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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #455 on: August 03, 2021, 06:25:47 AM »
When you consider that Neal probably doesn't want to return to having a whole tour reliant on Deen not falling off the wagon again , it probably makes more sense.

I thought of this too.

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« Reply #456 on: August 03, 2021, 06:33:33 AM »
When you consider that Neal probably doesn't want to return to having a whole tour reliant on Deen not falling off the wagon again , it probably makes more sense.
I could see if it was 6 months after Deen had his issues.  He's been sober for years and has put out 3 Revolution Saints albums (where he's the singer and drummer), a Gioeli-Castronovo album and been a touring/recording member of the Dead Daisies for 4 years.

Regardless, whatever the reason, I'm happy to see him back.

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« Reply #457 on: August 03, 2021, 07:59:10 AM »
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/journey-returns-to-live-stage-with-revamped-lineup-featuring-deen-castronovo-marco-mendoza-video/
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/journey/2021/aragon-ballroom-chicago-il-38f21a3.html
An extensive setlist. I hope Deen is singing some songs at least! I don't see Journey needing 2 drummers, but I really like that Deen is back in the band.

edit: Deen is singing Who's Crying Now, Mother Father, Open Arms and Faithfully (setlists photo, apparently from Jon’s Instagram account).

I’ve just watched videos from the show.  Arnel sang Open Arms, Faithfully and Who’s Crying Now.
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« Reply #458 on: August 03, 2021, 10:25:07 AM »
I’ve just watched videos from the show.  Arnel sang Open Arms, Faithfully and Who’s Crying Now.

Yeah, I think "Mother, Father" was the only song Deen sang.

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #459 on: August 03, 2021, 11:26:52 AM »
I’ve just watched videos from the show.  Arnel sang Open Arms, Faithfully and Who’s Crying Now.

Yeah, I think "Mother, Father" was the only song Deen sang.

And he sang that back in the day as well if memory serves me correctly.
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« Reply #460 on: August 03, 2021, 12:15:33 PM »
I’ve just watched videos from the show.  Arnel sang Open Arms, Faithfully and Who’s Crying Now.

Yeah, I think "Mother, Father" was the only song Deen sang.

And he sang that back in the day as well if memory serves me correctly.
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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #461 on: April 26, 2022, 07:49:19 PM »
New song, same Journey….

https://youtu.be/hxW9ALoYlds

Better than the other new song they released quite a few months ago, probably goes on too long.
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« Reply #462 on: April 26, 2022, 08:07:30 PM »
New song, same Journey….

https://youtu.be/hxW9ALoYlds

Better than the other new song they released quite a few months ago, probably goes on too long.

I like the song but there is something off about the performance. Feels like the drums are slightly behind tempo or something (and very boxy sounding, though I was listening on iPhone speakers). Especially on the chorus the band just don’t sound synced up.

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #463 on: April 26, 2022, 09:33:29 PM »
All I saw on the Facebook post were people commenting on how bad the mix was. Haven't heard the song yet. Is it that bad?
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« Reply #464 on: April 26, 2022, 09:39:07 PM »
All I saw on the Facebook post were people commenting on how bad the mix was. Haven't heard the song yet. Is it that bad?

Yes , but apparently there's a very inconsistent mix across the album , so some tracks sound a lot better than others  ???
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« Reply #465 on: April 26, 2022, 10:24:02 PM »
That is extremely weird.  :lol
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« Reply #466 on: April 26, 2022, 10:34:07 PM »
I don't know if this has anything to do with the final mix, but that YouTube video lists 5 different sound engineers for that one song (maybe all the instruments were tracked in separate places?). Wonder if the mixing was done by several different people as well resulting in an inconsistent album.

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #467 on: May 17, 2022, 08:07:04 AM »
Another new song has been released - "Let it Rain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMDpx-jcdKA&t=1s
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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #468 on: May 17, 2022, 01:38:02 PM »
This will be the first Journey album I'm not buying. Have not liked any of the new songs.

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« Reply #469 on: May 17, 2022, 02:44:48 PM »
This will be the first Journey album I'm not buying. Have not liked any of the new songs.

I enjoyed this one the most, even though it sounds the least like a classic Journey song (at least vocally to me). It's been hit-or-miss so far, which is a bummer considering this will likely be their last album right?

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« Reply #470 on: May 17, 2022, 06:37:09 PM »
Another new song has been released - "Let it Rain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMDpx-jcdKA&t=1s
I thought I was listening to Lenny Kravitz..  :lol
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« Reply #471 on: May 17, 2022, 06:42:50 PM »
Yeah..........this album is shaping up as a total shambles in all departments.
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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #472 on: May 17, 2022, 10:20:33 PM »
I enjoyed this one the most, even though it sounds the least like a classic Journey song (at least vocally to me). It's been hit-or-miss so far, which is a bummer considering this will likely be their last album right?

