Author Topic: New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed (Read 484657 times)

BlackInk · « **Reply #1505 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:48:39 AM »

^

I agree. The track lenghts of the wikipedia page I posted that is deleted now said Breaking All Illusions was about 11 minutes long and Beneath the Surface was about 14 minutes. Even if that was fake it would be pretty nice if it turned out to be something like that

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #1506 on:** July 10, 2011, 05:43:44 AM »

I really hope there is no epic and that there is an instrumental.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #1507 on:** July 10, 2011, 12:07:37 PM »

Has anyone thought of the idea that ADTOE might be a double album?

petrucci07 · « **Reply #1508 on:** July 10, 2011, 12:10:38 PM »

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on July 10, 2011, 12:07:37 PM

Has anyone thought of the idea that ADTOE might be a double album?

They would have announced it already. It'd be nice though.

wasteland · « **Reply #1509 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:26:44 PM »

Jamariquay · « **Reply #1510 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:30:09 PM »

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on July 10, 2011, 12:07:37 PM

Has anyone thought of the idea that ADTOE might be a double album?

That'd mean that disc one would have four songs and disc five would have five songs (something like that anyway). Meaning that the average track length could potentially be around fifteen minutes. I dunno, I feel like it's been done already.

Elaitch · « **Reply #1511 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:34:12 PM »

Quote from: wasteland on July 10, 2011, 02:26:44 PM

tri.ad · « **Reply #1512 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:51:26 PM »

Edit: Nevermind. Double album? Doubt it, it would have been part of the announcement imo.

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #1513 on:** July 10, 2011, 04:52:49 PM »

It's still a possibility, but I agree with tri.ad.

robwebster · « **Reply #1514 on:** July 10, 2011, 04:55:57 PM »

Quote from: tri.ad on July 10, 2011, 02:51:26 PM

Edit: Nevermind. Double album? Doubt it, it would have been part of the announcement imo.

Yeah, I think the track numbering would look different, were it a double album.

DISC ONE
1. On the Backs of Angels
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down

DISC TWO
1. Lost Not Forgotten
2. This is the Life
3. The Shaman's Trance
4. Outcry
5. Far from Heaven
6. Breaking All Illusions
7. Beneath the Surface

...or whatever.

(This is in a universe where Build Me Up, Break Me Down is fucking enormous, for the record.)

BlackInk · « **Reply #1515 on:** July 10, 2011, 04:57:02 PM »

Well I dig that universe.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #1516 on:** July 10, 2011, 05:08:31 PM »

I can see your guys' point about them announcing it as a double album, but I have never witnessed the announcement of a double album, since I was a fan following the release of Octavarium. When they announced SDOIT to be released, did it include the two-dsic tracklisting that we know of today?

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1517 on:** July 10, 2011, 08:26:57 PM »

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on July 10, 2011, 05:08:31 PM

I can see your guys' point about them announcing it as a double album, but I have never witnessed the announcement of a double album, since I was a fan following the release of Octavarium. When they announced SDOIT to be released, did it include the two-dsic tracklisting that we know of today?

Yes.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #1518 on:** July 10, 2011, 08:33:55 PM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 10, 2011, 08:26:57 PM

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on July 10, 2011, 05:08:31 PM
I can see your guys' point about them announcing it as a double album, but I have never witnessed the announcement of a double album, since I was a fan following the release of Octavarium. When they announced SDOIT to be released, did it include the two-dsic tracklisting that we know of today?
Yes.

Good to know.

tri.ad · « **Reply #1519 on:** July 11, 2011, 01:39:36 AM »

This just occurred to me while reading the thread about the track lengths... I wouldn't mind if the last song was a shorter song and had a lighter, almost acoustic arrangement. It would be a nice change to the mostly bombastic album enders DT had for the last ten years imo.

soulburner · « **Reply #1520 on:** July 11, 2011, 01:51:50 AM »

I have only one question regarding the new album.

