Author Topic: What makes an album excellent?  (Read 4002 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline setrataeso

  • Setlist Archivist
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3765
  • Gender: Male
  • I probably don't like you
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2011, 08:18:15 PM »
Yes, yes it was...and You Not Me is an awesome song, btw. :P

It's ok. It's not as godawful as Just Let Me Breathe.
NEW REVIEW: Lady Gaga - Born This Way
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=25343.0

Setra, I think that is the best statement I have read on this forum.  Very well said.

Offline 73109

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4999
  • Gender: Male
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2011, 08:32:31 PM »
Yeah, that song is pretty bad.

Offline RuRoRul

  • Posts: 1668
  • Gender: Male
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2011, 08:39:03 PM »
This is a good hypothetical question... I guess I'd make a distinction between how good I judge an album to be (e.g. if I was doing some sort of ranking list thing) and how good it is to get a certain album. Compare an album of just 5 songs, all amazing, to one with 20 songs, 10 of them amazing (on par or better than the 5) and the other 10 really bad. Obviously the second option is better because instead of 5 amazing songs you have 10, but if the second album is half bad I would still count that against it if I had to say which is better. How much they count it against it varies though - change them to 10 songs of average quality and I might still say the second album's better overall, even though the average quality is technically lower.

But as a whole, unrealistic examples aside, I absolutely do think having great songs makes up for having some not so great songs, that an album being too long isn't really a valid criticism for me (unless taken to ridiculous levels where it becomes incredibly difficult to get to know every song), and that an album flowing well or being good to listen to all the way through is a bonus that doesn't automatically make it better than an album of excellent songs, and that counts for very little if there are no great songs on the album.

Offline Zook

  • Evil Incarnate
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 14160
  • Gender: Male
  • Take My Hand
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2011, 08:42:30 PM »
I'm gonna go with the "when all the songs are good and there's no filler" answer.

Having half an album of great songs and half with shit does not make a excellent album however good the great half actually is.

Offline setrataeso

  • Setlist Archivist
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3765
  • Gender: Male
  • I probably don't like you
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2011, 08:50:57 PM »
All Killer No Filler



...is an awesome album.
NEW REVIEW: Lady Gaga - Born This Way
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=25343.0

Setra, I think that is the best statement I have read on this forum.  Very well said.

Offline Zook

  • Evil Incarnate
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 14160
  • Gender: Male
  • Take My Hand
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2011, 08:53:03 PM »
All Killer No Filler



...is an awesome album.

Funny, I was going to say "All killer no filler" in my post.

Offline setrataeso

  • Setlist Archivist
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3765
  • Gender: Male
  • I probably don't like you
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2011, 08:56:48 PM »
I was actually just listening to that album today.
I still love it as much as I did 8 years ago.
NEW REVIEW: Lady Gaga - Born This Way
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=25343.0

Setra, I think that is the best statement I have read on this forum.  Very well said.

Offline SPNKr

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2390
  • Gender: Male
Re: What makes an album excellent?
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2011, 06:25:38 AM »
Well shit, this thread basically asks what makes an excellent rock album. Doesn't apply to many many many other genres around. What a waste of time.