Metropolis Part III?

[Dream_Theater01]

Recently, I've been listening to "Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From A Memory" and I was thinking about a possible pt. 3.  Does anyone think it's a possibility, or is it a bad idea?  I think it would be a good idea, if they wish to continue the story.  Thoughts?

[Adami]

The story is over, there is no possibility for Metrop Pt. 3. Everyone died. It's the opposite of A Nightmare to Remember.

[ZirconBlue]

Well, story-wise it's possible.  (With reincarnation in the picture, you can always just pick up with a later incarnation of the characters.)  But, while I think it could be kinda cool to have another "bookend" for the set, I highly doubt they'll ever do it.

[TheMadgician]

They could carry on via reincarnation. But to what end? The story was told in part 2. There's not really much more to tell.

[Aefenwelg]

I was talking with a friend about this the other day and I came up with a story that could work:

Victoria and Nicholas come back as ghosts to haunt the hypnotist. 

[ariich]

Everyone died. It's the opposite of A Nightmare to Remember.

But yeah, that.

[wasteland]

The story is over, there is no possibility for Metrop Pt. 3. Everyone died. It's the opposite of A Nightmare to Remember.

Dreadful ending...



As for myself

if DT11 is being Metropolis Pt.3 , I will chew and eat my jaw.

[FretMuppet]

I wouldn't mind if that was the case. I doubt they'd make a Metropolis pt. 3 album but a song (like pt.2 was initially going to be) would be cool

[ACID_FOX]

I really, really hope not.

[Jaffa]

I'm torn. 

See, I'd like to see it if they did it well.  If they nailed it like they did with SFAM, I'd be thrilled to hear it.

But I'm skeptical about whether or not they actually could do it well.  I'm afraid it would suffer from concept-album-sequel-syndrome, trying to live up to the quality of SFAM and instead creating a cheap copy. 

[tri.ad]

Oh jeez, this again?

I really, really, really don't think it will ever happen. Hell, DT were very reluctant about creating a Metropolis Pt. 2, why on earth should they do another part?

[chrisbDTM]

i wouldnt be against it if it was good.

but its one of those things where it could be the ablsolute GREATEST album weve ever heard, but there will still be those people who will knock it simply because its not the classic 'metropolis pt. 2'

[Dcrupi]

Hell, DT was very reluctant about creating a Metropolis Pt. 2, why on earth should they do another part?

Because it was wildly successful and is regarded as one of their greatest masterpieces, if not THE greatest by the general public? And they could probably use a sure-fire hit right now in light of recent events?

Still, I highly, highly doubt that they've done something like that...I'm sure we would've heard something secretive from them by now suggesting that a concept album is in the works, especially if it were something as huge as Metropolis III.  Now would not be the time to do something like that anyway, post-Mike.

That doesn't preclude the possibility of it ever happening, though.

[tri.ad]

Hell, DT was very reluctant about creating a Metropolis Pt. 2, why on earth should they do another part?

Because it was wildly successful and is regarded as one of their greatest masterpieces, if not THE greatest by the general public? And they could probably use a sure-fire hit right now in light of recent events?

DT never (or very rarely) went by what the general public deemed great in terms of designing albums, concepts, lyrics etc imo, aside from that burning desire for a Metropolis Pt. 2, which was also a bit of an attempt to quiet those who wouldn't shut up about "WHY NO METROPOLIS PT 2?". Also, a "sure-fire hit" wouldn't be the best option right now. DT were at their highest point when they had something to prove, as was the case with Images & Words and SFAM. Now, with MP out of the picture, a new drummer and a change of chemistry in creating music, they have something to prove again, and a Metropolis Pt. 3 album wouldn't quite fit that picture.

Besides, I still think that the band came to a certain conclusion of this whole Metropolis concept with the ending of SFAM. I really don't think that digging it up would achieve anything great.

[ZirconBlue]

They could carry on via reincarnation. But to what end? The story was told in part 2. There's not really much more to tell.

Well, The Miracle is seriously in need of some Karmic retribution.  So, a postscript song where he gets his comeuppance could be cool. 

[JayOctavarium]

I could see some form of musical / lyrical reference somewhere down the line... but a full blown part 3? naaah

[The Letter M]

Let's see...

Metropolis Part 1 - Epic song with instrumental awesomeness
Metropolis Part 2 - Epic concept album
Metropolis Part 3 - _______________

Only if it's a 4-5 minute pop song in the vein of Coldplay/U2/Muse. Just to piss everyone off, but lyrically and musically it'll contain references to Parts 1 and 2. 