After Arnel joined, it really seemed like they hit the ground running with the 2008 album and the 2011 album. And then... we just stopped getting albums. I figured they just liked playing the classics live more. I was honestly surprised that this line-up is putting out another studio album after an eleven-year gap.
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« Reply #473 on: May 18, 2022, 05:45:22 AM »
If you didn’t tell me that was a Journey song I would have never guessed.

Different for sure.
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« Reply #474 on: May 18, 2022, 08:58:42 AM »
I enjoyed this one the most, even though it sounds the least like a classic Journey song (at least vocally to me). It's been hit-or-miss so far, which is a bummer considering this will likely be their last album right?

After Arnel joined, it really seemed like they hit the ground running with the 2008 album and the 2011 album. And then... we just stopped getting albums. I figured they just liked playing the classics live more. I was honestly surprised that this line-up is putting out another studio album after an eleven-year gap.

I remember hearing at some point that Neal Schon was disappointed by the reaction to Eclipse and decided to focus on the older material instead of releasing new albums. I have no idea if that is true or not and I don't have a source other than I heard/read it years ago somewhere.

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« Reply #475 on: May 18, 2022, 12:10:33 PM »
I thought it was Jonathan Cain who wanted to focus on just playing their catalog rather than writing new music.

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #476 on: May 18, 2022, 02:09:04 PM »
I think it’s correct and Neal was the one who wanted to release new material. That, among other things, was one of the main reasons for the tension between them in recent years.
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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #477 on: July 14, 2022, 07:46:00 PM »
I listened to the new album a few days ago and still can't get over how shit the production is.

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #478 on: July 15, 2022, 01:51:18 AM »
I listened to half of it and fell asleep. Can‘t believe that this is the best they have to offer after so many years.

And yes, the production is awful.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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« Reply #479 on: August 14, 2022, 06:07:08 PM »
Rick Beato breaks down his favorite Journey song, which happens to be one of if not my favorite Journey songs as well, Still They Ride.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR2e3H0-JyF-58181yoKbLNkWGQTHXLKNZbr4AOu4R2nPJhhQU6pjdQf2m8&v=YTTZStAK8Hk&feature=youtu.be

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #480 on: August 15, 2022, 07:49:15 AM »
Rick Beato breaks down his favorite Journey song, which happens to be one of if not my favorite Journey songs as well, Still They Ride.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR2e3H0-JyF-58181yoKbLNkWGQTHXLKNZbr4AOu4R2nPJhhQU6pjdQf2m8&v=YTTZStAK8Hk&feature=youtu.be
Yep, saw that yesterday.

I always knew it was a great song (probably my favorite Journey song), but it's nice to see proof of how it's so awesome lol
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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #481 on: August 15, 2022, 08:01:59 AM »
It's hard to beat Separate Ways though :P
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« Reply #482 on: August 15, 2022, 08:06:08 AM »
It's hard to beat Separate Ways though :P

Well, I’ve got a video to share for that too!

Steve Smith demos the drum parts for Separate Ways:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iQlhFv0CdGY

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« Reply #483 on: August 15, 2022, 08:33:53 PM »
It's hard to beat Separate Ways though :P

Well, I’ve got a video to share for that too!

Steve Smith demos the drum parts for Separate Ways:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iQlhFv0CdGY

Ha! You beat me to it. Watched this too, a few days ago. Love his drumming so much.

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #484 on: August 15, 2022, 08:43:57 PM »
Another new song has been released - "Let it Rain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMDpx-jcdKA&t=1s
I thought I was listening to Lenny Kravitz..  :lol

What the hell?? I would have never guessed this was Journey. Yikes.

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« Reply #485 on: August 15, 2022, 08:46:46 PM »
I listened to the new album today. Huge disappointment.  Eclipse was a revelation for me.  The new album is so boring to me.
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« Reply #486 on: August 15, 2022, 08:55:36 PM »
It’s great if people get enjoyment out of Journey as an ongoing venture, but I’m satisfied with the catalog up through when Perry left. I did pick up Eclipse just to give Arnel a chance, but it didn’t land for me.

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #487 on: August 16, 2022, 08:19:42 AM »
I think with Arnel and before that with Augeri they released some good records, not groundbreaking and not as good as Escape & Frontiers but still enjoyable. But this new one has nothing that is worth listening imo.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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Re: The Journey Thread
« Reply #488 on: August 16, 2022, 08:23:30 AM »
IMO there is a mix of good/okay/bad tunes on the new record but the production is shit, and that's a big problem. Schon would have been better off not co-producing it and getting an external producer but I know that would never happen.

I am hoping they add more songs to their setlist because I think some of them will be good live. Hoping to catch a show if they tour in the fall or spring of '23.

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« Reply #489 on: August 16, 2022, 11:43:12 AM »
I tried. It’s bland and boring.
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