New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed

[tedy]

Wow, track lengths are very interesting!
I really have a good feeling for this album, hoping that it might be the best one since SFAM and SDOIT!

[Dream Team]

Roadrunner has OTBOA at 8:42, here it's listed as 8:46? No biggie, but for accuracy's sake . . .

[emindead]

Pleasantly surprised!

Possible singles?:
1. On the Backs of Angels (8:42) *Confirmed as the first single by RR.*
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
4. This is the Life (6:57)
7. Far From Heaven (3:56)
9. Beneath The Surface (5:26)

[Ben_Jamin]

Once the track titles were released, I had a hunch BAL and BTS are connected to form Breaking All Illusions Beneath The Surface. Now the lengths are released, maybe instead of an Epic closer BAL ends with an epic feel end but then BTS comes in nice and soft summarizing all that occured, and then just ends on a fade.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Longest song is Breaking All Illusions.....who called it?


I DID!!!! 

[bosk1]

Longest song is Breaking All Illusions.....who called it?


I DID!!!! 

Sorry, but I gave my last cookie to the guy who called that the album title would have the letter "e" somewhere in it.

[Lowdz]

My money is on Far From Heaven being a piano ballad. Or an instrumental. Or just as it's building to awesomeness it ends like PMU...

[fadetoblackdude7]

Longest song is Breaking All Illusions.....who called it?


I DID!!!! 

Sorry, but I gave my last cookie to the guy who called that the album title would have the letter "e" somewhere in it.

You're hiding more cookies somewhere else, I can smell them lol

[bosk1]

[Metrovarium]

Pleasantly surprised!

Possible singles?:
1. On the Backs of Angels (8:42) *Confirmed as the first single by RR.*
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
4. This is the Life (6:57)
7. Far From Heaven (3:56)
9. Beneath The Surface (5:26)

I'm betting that Far From Heaven is an intro of sorts to Breaking all Illusions, so I doubt that's the single. Same with Beneath The Surface, if only because the final tracks of DT albums aren't usually meant to be singles. If I had to guess, I'd go with This is the Life.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the album now, especially the second half.

[iamtheeviltwin]

Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?

No...in fact DT has spoiled me on other artists....Any album clocking in at under 60m just feels too short

[wammabe]

I'm extremely glad Breaking All Illusions is the longest song of the album. It might be like Learning to Live or Trial of Tears
I'm also really surprised that Outcry is the second longest song in the album.

Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?

Why would an album ever be to long? It's just a set of songs. DT only releases an album around every two years, the album should be long.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?

No...in fact DT has spoiled me on other artists....Any album clocking in at under 60m just feels too short

I'd say the average album is 40-60 minutes. We're lucky to get an album over an hour these days. Thank God for Prog! 

[MasterShakezula]

Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?

No...in fact DT has spoiled me on other artists....Any album clocking in at under 60m just feels too short

Well, add up the track lengths and it's 77 minutes, which is about par for course for DT.  Though it probably would appear shorter, due to being 9 shorter songs, as opposed to, say, 6 mostly ginormous ones. 

[Millais]

-And it's great to see that Myung will be given a lot of room for him to strech his lyrical legs. A 10+ min song of JM lyrics sounds fantastic.

THIS! ^

i think i read somewhere that far from heaven was an instrumental, sorry if that's been mentioned on the previous page..

[JasonScandopolous]

Did you steal that emoticon from Minneman's shirt?

[ibosmiley]

Awesomeness!  I love the song times!  Nothing super long and a few shorties in there for good measure.  I like when DT albums are more balanced in terms of short and long songs.  I'm kind of glad there are no uber long "epics" on this album... we've had our share of them.  The times on the album remind me of something more from the PMU to SFAM era.

[Plasmastrike]

I'm sure a lot of you found this, but here's a really high-rez version of the art.

https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/dreamtheater/DT_ADTOE.jpg

[The Letter M]

My guess on the vinyl version:
LP 1 (32:49)
Side 1 (15:41)
1. On the Backs of Angels  (8:42)
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)

Side 2 (17:08)
3. Lost Not Forgotten  (10:11)
4. This is the Life (6:57)

LP 2 (44:12)
Side 3 (22:25)
5. Bridges In The Sky (11:01)
6. Outcry  (11:24)

Side 4 (21:47)
7. Far From Heaven (3:56)
8. Breaking All Illusions  (12:25)
9. Beneath The Surface  (5:26)

Total length = 76:51

Not bad, and no need to re-arrange the tracklisting for the vinyl version since this works out just fine for vinyl.

As for the lengths themselves, I like that the longest song isn't last but second-to-last. It reminds me of Adam & Eve by The Flower Kings, where they had an epic song in the second-to-last position and closed with a shorter song, a sort of coda.

