Author Topic: New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed (Read 484506 times)

Zook · « **Reply #1645 on:** July 17, 2011, 04:59:57 PM »

The bridge in the sky keeps on burnin'

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #1646 on:** July 17, 2011, 05:02:36 PM »

Quote from: Zook on July 17, 2011, 04:59:57 PM

The bridge in the sky keeps on burnin'

Journey reference?

Zook · « **Reply #1647 on:** July 17, 2011, 05:12:47 PM »

Quote from: MasterShakezula on July 17, 2011, 05:02:36 PM

Quote from: Zook on July 17, 2011, 04:59:57 PM
The bridge in the sky keeps on burnin'

Journey reference?

Maybe...

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1648 on:** July 17, 2011, 06:04:15 PM »

Quote from: atmyne on July 16, 2011, 10:51:54 PM

this may be a bit of a far-fetched hypothesis, but maybe the song name "the shamans trance", if it has in fact been changed, was dismissed as it could be a form of drug reference.
shamans have been known to utilize or advocate the use of psychoactive drugs, notably psilocyben mushrooms and dimethyltryptamine (DMT, from native plants, leaves etc.) in order to "discover" one's self and their place in nature (or something like that ). In this psychoactive state, a shamans chant is utilized to help induce a particular state of mind under the influence of these substances.
Maybe the potential allusion of drug-use could be a reason to change the name?

Well, that is far-fetched.

Vajra · « **Reply #1649 on:** July 17, 2011, 06:35:32 PM »

Quote from: atmyne on July 16, 2011, 10:51:54 PM

this may be a bit of a far-fetched hypothesis, but maybe the song name "the shamans trance", if it has in fact been changed, was dismissed as it could be a form of drug reference.
shamans have been known to utilize or advocate the use of psychoactive drugs, notably psilocyben mushrooms and dimethyltryptamine (DMT, from native plants, leaves etc.) in order to "discover" one's self and their place in nature (or something like that ). In this psychoactive state, a shamans chant is utilized to help induce a particular state of mind under the influence of these substances.
Maybe the potential allusion of drug-use could be a reason to change the name?

They have an entire series of songs based on alcohol, and they have covered an entire Pink Floyd album, a band who is best known for drug influences... I doubt DT is worried about people speculating about drugs because they have a title with the word "shaman" in it lol.

KevShmev · « **Reply #1650 on:** July 18, 2011, 11:53:35 PM »

Pink Floyd is NOT best known for drug influences. Just because they made music that was great to get stoned to doesn't mean they were on drugs at the time, least of all that that is what they are most known for. Heck, Roger Waters is on record as admitting that he has done drugs twice in his life (as of the mid 90s).

italianoman · « **Reply #1651 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:37:37 AM »

I'm firmly in the Bridges in the Sky camp on this one...I never liked Shaman's Trance; sounds like a guaranteed-to-be insane Steve Vai track, not DT. That said, it seems like it'd be difficult to rename a song (with a title that seems to share no obvious relation to the previous) with lyrical content so this pushes it a bit towards the 'instrumental' side of the fence in my eyes.

SystematicThought · « **Reply #1652 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:40:14 AM »

John Myung confirmed in an interview that they changed the title because it sounded too spooky.

(I'm sorry, but coupled with the news feed on here and having just watched that DVD again, I couldn't let it go)

robwebster · « **Reply #1653 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:32:10 AM »

Quote from: SystematicThought on July 19, 2011, 12:40:14 AM

John Myung confirmed in an interview that they changed the title because it sounded too spooky.

(I'm sorry, but coupled with the news feed on here and having just watched that DVD again, I couldn't let it go)

I honestly believed that for about two seconds.

The Silent Cody · « **Reply #1654 on:** July 19, 2011, 03:04:54 AM »

Quote from: robwebster on July 19, 2011, 02:32:10 AM

Quote from: SystematicThought on July 19, 2011, 12:40:14 AM
John Myung confirmed in an interview that they changed the title because it sounded too spooky.

(I'm sorry, but coupled with the news feed on here and having just watched that DVD again, I couldn't let it go)
I honestly believed that for about two seconds.

Me too

Chrissalix · « **Reply #1655 on:** July 19, 2011, 09:41:38 AM »

With the instrumental disc being confirmed as part of a special edition, it seems likely that none of the tracks will be instrumental on the full record.

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #1656 on:** July 19, 2011, 09:49:07 AM »

So wait.

The Shaman's trance WILL be an instrumental

No, for real, on the 2nd disc. That's not a joke.

darkshot · « **Reply #1657 on:** July 19, 2011, 09:50:12 AM »

Quote from: Chrissalix on July 19, 2011, 09:41:38 AM

With the instrumental disc being confirmed as part of a special edition, it seems likely that none of the tracks will be instrumental on the full record.

Not necessarily, I still think there's a possibility of an instrumental track (although unlikely at this point). When they released the instrumental versions of BC&SL they were not only missing the vocals but also guitar/key solos. I wouldn't be surprised that if there IS an instrumental track, they included it on the instrumental CD just to be thorough, and perhaps removed the solos and just left the rhythm instrumental. I would be ok with listening to that, if it was a really cool instrumental.

However I would place my bets on no instrumental for this album. There hasn't been an instrumental track since... Train of Thought? There probably wont be another one any time soon.

TheKillingHand · « **Reply #1658 on:** July 19, 2011, 10:36:26 AM »

I never understood why they removed the lead guitar from the BC&SL instrumental mixes...I hope they leave them in this time

darkshot · « **Reply #1659 on:** July 19, 2011, 10:42:42 AM »

Quote from: TheKillingHand on July 19, 2011, 10:36:26 AM

I never understood why they removed the lead guitar from the BC&SL instrumental mixes...I hope they leave them in this time

I always assumed it was to not make James feel like he was being the only one cut out of the mix, so they cut out some of JP and JR's stuff as well, for the instrumentals.

