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Re: New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed
« Reply #840 on: June 16, 2011, 01:36:14 PM »
Well also, there's nothing to say that there is a specific connection between the songs. From the way JP described it, it sounds more like what happened with Black Clouds. There was a running theme through a lot of the songs, so they went with that as a title. We'll have to wait and see what it's actually like before we can judge.

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« Reply #841 on: June 16, 2011, 01:44:35 PM »
We'll have to wait and see what it's actually like before we can judge.

This is the internet; that isn't how we do things here.  ;)

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Re: New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed
« Reply #842 on: June 16, 2011, 01:47:13 PM »
We'll have to wait and see what it's actually like before we can judge.

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« Reply #843 on: June 16, 2011, 02:00:35 PM »
We'll have to wait and see what it's actually like before we can judge.

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« Reply #844 on: June 16, 2011, 02:03:14 PM »
I wonder if the first track of the album starts with those birdy sounds at the end of TCOT
wouldn't be the first time they used it... (SFAM to 6DOIT to TOT to 8VM)
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« Reply #845 on: June 16, 2011, 02:04:18 PM »
I wonder if the first track of the album starts with those birdy sounds at the end of TCOT
wouldn't be the first time they used it... (SFAM to 6DOIT to TOT to 8VM)

I HIGHLY doubt it.

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« Reply #846 on: June 16, 2011, 02:04:44 PM »
Here is a quick summary of the interview:

Mixing is indeed in its final stages and Petrucci said he is very happy to be at that point.

"We've had many rehearsals the past few weeks for the upcoming tour. Like every one of us, Mike is getting ready and in my opinion, he's definitely ready with a great and professional attitude." I'm a bit skeptical about this being true; maybe the interviewer might have made a mistake in translating what JP said...

DT will try to release a few songs as singles(fairly obvious...) and JP said: "I definitely stand behind the cliché, and I'm proud to say that the album came out better than excellent and I'm really proud of every aspect of its creation that is portrayed in it: the energy, the band's spirit, lyrics/tunes, and the sound"

I can confirm that ש translation from earlier on in the thread is accurate:
"It's clear to me that it's possible to directly connect the name of the album to everything that has happened with the band in the last year, but it's not the case. the name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact, but at the same time, I have to confess that it's clear that it's possible to translate it the way in which you talk about - although it wasn't the meaning."  

When asked about being the band leader with MP for decades now and dealing with his departure, JP said:
"There's a misunderstanding - there was never one or two people that led the band, we always worked as one cohesive unit when some of us has different responsibilities. Personally, nothing really changed. It's certainly different when you aren't part of a pair producing the albums and maybe responsible about certain decisions in a different way than the other band members, but I feel pretty much the same. Mike definitely did some amazing things for the band and was amazing with the fans, but the things I do haven't really changed. It's different when I'm producing alone now, but it's something that I enjoy doing and I enjoy taking the responsibility on myself."

"Some of us began writing some material at home before Mike's announcement..."

"While we're writing the music, we build the songs' structures, and then we decide where the singing comes in, and sometimes when that happens, words come out and certainly phrases and melodies. Generally, most of the construction of the words occurs at this stage. Sometimes, and those are very rare situations, there are songs ready with them (referring to lyrics) and we are forced to work on the music differently. There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."

Since this is a thread discussing the album, I only put information pertaining to it. There are some other tidbits, but they don't belong in here. I hope the info is clear to you guys; my Hebrew regressed a bit ever since I left Israel.

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Re: New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed
« Reply #847 on: June 16, 2011, 02:08:04 PM »
"We've had many rehearsals the past few weeks for the upcoming tour. Like every one of us, Mike is getting ready and in my opinion, he's definitely ready with a great and professional attitude." I'm a bit skeptical about this being true; maybe the interviewer might have made a mistake in translating what JP said...

Why are you skeptical about that being true?
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« Reply #848 on: June 16, 2011, 02:13:37 PM »
"We've had many rehearsals the past few weeks for the upcoming tour. Like every one of us, Mike is getting ready and in my opinion, he's definitely ready with a great and professional attitude." I'm a bit skeptical about this being true; maybe the interviewer might have made a mistake in translating what JP said...

Why are you skeptical about that being true?
I'm sure JP and one of the techs mentioned rehearsals only started this week (or last maybe). But I could be wrong.

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« Reply #849 on: June 16, 2011, 02:15:58 PM »
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for it or compose something unique for that specific text

Would this confirm that there's going to be some musical links between different songs like WFS/LTL, TM/SDV and V/SOC?

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« Reply #850 on: June 16, 2011, 02:16:26 PM »
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Why are you skeptical about that being true?

The way it's written in the text, it seems like they all rehearsed together. However, I remember reading a tweet by JLB saying that rehearsals start next week. I'm skeptical of them already rehearsing together because it is followed with "Mike is getting ready," which to me doesn't seem like they haven't rehearsed together yet. Or maybe they're already rehearsing just without JLB yet.

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« Reply #851 on: June 16, 2011, 02:52:06 PM »
Oh, I see.  Yeah, hard to say.  It could be a mistranslation, or maybe John misspoke, or maybe they have had some informal rehearsals, but just haven't started the "official" tour rehearsals yet.  Who knows?
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« Reply #852 on: June 16, 2011, 02:55:33 PM »
I wonder if the first track of the album starts with those birdy sounds at the end of TCOT
wouldn't be the first time they used it... (SFAM to 6DOIT to TOT to 8VM)

I HIGHLY doubt it.

the trend of having one cd where the previous left off ended with 8VM as it ended the same way it began.