Stems.

BC&SL limited edition included a "producer's disc", containing all songs each split into 6 stems - vocals, guitar, solo, keys, bass, drums. It was a great thing for musicians and people like me, who just like to play with sound. Thanks to the stems, I could make a much more dynamic mix of the album, not suffering from the loudness war, increasing the clarity of keys and bass, making the kickdrum more prominent and other stuff like that.

I have got so much used to doing that, my mind can't comprehend a new DT album without the stems. Have you guys heard anything about that?

lucky7 · « **Reply #1521 on:** July 11, 2011, 02:39:49 AM »

Long time away and so much has happened in a month

I love the album title, as everything has been a dramatic turn of events for all of us fans and the band, great that there are more tracks than BC&SL, roll on Sept!

ReaPsTA · « **Reply #1522 on:** July 11, 2011, 02:41:52 AM »

Quote from: soulburner on July 11, 2011, 01:51:50 AM

I have only one question regarding the new album.

Stems.

BC&SL limited edition included a "producer's disc", containing all songs each split into 6 stems - vocals, guitar, solo, keys, bass, drums. It was a great thing for musicians and people like me, who just like to play with sound. Thanks to the stems, I could make a much more dynamic mix of the album, not suffering from the loudness war, increasing the clarity of keys and bass, making the kickdrum more prominent and other stuff like that.

I have got so much used to doing that, my mind can't comprehend a new DT album without the stems. Have you guys heard anything about that?

Question - How did you pull this off? The improvements you made to the sound are virtually the same as my complaints about it. I tried to do some stuff with the mixes to make them more clear but it never worked. The bass in particular ended up being too present or too bassy to sound good.

Psy · « **Reply #1523 on:** July 11, 2011, 05:55:53 AM »

To be honest, the BC&SL stems were kinda poor because they were still compressed. Would be far better if they provided the source audio as is.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #1524 on:** July 11, 2011, 06:06:01 AM »

Quote from: soulburner on July 11, 2011, 01:51:50 AM

I have only one question regarding the new album.

Stems.

BC&SL limited edition included a "producer's disc", containing all songs each split into 6 stems - vocals, guitar, solo, keys, bass, drums. It was a great thing for musicians and people like me, who just like to play with sound. Thanks to the stems, I could make a much more dynamic mix of the album, not suffering from the loudness war, increasing the clarity of keys and bass, making the kickdrum more prominent and other stuff like that.

I have got so much used to doing that, my mind can't comprehend a new DT album without the stems. Have you guys heard anything about that?

Could you upload some of your remixes? I'd love to hear it. Like Reapsta, I'd tried it myself, but never got what I wanted.

There used to be a subforum here for the Black Clouds remixes, so I'm pretty sure it's allowed.

soulburner · « **Reply #1525 on:** July 11, 2011, 06:35:41 AM »

Well, my improvements aren't _that_ good, so don't expect much from this

My description might have been a little misleading

Maybe it shouldn't be called an improvement, but simply a custom version of some sort. It's most likely too bassy, with too much treble and a million other stuff you could complain about (like the guitar

), but... I love it much, much more than the original CD. And my speakers are pretty bad

Here's a few minute sample: https://przygarnij.e-net24.pl/_Shattered_Fortress_sample.mp3 (I'm on a slow network, so it would take ages to upload anything longer and/or better quality).

The Silent Cody · « **Reply #1526 on:** July 11, 2011, 08:22:05 AM »

Quote from: soulburner on July 11, 2011, 06:35:41 AM

Well, my improvements aren't _that_ good, so don't expect much from this My description might have been a little misleading

Maybe it shouldn't be called an improvement, but simply a custom version of some sort. It's most likely too bassy, with too much treble and a million other stuff you could complain about (like the guitar ), but... I love it much, much more than the original CD. And my speakers are pretty bad

Here's a few minute sample: https://przygarnij.e-net24.pl/_Shattered_Fortress_sample.mp3 (I'm on a slow network, so it would take ages to upload anything longer and/or better quality).