I also think it was for people to more easily hear the rhythm sections underneath the solos if they wanted to recreate it with a cover band.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #1660 on:** July 19, 2011, 10:47:49 AM »

Its so people can play along.

Chrissalix · « **Reply #1661 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:04:02 AM »

Quote from: darkshot on July 19, 2011, 09:50:12 AM

Quote from: Chrissalix on July 19, 2011, 09:41:38 AM
With the instrumental disc being confirmed as part of a special edition, it seems likely that none of the tracks will be instrumental on the full record.

Not necessarily, I still think there's a possibility of an instrumental track (although unlikely at this point). When they released the instrumental versions of BC&SL they were not only missing the vocals but also guitar/key solos. I wouldn't be surprised that if there IS an instrumental track, they included it on the instrumental CD just to be thorough, and perhaps removed the solos and just left the rhythm instrumental. I would be ok with listening to that, if it was a really cool instrumental.

However I would place my bets on no instrumental for this album. There hasn't been an instrumental track since... Train of Thought? There probably wont be another one any time soon.

I don't see how they would release the same thing twice on the same album.

unklejman · « **Reply #1662 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:05:05 AM »

Well if the second one had leads removed like on Black Clouds....

robwebster · « **Reply #1663 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:46:58 AM »

Quote from: Chrissalix on July 19, 2011, 11:04:02 AM

Quote from: darkshot on July 19, 2011, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: Chrissalix on July 19, 2011, 09:41:38 AM
With the instrumental disc being confirmed as part of a special edition, it seems likely that none of the tracks will be instrumental on the full record.

Not necessarily, I still think there's a possibility of an instrumental track (although unlikely at this point). When they released the instrumental versions of BC&SL they were not only missing the vocals but also guitar/key solos. I wouldn't be surprised that if there IS an instrumental track, they included it on the instrumental CD just to be thorough, and perhaps removed the solos and just left the rhythm instrumental. I would be ok with listening to that, if it was a really cool instrumental.

However I would place my bets on no instrumental for this album. There hasn't been an instrumental track since... Train of Thought? There probably wont be another one any time soon.

I don't see how they would release the same thing twice on the same album.

I've said this elsewhere, but if you were releasing an instrumental edition of Train of Thought, would you segue Vacant straight into In the Name of God?

Throwing in the instrumental as-is allows the instrumental album to flow as the lyrical album should. It's not just a collection of instrumentals to download and chuck into a playlist, it's the album sans lyrics. They'd keep Bridges in the Sky whichever way.

jonny108 · « **Reply #1664 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:47:25 AM »

According to Roadrunner the tracklengths are as followed:

They are all 26 minutes long with a 37 second coda.

jonny108 · « **Reply #1665 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:51:03 AM »

Just got another reply:
I think it's worth a small news post later in the week!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Tracklengths coming this week

Edergilmour · « **Reply #1666 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:18:07 PM »

Quote from: jonny108 on July 19, 2011, 11:51:03 AM

Just got another reply:
I think it's worth a small news post later in the week!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Tracklengths coming this week

Good news. I'm curious bout that.

nikatapi · « **Reply #1667 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:26:58 PM »

Quote from: jonny108 on July 19, 2011, 11:51:03 AM

Just got another reply:
I think it's worth a small news post later in the week!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Tracklengths coming this week

Νice! Thanks for asking Johny!
I really hope they kept long songs at a minimum.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #1668 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:32:33 PM »

I'm gonna predict that Breaking All Illusions is the longest song on the album.

chknptpie · « **Reply #1669 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:33:36 PM »

I really enjoy the instrumentals on BC&SL, sometimes I think I like them better than the originals.

BlackInk · « **Reply #1670 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:37:40 PM »

^ Same here.

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on July 19, 2011, 12:32:33 PM

I'm gonna predict that Breaking All Illusions is the longest song on the album.

I will predict that too. I used to think it was going to be Beneath the Surface until it was announced it was JP's "own" song.

Heretic · « **Reply #1671 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:53:29 PM »

Looking forward to track lengths!

tri.ad · « **Reply #1672 on:** July 19, 2011, 02:26:15 PM »

Should be interesting.

Edergilmour · « **Reply #1673 on:** July 19, 2011, 08:12:57 PM »

James confirmed the change of title:
"Hey Everyone, Yes 'Bridges in the Sky' is in fact Shaman's. Make a note of it and enjoy while listening. Although you'll have to wait a bit."

Zook · « **Reply #1674 on:** July 19, 2011, 08:26:31 PM »

I guess they felt they didn't need a press release.

The Silent Cody · « **Reply #1675 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:50:22 PM »

I don't know what is going on with track 5,

but I'm looking very forward to track lenghts

nikatapi · « **Reply #1676 on:** July 20, 2011, 06:41:57 AM »

Quote from: Piratecjs

JP wrote the lyrics for what was originally titled Shamans' but there was a line in the song that says Bridges in the Sky hence the new name

So there you have it, its not instrumental...

bosk1 · « **Reply #1677 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:10:38 AM »

Again, nobody ever said it was.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #1678 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:13:22 AM »

Quote from: bosk1 on July 20, 2011, 08:10:38 AM

Again, nobody ever said it was.

Well, lots of people said it was. Just no-one important

Shucks am I disappointed that Raw Dog isn't going to be included on this album or the bonus disc

darkshot · « **Reply #1679 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:20:32 AM »

For some reason people assumed that because it had a weird name that didn't fit the rest of the songs, that was proof enough to start saying its an instrumental. Well now they changed the name to something more appropriate, they probably realized it sounded out of place as well...

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

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