Seriously though, I doubt it'll happen. The boys really want a fresh start and will probably distance themselves from sequels/prequels or anything that relates to older material - They had that with the cross-album segues, the 12 Step Suite, and of course SFAM. I think they probably just want to write a great album of prog metal music that is, in itself, great and does not have to references or lean-on past albums/songs for any reason.

-Marc.

[FretMuppet]

If they ever wanted to write another concept album like SFAM, they'd probably come up with a new concept

[Obfuscation]

As much as I would like this to happen, it will never happen and I don't think they should anyway.

[Lowdz]

Why the need to rehash those musical themes again? They've been done twice, it's enough. They would be doing variations of the variations.
I'd be happy to see another concept album witha different feel somewhere down the line.

[hefdaddy42]

This is an awful idea.  For the 3,475th time in the last 10 years.

[Knguro]

This is an awful idea.  For the 3,475th time in the last 10 years.

 

[MykeHavoc]

If they wrote a song in the same vain and length as part 1 as a book end of sorts, I'd be down for it if the inspiration to do something musically interesting was there. I'm sure people thought that making a sequel in the first place would be a dumb idea, and perhaps even scoffed at the fact that it would be expanded into an entire concept album. But obviously the end results delighted most fans. I wouldn't knock something of another continuation until I heard it. They stretched the 12 step saga over 5 records (2 too long in my opinion), so obviously they aren't entirely apposed to multi part epics.

[xShammas]

They would never do it as an album, but maybe as a song. Not on DT11 though. They want to start fresh and establish their new sound first. Still unlikely that they'll ever make it though.

[Jirpo]

I wouldn't mind a single song a few albums down the road. Metropolis Part 3 on the tracklist sure would get the fans hyped up

[Bolsters]

I had an idea for a Metropolis part 3 album a while ago. It's a very vague idea because I don't have an imagination to flesh it out to a song-by-song basis, and I'm not sure it would work even if I did, but I thought it was somewhat interesting. So I may aswell go ahead and share it.

Basically, the album wouldn't continue on from part 2 but instead jump back to the early 1930's. The album would follow the efforts of the private eye hired to investigate the murder/suicide of Julian and Victoria. The album would have a very "hard-boiled" detective theme like the comic books from around that time, or films made later, like The Maltese Falcon. For anyone familiar with Bogart's films, the PI would be a very similar character to what he played in a lot of films, but especially The Maltese Falcon. Now before anyone asks, no, the PI is not Julian, and at this point Edward is still alive, so the PI is a completely new character to the story. The PI would have been hired by a mysterious, beautiful young woman (or "dame") who believes that the events of Julian and Victoria's deaths are not understood, and she convinces him to investigate the circumstances of their deaths. Of course, this dame would be an apparition of Victoria - not a reincarnation, since there wasn't enough time for her to be "reborn" yet, as it were, and her mysterious nature would be another ongoing theme for the PI throughout the album, until he eventually figures out she's an apparition. Of course Edward ends up being one of the first people he talks to about it given his relationship with the deceased, and the PI's dealings with him are how he gets the idea he is involved and Edward's plot to thwart his efforts is another ongoing theme throughout the album. Anyway eventually the PI figures out Victoria has come back to try and help him solve the murders, and he figures out that it was Edward, but of course Edward murders the PI before he can do anything about it.

[ricky]

people seriously believe there is going to be a metropolis part 3?

[MykeHavoc]

I don't think anyone is saying they think a part 3 will ever be written. We're just stating whether we like the idea or not.

[ricky]

I don't think anyone is saying they think a part 3 will ever be written. We're just stating whether we like the idea or not.

*sigh*

Recently, I've been listening to "Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From A Memory" and I was thinking about a possible pt. 3.  Does anyone think it's a possibility, or is it a bad idea?  I think it would be a good idea, if they wish to continue the story.  Thoughts?

[MykeHavoc]

Regardless of the wording in the original post, most people are simply replying in regard to whether it would be a good idea or not.

[yeshaberto]

I'd buy it but my
Expectations would prob drown it

[SystematicThought]

Hopefully they'd pick a better name than Julian and Victoria and expand upon the fact that Edward is a Senator

[SnakeEyes]

If DT ever did this, I'd stop listening to DT.  I wouldn't care if it's the best album ever.  I'D STOP LISTENING TO THEM. 

[Jirpo]

If DT ever did this, I'd stop listening to DT.  I wouldn't care if it's the best album ever.  I'D STOP LISTENING TO THEM. 

Why would you do this if the album is their best ever?

[SnakeEyes]

Because Metropolis part 3 would be retarded.