Welcome!! I can feel the presence of the Polish brother down here....

soulburner · « **Reply #1527 on:** July 11, 2011, 01:31:53 PM »

Quote from: The Silent Cody on July 11, 2011, 08:22:05 AM

Welcome!! I can feel the presence of the Polish brother down here....

Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 11, 2011, 06:06:01 AM

There used to be a subforum here for the Black Clouds remixes, so I'm pretty sure it's allowed.

What happened to this subforum? There must have been many interesting thing there, and I only heard two versions, posted ages ago on some audio oriented forum.

BlackInk · « **Reply #1528 on:** July 11, 2011, 02:22:03 PM »

I enjoyed just listening to the isolated tracks, withour even mixing. Especially Jordans keyboard parts, some of them are just beautiful as they are, without the other instruments or vocals.

jonny108 · « **Reply #1529 on:** July 12, 2011, 06:56:00 AM »

Well Classic Rock Presents Prog says the new album is very, very impressive. Rich Wilson has also heard it

Why don't I work for them?

chrisbDTM · « **Reply #1530 on:** July 12, 2011, 07:01:48 AM »

Rich Wilson is always lurking, please comment!

BlackwaterPerk · « **Reply #1531 on:** July 12, 2011, 12:29:56 PM »

Nice interview with James about the album and tour and other stuff...
Guess Which lyric JM wrote?

https://www.prog-sphere.com/2011/07/11/resurfacing-an-interview-with-james-labrie/

Zydar · « **Reply #1532 on:** July 12, 2011, 12:32:58 PM »

Quote from: BlackwaterPerk on July 12, 2011, 12:29:56 PM

Nice interview with James about the album and tour and other stuff...
Guess Which lyric JM wrote?

https://www.prog-sphere.com/2011/07/11/resurfacing-an-interview-with-james-labrie/

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=24613.0

BlackwaterPerk · « **Reply #1533 on:** July 12, 2011, 12:55:01 PM »

Didn't know about that thread... sorry

Zydar · « **Reply #1534 on:** July 12, 2011, 01:50:33 PM »

No worries.

atmyne · « **Reply #1535 on:** July 12, 2011, 02:44:01 PM »

edit: link stopped working

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1536 on:** July 12, 2011, 02:57:24 PM »

Quote from: Rich Wilson

Well they deserve some success with this album. It's a real grower and I think they've achieved what they were aiming to produce - a "classic Dream Theater album". Of course we'd all like Mike there behind the kit, and in a funny way it almost feels disloyal for me to be liking this album, but you won't be disappointed. Beneath The Surface is one of the most beautiful things they've ever written.

From Voices UK forum.

The Silent Cody · « **Reply #1537 on:** July 12, 2011, 03:01:28 PM »

Quote from: cyberdrummer on July 12, 2011, 02:57:24 PM

Quote from: Rich Wilson
Well they deserve some success with this album. It's a real grower and I think they've achieved what they were aiming to produce - a "classic Dream Theater album". Of course we'd all like Mike there behind the kit, and in a funny way it almost feels disloyal for me to be liking this album, but you won't be disappointed. Beneath The Surface is one of the most beautiful things they've ever written.

From Voices UK forum.

Wow, now my excitement is far too high...

...

tri.ad · « **Reply #1538 on:** July 12, 2011, 04:10:00 PM »

Quote from: Rich Wilson

Of course we'd all like Mike [Portnoy] there behind the kit,

I wouldn't.

MarkFitDT · « **Reply #1539 on:** July 12, 2011, 04:32:45 PM »

Quote from: tri.ad on July 12, 2011, 04:10:00 PM

Quote from: Rich Wilson
Of course we'd all like Mike [Portnoy] there behind the kit,

I wouldn't.

me neither - no disprect to Portnoy but im happy with things how they are now thank you very much!

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