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An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« on: June 08, 2011, 07:53:47 AM »
Preso d'ispirazione dai due utenti polacchi che di tanto in tanto postano nella loro lingua, e visto che qui ci sono un paio di italiani che scrivono (Wastland piuttosto di frequente, e mi pare di aver visto anche RudessSolo) provo a far partire questo thread "speciale", che funzioni come una specie di sottoforum, dove si parli dei Dream in generale, e in Italiano. Perchè questo?. Ad esempio perchè dreamtheaterforums.org è di sicuro il sito più aggiornato, più partecipato, e che più velocemente recepisce news, se non altro per l'alto numero di utenti scritti, e per la vicinanza di alcuni di questi alla band o al suo management. Perchè in vista del tour estivo le prime date saranno proprio italiane, e sarebbe bello poter condividere con utenti da tutto il modo impressioni/foto/video dei concerti. E' una prova, non è detto che funzioni e che gli amministratori del forum non spostino il thread o lo chiudano. Quindi, se potete, rispondete in fretta, in modo da far vedere che può funzionare.

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Since dreamtheaterforums.org is an international forum, here we used to talk in english. This is surely the best way to enable everyone to take part into conversations. But is a fact that non english speaking users may have problems in writing and understanding what we are saying here. So, as an italian user, i would like to have a little space where we can actually translate main news from the forum in our language, to discuss them and eventually to give our first impressions about the first two concert in Italy, the very first with Mike Mangini, sharing photos and videos. This would likely bring new users to the forum, giving it a more "international" profile. So, here we are, or at least, here i am, waiting for italian users reactions and to ear what you think about it, if it's the case to mantein it, or to move it in another part of the forum.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 09:56:27 AM »
A me va bene, è sempre bello ritrovare i propri compatrioti in terra straniera  :)

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 10:26:20 AM »
I can picture your avatar speaking in Italian  :rollin

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 10:28:45 AM »
Wasteland, prova a dirlo anche a qualcuno degli utenti di IV, se venissero a postare qui di tanto in tanto non sarebbe male.
Comunque, tu vai ad uno dei due concerti a Luglio?

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 10:50:44 AM »
Wasteland, prova a dirlo anche a qualcuno degli utenti di IV, se venissero a postare qui di tanto in tanto non sarebbe male.
Comunque, tu vai ad uno dei due concerti a Luglio?

Lo farò, sperando che l'amministratore non lo prenda per un tentativo di sottrarre utenza al forum! XD

Per quanto riguarda il concerto di luglio, purtroppo (e non sai quanto mi dispiace, visto che non ho mai avuto modo di presenziare ad un loro concerto) non ci potrò essere. Il 13 ho un esame universitario molto impegnativo, e inoltre il tutto mi verrebbe a costare quasi trecento euro. Vivere in Sardegna spesso causa problemi...

@rene: ahaha, actually mangini has a lot of the gesture which are often found in italian-americans. But believe me, most of the italians nowadays are nowhere as weird and funny while talking as he is.
Oh.. emh... There's something I'd like to know: assuming that you are english-speaking, how much of what we just wrote in italian you managed to understand (or somehow grasp the meaning) ? Just a curiosity of mine  :lol
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 11:09:03 AM »
I can picture your avatar speaking in Italian  :rollin

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 11:11:14 AM »
Sorry, I speak Spanish so I think I understand a little bit more than english-speakers: "I'll do it, hoping that the admins (something about them intending something) close the thread".

Regarding the concert in July, I can't go (and it really disgusts me, since I have not bein able to go to any concert of theirs). I have a very important exam at the university, and the other my (I don´t know what) will cost almost 300 euros. Living in Serdena causes problems sometimes..."

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 11:13:06 AM »
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Lo farò, sperando che l'amministratore non lo prenda per un tentativo di sottrarre utenza al forum! XD

Spero proprio di no, non è quello l'obiettivo.

