Author Topic: The Trivium Thread (Read 103890 times)

Heretic · « **Reply #245 on:** August 19, 2011, 11:58:46 AM »

Yeah I thought the production of the album was pretty nice myself, sounded great in my car, the bass especially

wolfking · « **Reply #246 on:** August 19, 2011, 04:01:19 PM »

Yeah, it has a really good bottom end. I'm loving A Gray So Dark at the moment.

gazinwales · « **Reply #247 on:** August 19, 2011, 04:07:26 PM »

The production is superb, an old pro like Colin Richardson has been doing this for many years now.
I love the bonus DVD of the live in the studio songs.

My first Trivium CD purchase.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #248 on:** August 19, 2011, 06:16:24 PM »

The galloping riff in Chaos Reigns is just too awesome for words.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #249 on:** August 20, 2011, 06:55:25 PM »

Listening to the album "Shogun" now. On track 3 so far and sounding good. May be a future purchase.

Heretic · « **Reply #250 on:** August 20, 2011, 06:57:06 PM »

I'm still thinking I like Shogun better than In Waves, but In Waves is just a piece of gold, I really love every song on the album, and I find that there's more memorable melodies and riffs than in Shogun for the most part!

Kotowboy · « **Reply #251 on:** August 20, 2011, 06:58:23 PM »

I think I like the production job on In Waves better. But Shogun is also very good.

I liked Ascendancy back in the day but Crusade put me off them. Just getting back into them.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #252 on:** August 20, 2011, 07:04:03 PM »

Should I stay away from The Crusade ?

I've heard "We are The Fire" - is it all that cheesy ?

Heretic · « **Reply #253 on:** August 20, 2011, 07:22:39 PM »

Not a huge fan of the Crusade myself, it's nothing terrible, but I prefer all of their other albums over it.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #254 on:** August 20, 2011, 07:41:24 PM »

Been listening to Shogun all evening....

Then put Chaos Reigns on...

The huge leap in production quality is glaring

That gallop

Gadough · « **Reply #255 on:** August 20, 2011, 10:33:02 PM »

New album rankings:

1. Ascendency
2. Shogun
3. In Waves
4. Ember to Inferno
5. The Crusade

I still like The Crusade quite a bit, but unfortunately, it now suffers from being the "sore thumb" of the Trivium catalog.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #256 on:** August 21, 2011, 07:41:05 AM »

I have to say that when I saw the video for We Are The Fire at a friend's house - we were both on the floor.

They've definitely improved since then.

Gadough · « **Reply #257 on:** August 21, 2011, 07:48:16 AM »

Anthem is probably the worst song on The Crusade.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #258 on:** August 23, 2011, 02:55:03 AM »

Got In Waves. It's... okay. After three listens, nothing really sticks out yet. I will give it some time, though. So far, I'm enjoying the bonus disc with the concert more than the actual album itself.

Arch Benemy · « **Reply #259 on:** August 23, 2011, 09:02:06 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on August 21, 2011, 07:41:05 AM

I have to say that when I saw the video for We Are The Fire at a friend's house - we were both on the floor.

They've definitely improved since then.

I agree with Gadough, that is by a mile the worst song on the album. Definitely worth checking out the album, even if you don't buy it. The title track is fantastic.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #260 on:** August 24, 2011, 11:41:05 PM »

Still not thrilled with this album, but Chaos Reigns is really good, as are a number of other songs which are growing on me.

What, exactly, is so terrible about the Crusade?

Gadough · « **Reply #261 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:22:46 AM »

I never said it's terrible. They changed their sound to more straightforward thrash metal with Hetfield-esque clean vocals with almost no harsh vocals. There was a fan backlash. So, even though it was a good album with good songs, the band decided to return to their previous style on their next album, Shogun. I placed it last on my ranking simply because it lacks some of the power that their other albums have, and because it sticks out in their discography.

Arch Benemy · « **Reply #262 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:56:38 AM »

Personally I think it's much better than Shogun. Tracks like Becoming the Dragon, To The Rats, Contempt Breeds Contamination and, as I mentioned before, the title track easily stand up to anything else in their discography for me. Yes the vocals take a little getting used to but they're not terrible by any stretch.

I am very glad though that they're gone back to incorporating screams. I think they were trying to 'do a Sevenfold' and thought that omitting those vocals would bring in a greater fan base, because they even started performing the older songs with clean vocals, which was awful just awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV5QDQ-YJok

wolfking · « **Reply #263 on:** August 25, 2011, 06:06:17 AM »

The Crusade is by far their weakest album.

