that's for sure. Still, the end lightsaber duel between Luke and Vader is my favorite in the franchise and that finale more than enough makes up for weaker moments.

[Orbert]

I've never understood the Ewok hate, actually.  They're funny and silly, but in true sci-fi fashion, they have their own society and culture, and they organize to help fight the bad guys.  They brought some levity to things.

I have been waiting my whole life for a version that is the original and is widescreen and 5.1.

5.1 would be cool, but if you want a presentation completely true to the original theatrical version, it would be Dolby Stereo.  There was no 5.1 at the time.  They'd have to synthesize it, or remaster it from existing elements (if the multitracks even still exist -- I don't know how it works with movies).

My system has several modes, including 7.1/5.1, "Enhanced Surround" (synthesized surround from a stereo soundtrack), and "Multi-Stereo".  "Multi-Stereo" assigns all Left speakers (front, rear, surround) to the Left channel and all Right speakers (front, rear, surround) to the Right channel, while sending a combined mono to the Center and Subwoofer.  Regular FM radio, iPod, and vinyl all sound pretty great this way, and this is also the setting I use for older movies with 2.0 (stereo) soundtracks.

People would whine about buying Blu-rays with "only 2.0" soundtracks, but even if they cook up 5.1 soundtracks for them, they should at least offer 2.0 as an option.  I'm pretty sure that that was the original presentation.

[bosk1]

I've never understood the Ewok hate, actually.  They're funny and silly, but in true sci-fi fashion, they have their own society and culture, and they organize to help fight the bad guys.  They brought some levity to things.

I'm not sure that it is "hate"--at least, not from me.  But the fact that the Battle of Endor did take on a silly, lighthearted tone that made it less serious, and the fact that the Ewoks were a big part of the reason why (but not the only reason--Chewbacca Tarzan yell, I'm looking at you!), takes it down a notch for me.  Not enough to ruin the film by any stretch, but definitely enough to put it below Empire instead of at the same level.  If you wanna call that "hate," I think you are overstating the point.

EDIT:  Same thing with what was added to Jabba's palace.  It went from "Jabba is gangsta and is running things, and like any boss, he can have in-house entertainment nonstop" to "let's do a big musical number, Star Wars style!," which I don't think ANYBODY outside of Lucas has ever felt worked well.

[King Postwhore]

Orbert, You'd think they could still make a 5.1 like they do with older albums.  Look at what Steven Wilson did with Yes Fragile.  I hope they could release that at some point.

[TioJorge]

You foolish ingrates underestimate the Ewoks.






You will pay for this. Ewoks are the inheritors of the omniverse.

[King Postwhore]

They also double as a rag to wax my car.

[TioJorge]

Little do you know this is all apart of the plan to get King to spread Ewok semen all over his car, attracting our alpha females. YOUR HEAD WILL SOON BE BITTEN OFF AFTER COPIOUS FORNICATION OF INTENSE PLEASURE.

[King Postwhore]

Their trouble, like Tribbles.

[Sub Luna Vitrea]

I actually loved the Ewoks, but I think the performance out of all of three main actors, with the possible exception of Carrie Fisher, was just insincere. I think it was poorly directed, and compared to The Empire Strikes Back, it's night and day.

[TioJorge]

Their trouble, like Tribbles.

You're a tribble...

[gmillerdrake]

I actually loved the Ewoks, but I think the performance out of all of three main actors, with the possible exception of Carrie Fisher, was just insincere. I think it was poorly directed, and compared to The Empire Strikes Back, it's night and day.

rumor has it there was a severe case of fleas on the set of Jedi due to rampant unprotected sex between the Ewoks....it even forced Hamill to shave his head at one point....he had a sweet spot for the Calico mother.....

[TioJorge]

Gman knows what I'm talking about.

No one can resist dat Ewok ass.



NO ONE.


Another rumor says that the only thing in the universe that the force cannot work on...is Ewok fever.

[hefdaddy42]

I've never understood the Ewok hate, actually.  They're funny and silly, but in true sci-fi fashion, they have their own society and culture, and they organize to help fight the bad guys.  They brought some levity to things.

I'm not sure that it is "hate"--at least, not from me.  But the fact that the Battle of Endor did take on a silly, lighthearted tone that made it less serious, and the fact that the Ewoks were a big part of the reason why (but not the only reason--Chewbacca Tarzan yell, I'm looking at you!), takes it down a notch for me.  Not enough to ruin the film by any stretch, but definitely enough to put it below Empire instead of at the same level.  If you wanna call that "hate," I think you are overstating the point.

EDIT:  Same thing with what was added to Jabba's palace.  It went from "Jabba is gangsta and is running things, and like any boss, he can have in-house entertainment nonstop" to "let's do a big musical number, Star Wars style!," which I don't think ANYBODY outside of Lucas has ever felt worked well.

It's like you are thinking my thoughts.

[bosk1]

Well, dear, that is common when you are in a relationship this long.

[TioJorge]

I see how it is. One second of spotlight on the Ewoks and it's back to you two and your BEAUTIFUL relationship. It's always like this. Bullshit.

[bosk1]

[Podaar]

 

[King Postwhore]

OH SNAP! !!

[Kotowboy]

   




Trapped Inside This Jorge-o-varium !!!

[TheOutlawXanadu]

When I re-watched the original trilogy a couple of months back, I actually found it kind of jarring how radical the shift in tone was from Empire to Jedi. Empire is this dark, gut punch of a film, and then like five minutes into Jedi there's a pig hippo and a dude who looks like Majin Buu.

[Zantera]

To be honest I think the new trilogy will follow the original fairly close tone-wise. Ep 8 will be the dark one where shit gets real, Ep 9 will be the triumphant one.

[King Postwhore]

To be honest I think the new trilogy will follow the original fairly close tone-wise. Ep 8 will be the dark one where shit gets real, Ep 9 will be the triumphant one.

How could it not?

[bosk1]

Pretty standard 3 act story arc.