Mi spiace tu non riesca ad esserci, comunque dovrebbero tornare poi in inverno per il tour di supporto al nuovo disco, visto che a Settembre faranno la prima leg americana. Chissà quale sarà la reazione, sia a luglio sia al disco nuovo, da questo dipenderà molto come verrà impostato poi il tour europeo e il numero di date in Italia (considerati i numeri scarsi di Bologna Roma e appena appena discreti di Milano del PN09 temo non rifaranno 4 date).


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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 11:32:33 AM »
@reneranucci: you nailed almost everything, that's really impressive!  :omg: However, Sardegna is "Sardinia" in english (but indeed Cerdena in spanish!)
I'm curious to see if other users (driven here out of curiosity  ::) ) can figure out something. The idea came to me while I was reading TheSilentCody's posts in polish and not being able to understand a single word  :lol

@DreamerTV: lo spero anche io...
In ogni caso, per il concerto, moltiplicherò gli sforzi per il "tour massiccio" che pare profilarsi per l'anno prossimo. Se, come spero, vedremo concerti più lunghi del recente passato, varrà ancor di più la pena di provare ad esserci. Comunque, penso che a questo giro avremo 3 date: Roma, Milano e una terza città scelta fra quelle che normalmente girano: Firenze, Bologna, o magari è la buona volta scendono anche al sud...  Intanto, godiamoci i concerti imminenti: di sicuro saranno registrati e saremo in grado di provare al mondo quanto saranno stati bravi gli spettatori italiani a dare il benvenuto a Mike Mangini  ;)
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 02:07:06 PM »
Ho studiato italiano a scuola per tre anni. Amerei parlare l'italiano più, dunque mi piace l'idea di questo thread. Mi dispiace nell'advace per il mio parlare terribile.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 05:53:33 PM »
Ehi, tranquillo, non è per niente male il tuo italiano!
Cool, your italian isn't bad at all!

We'll translate all, or part of, our posts here in english, so maybe you'll learn something new!

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 09:01:46 PM »
uhh.......spaghetti

but seriously I do like this idea

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 06:15:34 AM »
There seems to be some kind of popoular consensus towards this thread. That's great, I love the idea of our common passion for Dream Theater being the trigger for some degree of cultural interaction! if things carry on well some may even be made aware of what a "pepperoni pizza" is supposed to be (and yet is not :biggrin: )

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Sembra che ci sia un certo consenso popolare nei confronti di questa discussione. È una gran cosa, trovo splendida l'idea che la nostra comune passione vero di Dream possa essere il punto di partenza per promuovere l'interazione culturale fra le varie anime nazionali dell'utenza. Se le cose andranno nel verso giusto alcuni potrebbero addirittura scoprire che cosa in teoria dovrebbe essere una "pizza ai peperoni" (e quanto sia diverso da quello che in realtà è fuori dall'Italia).  :biggrin:
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 08:14:02 AM »
E' una cosa che ho sempre provato a proporre da un paio d'anni a questa parte, quando ancora frequentavo un forum italiano. E' surreale pensare che quando i mezzi erano più limitati i fanclub riusciessero ad avere rapporti tra loro e oggi no, o almeno così sembra. Questo non è un fanclub, ovviamente, ma potrebbe comunque rappresentare un punto d'incontro più ampio. Nel frattempo ho chiesto a bosk1 di poter spostare il thread nella sezione sticky topic, in modo da tenerla visibile e non farla sparire tra i numerosi thread aperti giornalmente. Vedremo.

It's something i've always tried to suggest since a couple of years, when i used to post in an italian forum. It's surreal that when media were limitated fanclubs would have cooperate much more than now, at least it seems. This is not a fanclub, but it would likely rapresent a wider common place. Meanwhile i've asked Bosk1 to move the thread in the Sticky Topic section, to give it a certain visibility and to not lose it among all the other threads. We'll see...

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 11:28:59 AM »
Ci sono anche io che faccio parte di italian voices
I know talking english a little bit but I'm not a genious...I can say something simple.