Gadough · « **Reply #264 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:51:28 AM »

Quote from: Arch Benemy on August 25, 2011, 05:56:38 AM

because they even started performing the older songs with clean vocals, which was awful just awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV5QDQ-YJok

Wow

That was....well, let's just say I'm also glad he's screaming again.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #265 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:48:53 AM »

The music of In Waves is awesome. The weakest link, by far, is the vocals. Not the harsh vocals, mind you, but the clean ones. Which says a lot coming from me, since I don't really like harsh vocals very much.

wolfking · « **Reply #266 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:07:17 PM »

Quote from: Gadough on August 25, 2011, 07:51:28 AM

Quote from: Arch Benemy on August 25, 2011, 05:56:38 AM
because they even started performing the older songs with clean vocals, which was awful just awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV5QDQ-YJok

Wow

That was....well, let's just say I'm also glad he's screaming again.

I knew what that was going to be before even clicking on it. I remmeber watching those live clips before the release of Crusade. I was so dissapointed. I thought he was doing that though because he damaged his vocals chords. There was a lot of talk that Matt had ruined his vocal chords from screaming and they were not likely to ever scream again.

Arch Benemy · « **Reply #267 on:** August 25, 2011, 06:28:42 PM »

Dude I was at that festival. The crowd was good but just weren't into it the same way as they were the year before, when Trivium played the same stage but with the original style vocals, even though Heafy decided to spend most of the time away from the mic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMu8iMOE_SQ

faemir · « **Reply #268 on:** August 26, 2011, 05:36:15 AM »

New album is good, but not as good as Shogun.

Gadough · « **Reply #269 on:** August 26, 2011, 07:35:53 AM »

I agree.

wolfking · « **Reply #270 on:** August 26, 2011, 05:38:43 PM »

Matt Heafy - Built to Fall (acoustic)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgZck6zmCCQ&feature=feedu

OsMosis2259 · « **Reply #271 on:** September 05, 2011, 05:26:23 PM »

Live at Wacken Open Air 2011 HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62yMLy_xlag

Dark Castle · « **Reply #272 on:** September 06, 2011, 12:28:04 AM »

1.Ascendency
2.Shogun
3.In Waves
4.Ember Inferno
5.Crusade.
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Pretty much my problem with In Waves is that it's made for radio play, so the quality of the songs aren't what I think they could've been. But I've never liked Crusade, and still need to give Ember Inferno a listen, so thats my rankings.
I will say that his screams on In Waves are the best they've been since Ascendancy. His screams on Shogun were not the best.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #273 on:** September 06, 2011, 12:39:00 AM »

Haven't heard In Waves too much but I think Shogun has the best production on a metal album today. Or one of the best at the very least.

Millais · « **Reply #274 on:** September 06, 2011, 07:56:42 AM »

Quote from: faemir on August 26, 2011, 05:36:15 AM

New album is good, but not as good as Shogun.

Gadough · « **Reply #275 on:** September 06, 2011, 08:36:17 AM »

Quote from: Dark Castle on September 06, 2011, 12:28:04 AM

His screams on Shogun were not the best.

I didn't have a problem with them. They were fine.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #276 on:** September 06, 2011, 09:30:07 AM »

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on September 06, 2011, 12:39:00 AM

Haven't heard In Waves too much but I think Shogun has the best production on a metal album today. Or one of the best at the very least.

In Waves production is fantastic. I put it on after The Blackening and it was a lot quieter and seems to have a lot of headroom. Sounds great.

Yeah I know that's not saying much since The Blackening is horribly compressed but In Waves seems to breathe quite a lot more and the guitar sound is just incredible.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #277 on:** September 06, 2011, 09:55:29 AM »

Quote from: Gadough on September 06, 2011, 08:36:17 AM

Quote from: Dark Castle on September 06, 2011, 12:28:04 AM
His screams on Shogun were not the best.

I didn't have a problem with them. They were fine.

To me they sounded the most strained. Still a good album, but meh.

bosk1 · « **Reply #278 on:** September 07, 2011, 01:46:01 PM »

Just listenede to In Waves (song). I'm still undecided about whether to get this. I agree about the guitar tone sounding awsome. But, man, those screams just sound so stupid and drag everything down. Maybe I'll wait until after the DT show and see how I like them in a live setting.

FretMuppet · « **Reply #279 on:** September 07, 2011, 02:10:44 PM »

Quote from: bosk1 on September 07, 2011, 01:46:01 PM

Just listenede to In Waves (song). I'm still undecided about whether to get this. I agree about the guitar tone sounding awsome. But, man, those screams just sound so stupid and drag everything down. Maybe I'll wait until after the DT show and see how I like them in a live setting.

In Waves isn't really a good song to judge the band to be honest, they have better songs to represent who they are, like Into the Mouth of Hell We March, Like Light to the Flies, Ember to Inferno, Shogun, The Crusade, Caustic Are The Ties That Bind. I highly recommend those songs

Edit: In Waves (the song) is nothing without Capsizing The Sea as the intro

News: Track-by-track video for Paralyzed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5TbGbalPs&feature=youtu.be

Author Topic: The Trivium Thread (Read 103890 times)