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Re: New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed
« Reply #853 on: June 16, 2011, 03:04:56 PM »
Oh, I see.  Yeah, hard to say.  It could be a mistranslation, or maybe John misspoke, or maybe they have had some informal rehearsals, but just haven't started the "official" tour rehearsals yet.  Who knows?
This is exactly my feeling as well.

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« Reply #854 on: June 16, 2011, 03:15:22 PM »
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."

So, Myung probably wrong one song?

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« Reply #855 on: June 16, 2011, 03:24:53 PM »
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."

So, Myung probably wrong one song?

If you mean wrote then maybe, but it looks like JP is referring to a song he wrote.

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« Reply #856 on: June 16, 2011, 03:48:18 PM »
I believe JP (it might've been JLB or JR) said Myung wrote for multiple songs, so he may have written some for an already composed song as well, which would be interesting, I wonder how much his lyrical style has changed since 1999, if it changed at all.

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« Reply #857 on: June 16, 2011, 04:42:48 PM »
JMX's lyrics actually won't contain any words that he hasn't already used in previous lyrics.

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« Reply #858 on: June 16, 2011, 05:38:56 PM »
Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?

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« Reply #859 on: June 16, 2011, 05:44:38 PM »
Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?

Apparently so. Some user met Jordan a few months(?) ago at a benefit concert and Jordan told him that there will be JM lyrics to several songs. How many I have no clue, but I personally don't see it being higher than two because JP loves to write lyrics and I'm assuming JLB contributed lyrically as well.

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« Reply #860 on: June 16, 2011, 06:41:10 PM »
Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?

Apparently so. Some user met Jordan a few months(?) ago at a benefit concert and Jordan told him that there will be JM lyrics to several songs. How many I have no clue, but I personally don't see it being higher than two because JP loves to write lyrics and I'm assuming JLB contributed lyrically as well.

Well, now I know how rumors get started.

JR confirmed that JM wrote lyrics on this album, but, as far as I can tell, any statements that it was to more than one song, let alone "several songs" are just rumor.

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« Reply #861 on: June 16, 2011, 07:00:13 PM »
Any word on track lengths yet? or writing credits?

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« Reply #862 on: June 16, 2011, 07:11:11 PM »
^That would be very nice, along with the artwork. Perhaps after the mixing?

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« Reply #863 on: June 16, 2011, 07:26:21 PM »
^That would be very nice, along with the artwork. Perhaps after the mixing?

When it comes to the track lengths - not until mastering is finished.  Mastering is when you figure out precisely how much dead space is before and after every track, which will give us the final official lengths.
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« Reply #864 on: June 16, 2011, 07:29:52 PM »
ReaPsTA, I want to publicly thank you for your timely and informed response.

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« Reply #865 on: June 16, 2011, 07:43:18 PM »
ReaPsTA, I want to publicly thank you for your timely and informed response.

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« Reply #866 on: June 16, 2011, 08:09:03 PM »
ReaPsTA, I want to publicly thank you for your timely and informed response.

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« Reply #867 on: June 16, 2011, 08:17:10 PM »
ReaPsTA, I want to publicly thank you for your timely and informed response.

"Thank you."

Also thanks mocool for the translation. :tup

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« Reply #868 on: June 16, 2011, 08:28:30 PM »
Yep, thanks for the translation!

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« Reply #869 on: June 16, 2011, 10:34:57 PM »
I'm all for the lyrical concept, provided they aren't extremely literal about it.

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« Reply #870 on: June 16, 2011, 11:17:20 PM »
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« Reply #871 on: June 16, 2011, 11:38:34 PM »
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."

So, Myung probably wrong one song?

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A FEW singles? Like, all before the album? Fuck.

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« Reply #872 on: June 16, 2011, 11:55:46 PM »
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."

So, Myung probably wrong one song?

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A FEW singles? Like, all before the album? Fuck.
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« Reply #873 on: June 17, 2011, 12:21:38 AM »
Oh no, that facepalm was for Jason completely interpolating something that wasn't there.

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« Reply #874 on: June 17, 2011, 02:24:15 AM »
Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?

Apparently so. Some user met Jordan a few months(?) ago at a benefit concert and Jordan told him that there will be JM lyrics to several songs. How many I have no clue, but I personally don't see it being higher than two because JP loves to write lyrics and I'm assuming JLB contributed lyrically as well.

Well, now I know how rumors get started.

JR confirmed that JM wrote lyrics on this album, but, as far as I can tell, any statements that it was to more than one song, let alone "several songs" are just rumor.
The confirmation and the idea that it might be "multiple songs" came from exactly the same place. Namely, one of our number who met him at a recent event. Can't remember what the event was, precisely, but the number's no more dubious than the confirmation that JM's written a word in the first place.

EDIT: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22053.msg867186#msg867186 Here you go.

In this case, rumours get started by first-hand sources. Not chinese whispers.

Not to say that there's not a chance that Mebert could be embellishing - "some bloke off the internet" wouldn't exactly hold the same amount of water as an academic source - but he's been here for a while, he's a trusted member, and I can't see him making things up only to inevitably be proven wrong five months down the line. I'd be more inclined to trust him than Blabbermouth.