Anyway I'm very excited about new dream theater album and I can't wait to hear it.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2011, 11:39:44 AM »
Well, I just want to take the opportunity to say "welcome!" to the Italian DT fans on this site.  I've been talking to DreamerTV (at least, I think it was him) about the Italian DT boards for awhile now.  Cool thread.  The only issue is, since it is in a language the mod staff don't understand, if people start reporting posts, I don't really have the ability to say whether they violate the rules or not, so I will have no choice but to lock the thread.  Hopefully, it doesn't get to that point.  Anyhow, cheers, everyone!
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2011, 11:45:26 AM »
Thread title looked like "Italian Dressing on Bread" on first glance. Now I'm hungry :sadpanda:
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2011, 12:31:14 PM »
Well, I just want to take the opportunity to say "welcome!" to the Italian DT fans on this site.  I've been talking to DreamerTV (at least, I think it was him) about the Italian DT boards for awhile now.  Cool thread.  The only issue is, since it is in a language the mod staff don't understand, if people start reporting posts, I don't really have the ability to say whether they violate the rules or not, so I will have no choice but to lock the thread.  Hopefully, it doesn't get to that point.  Anyhow, cheers, everyone!

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Ci sono anche io che faccio parte di italian voices
I know talking english a little bit but I'm not a genious...I can say something simple.

Anyway I'm very excited about new dream theater album and I can't wait to hear it.
   

Ehi, Clairvoyant, benvenuto! Sarai ad una delle due date dei Dream in Italia a Luglio?.
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Ehi,Clairvoyant, welcome! Will you be at one of the two DT concerts in July?

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2011, 01:23:47 PM »
Well, I just want to take the opportunity to say "welcome!" to the Italian DT fans on this site.  I've been talking to DreamerTV (at least, I think it was him) about the Italian DT boards for awhile now.  Cool thread.  The only issue is, since it is in a language the mod staff don't understand, if people start reporting posts, I don't really have the ability to say whether they violate the rules or not, so I will have no choice but to lock the thread.  Hopefully, it doesn't get to that point.  Anyhow, cheers, everyone!

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Ci sono anche io che faccio parte di italian voices
I know talking english a little bit but I'm not a genious...I can say something simple.

Anyway I'm very excited about new dream theater album and I can't wait to hear it.
   

Ehi, Clairvoyant, benvenuto! Sarai ad una delle due date dei Dream in Italia a Luglio?.
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Ehi,Clairvoyant, welcome! Will you be at one of the two DT concerts in July?

No non posso perchè sono impegnato con l'università almeno fino a metà luglio.
No I can't because I'm involved with the university at least until mid-july.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 12:06:56 AM »
Che reazioni ci sono state a ADTOE e alla tracklist nei forum italiani? Pensate che i concerti di luglio saranno partecipati più o meno del PN09?

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Reactions about ADTOE title and tracklist in the Italian Forums?. Do you see a bigger attendance ad DT summer shows in Italy than PN09?.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2011, 01:56:31 PM »
Io sono stato bannato svariati anni fa da IV. Comunque carina l'idea.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2011, 02:04:16 PM »
[completely unexcited Petrucci voice] Hello.... Italians [/completely unexcited Petrucci voice]

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2011, 02:51:57 PM »
Io sono stato bannato svariati anni fa da IV. Comunque carina l'idea.

Ehi, RudessSolo! Eravamo in A Change of Season, forum ahimè naufragato... Questo thread non è esattamente quello che avevo in mente a quei tempi, ma è meglio che niente per il momento.

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Ehi, RudessSolo! We both were at A Change of Season (a very small italian DT forum)... This Thread is not what i was thinking about at that time (when we first talking about getting in contact with other communities), but is better than nothing.


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[completely unexcited Petrucci voice] Hello.... Italians [/completely unexcited Petrucci voice]

Hey, Renarenucci, you can actually try to write in Italian if you want!
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2011, 02:53:56 PM »
E, insomma, che ne pensate della tracklist? E che se ne dice in giro?