I think "Beneath The Surface" will be a bright, up-tempo, major-chord-oriented uplifter that ends the album on a high note, the anti-"Space-Dye Vest" so to speak. "Far From Heaven" might have single potential given it's track length, but if it's a prelude to "Breaking All Illusions" for is a "Vacant"-style piano piece with limited instrumentation, it might not work so well. On the other hand, "Build Me Up, Break Me Down" and "This Is The Life" seem like good candidates for singles.

As for the 10+ minute songs, we haven't seen an album like this since Train Of Thought, and while I wasn't a fan before it was released, I'm sure tons of fans were excited to see 5 songs over 10 minutes long, but I'm still going to be wary of being TOO hyped up about it. I imagine the four songs on here will be very unique in of themselves, perhaps in the way that IAW had 4 "long" songs on that album (PMU, TTT, Metropolis, and LTL), and won't sound too similar or monotonous to each other.

-Marc.

[Gorille85]

Why would an album ever be to long? It's just a set of songs.

To me it's not.

[Zook]

Cool beans. I I I SO EXCITED!

[metropofreak]

Seeing the track lengths has made my day. This album is just gonna be amazing 

[MarkFitDT]

Why would an album ever be to long? It's just a set of songs.

To me it's not.

cheer up!

[Aefenwelg]

The length of Lost Not Forgotten reversed is the length of Bridges in the Sky!

Nuggs.

[ariich]

The track lenghts remind me a lot of FII and a bit of the first disc of SDOIT, which makes me quite happy.

Completely agreed with this. Great stuff!

[The Letter M]

The length of Lost Not Forgotten reversed is the length of Bridges in the Sky!

Nuggs.

 

The Flower Kings did something similar on Paradox Hotel, where the opening epic/song on the first disc was 21:21 long, and the opening song on the second disc was 12:12! I wonder if the whole 11:01/10:11 was intentional?

-Marc.

[tri.ad]

Once again: Nuggets = MP =/= DT.

I like the idea that FFH could be an instrumental leading into BAI, similar to HK/LITS on FII.

[TheGreatPretender]

Once again: Nuggets = MP =/= DT.

I like the idea that FFH could be an instrumental leading into BAI, similar to HK/LITS on FII.

Except that Hell's Kitchen was originally a part of Burning My Soul, before they separated them.

[MasterShakezula]

Once again: Nuggets = MP =/= DT.

I like the idea that FFH could be an instrumental leading into BAI, similar to HK/LITS on FII.

Except that Hell's Kitchen was originally a part of Burning My Soul, before they separated them.

Perhaps the Shaman's Teepee or whatever is an instrumental part of BAI, but at one point was separated, but then was put back in it's place in BAI, and Bridges was a song lying around that the put on then. 

[tri.ad]

Once again: Nuggets = MP =/= DT.

I like the idea that FFH could be an instrumental leading into BAI, similar to HK/LITS on FII.

Except that Hell's Kitchen was originally a part of Burning My Soul, before they separated them.

Not my point. The transition from HK to LITS was seamless, and that's where I was aiming at. Also, HK seemed like the build-up to LITS that way. The songs don't necessarily need to share the musical theme (like Vacant/SOC).

[Jamesman42]

REALLY interesting at how long BITS! is.

[Heretic]

Lost Not Forgotten's length makes my day. I cannot wait to hear that song.

[RuRoRul]

Surprising track lengths, only ones I could have guessed were Build Me Up, Break Me Down and This Is The Life being short (by DT standards) ~6 minute ones, and Breaking All Illusions being an epic (of moderate length). Also I guess I expected Beneath The Surface to be a shorter, softer song based on what we've heard about it recently. I have high hopes for it, but it could be the first time since SDOIT that the closer isn't my favourite song on the album (and I'm glad they're ending with a short song too - obviously I love their epic closers but I think this will be cool).

Didn't expect Outcry to be so long, sounded like a typical ~6 minute heavy song for some reason. Same for the length Lost Not Forgtten and Brides In The Sky / Shamans. Expected the last three to be the longest. Best guess now is Far From Heaven is going to be almost Vacant-like.

So yeah, looking forward. I'm liking the number of tracks (a little more than recently, but not too many so that there are no longer songs) and the lengths (nicely balanced, with several slightly longer but none towering over everything). Makes me hopeful for what could be one of my favourite albums from them. But I'm not drawing too much from them - the music could make this their absolute best or absolute worst, the same as it could with any number / length of songs.

[TheGreatPretender]

REALLY interesting at how long BITS! is.

It's a BITS longer than I expected.

[Jamesman42]

Nice