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So, what do you think about the tracklist? And what's the reaction around italian web?

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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2011, 01:58:05 AM »
this thread right here is my ticket to fluency. :tup
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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 02:00:02 AM »
This thread reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhuOicPFZY
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2011, 06:09:35 AM »
This thread reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhuOicPFZY


Let's just say that we're not "pizza mandolino mamma" kind of a population like the rest of the world think of us.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2011, 04:13:19 AM »
Although I have only been in Rome for a year, I have often encountered two people or a group that appears to be yelling at each other. They're not yelling. It's a regular conversation. When two people in Rome are actually yelling at each other "you will know".
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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2011, 04:37:19 AM »
Although I have only been in Rome for a year, I have often encountered two people or a group that appears to be yelling at each other. They're not yelling. It's a regular conversation. When two people in Rome are actually yelling at each other "you will know".

Ahaha, yeah, I suppose we're not the quintessential quiet people, but this too is an assumption not to be held as true in any place. Italy is a very diverse place, in terms of local culture and attitude of the dwellers. An italian prime minister said 150 years ago "Italy has been made. Now we have to make the Italians" As of 2011, this statement is still partially true.

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Ahaha, si, non siamo esattamente un popolo silenzoso, ma anche questo è un assunto da non ritenersi vero in ogni parte d'Italia. L'Italia è un luogo molto diversificato in termini di cultura locale e di atteggiamenti degli abitanti. Un primo ministro (in realtà Presidente del Consiglio dei Ministri) disse 150 anni fa: "Si è fatta l'Italia, ora si devono fare gli italiani". Nel 2011, questa affermazione è ancora in parte vera.
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2011, 09:49:51 AM »
Although I have only been in Rome for a year, I have often encountered two people or a group that appears to be yelling at each other. They're not yelling. It's a regular conversation. When two people in Rome are actually yelling at each other "you will know".

This is actually true for half of italy, the south part. As my roots are from south but i live in the north my girlfriend always complain for the loudness of my normal conversation voice. It's not something intentional, it's like swedens are blond with blu eyes south italians have a loud conversation voice.

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Questo è vero per metà dell'Italia, il sud. Sono di origini meridionali (sicilia) ma vivo al nord, e la mia ragazza si lamenta spesso per il volume della mia voce. Non è qualcosa che si fa volontariamente, vale lo stesso per cui gli svedesi sono biondi con gl'occhi azzurri, i meridionali hanno un alto tono di voce. Non è vero per tutti, ma genericamente è così.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2011, 12:52:34 PM »
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Qui le info

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Metalitalia.com and Live Nation are giving 2 free tickets for the two DT concerts in Italy
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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2011, 02:59:22 AM »
Eccomi, presente sia qui che su IV.
beh, è una gran cosa ritrovarsi qui, non pensate?
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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2011, 08:14:57 AM »
Ciao Matt!
Felice che anche tu sia qui!
Allora, che ne pensi di OTBOA?.

Hey Matt!
Glad you're here!
So, what do you think about OTBOA?.

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2011, 08:39:34 AM »
Sinceramente all'inizio mi ha deluso.
Ma l'ho assimilata dopo diversi ascolti e devo dire che è una delle migliori apripista che hanno fatto sin dai tempi di SDOIT, soprattutto comparata a AROP, CM o PoW o NE...insomma...la canzone mi è entrata in testa e sono molto fiducioso per il resto del disco.

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To be honest, at first i was disappointed
But after I listened to it few times I have to say that it's a great song. One of the best single they've ever made since SDOIT, expecially if you compare it to songs like AROP, CM or PoW, or NE....
The song is great!

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Re: An Italian Dream Theater Thread
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2011, 08:45:20 AM »
E' successo praticamente a tutti! Delusi al primo ascolto per poi amarla dopo 6-7! Credo proprio che questo abbia un significato ben preciso...

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The same thing happened to nearly everyone. Disappointed at the first run through the song, just to come to love it after 6-7 listenings! I believe that this is indeed meaningful...
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