The Journey Thread

[Samsara]

I listened to a few songs from the new one...not my thing.

Eclipse was a really good record. The best with Arnel, in my opinion. And probably the best Journey record since Trial By Fire with Perry.

I have to be honest, the best Journey singer not named Steve Perry sits behind Journey's drum kit. And while I understand him being more comfortable there, and Arnel's story is wonderful and he's a good singer too, I can't get past it. Deen Castronovo is the guy who does the most justice to Steve Perry's parts. I mean, come on, Mother/Father is amazing. When I saw Neal Schon's Journey Through Time a few years back, it was incredible.

No shade at Arnel. The guy is a good singer, has a wonderful story, and I'm happy for him. But the new material that I've heard, it just...sits there. It's not very exciting.

[King Postwhore]

But that's not Arnel's fault. It's Schon and Cain's issue. 

[ProfessorPeart]

Now Cain and Schon are going at it in court.

https://www.loudersound.com/news/jonathan-cain-responds-to-neal-schon-lawsuit-accuses-him-of-malicious-lies

[King Postwhore]

Shitshow. Cain looks guilty.

[Kwyjibo]

After putting out the last record, they all are guilty. 

[KevShmev]

Shitshow. Cain looks guilty.

Somewhere, Steve Perry is having a good laugh, to not only be away from the shitshow, but to still be getting paid when they tour. He's like the Bobby Bonilla of the rock world! 

[TAC]

Shitshow. Cain looks guilty.

Somewhere, Steve Perry is having a good laugh, to not only be away from the shitshow, but to still be getting paid when they tour. He's like the Bobby Bonilla of the rock world! 

Don't Stop Receiving


Wait...how/why is Perry paid when they tour?

[KevShmev]

Shitshow. Cain looks guilty.

Somewhere, Steve Perry is having a good laugh, to not only be away from the shitshow, but to still be getting paid when they tour. He's like the Bobby Bonilla of the rock world! 

Don't Stop Receiving


Wait...how/why is Perry paid when they tour?

I can't remember the specifics, but it was an agreement they came to years ago where he gets paid a percentage every time they release a new studio album or tour.  I think it drops each time, but it remains in place, IIRC.  Neal Schon sounds like a complete idiot when it comes to managing money, so it's not surprising that he would have failed to see the long term disaster that would be and agreed to it.

[TAC]

A new studio album? Wow, that is dumb. Perry is not even an original member.

[KevShmev]

I don't think being an original member matters all that much, generally speaking. Perry was a part of their most iconic lineup, and that matters far more.

[TAC]

Are they unable to play the songs he helped write live? Is that a thing?

[King Postwhore]

Are they unable to play the songs he helped write live? Is that a thing?

No, they can play anything they want.  He just got a great deal when he was bought out.  Perry made a power play before the Raised on Radio album and put him into the position to work out this deal.

[TAC]

Yeah, I've been doing a little googling. It all seems so fucked.

[HOF]

I don't think being an original member matters all that much, generally speaking. Perry was a part of their most iconic lineup, and that matters far more.

Perry’s still a board member of the Journey corporation I believe, and it dates back to his first stint in the band. Schon has basically been clashing with everyone over everything lately. He’s a guy who dropped out of school at a young age to join Santana, and I think you can sort of tell he’s not the smartest guy in the world when he talks.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/journey-neal-schon-steve-perry/

[Deathless]

So originally Schon filed a lawsuit against Cain to get access to an Amex account, but it turns out he has access but is restricted from raising the spending limits? Wow.

Also I'm sure this behavior is more common (or has happened) with larger/established bands, but using a band account for personal spending is gross. It's a shame that this is happening as my wife and I were hoping to catch them on tour next year. 

[romdrums]

Sounds like Schon and Cain need to go their separate ways.

[King Postwhore]

Sounds like Schon and Cain need to go their separate ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBgB-oKe0SM

[emtee]

Sounds like Schon and Cain need to go their separate ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBgB-oKe0SM

Portnoy is such a BEAST!

[KevShmev]

Sounds like Schon and Cain need to go their separate ways.

Yeah, I don't see them greeting each other with open arms anytime soon.

[romdrums]

Sounds like Schon and Cain need to go their separate ways.

Yeah, I don't see them greeting each other with open arms anytime soon.

[jammindude]

Sounds like Schon and Cain need to go their separate ways.

Yeah, I don't see them greeting each other with open arms anytime soon.

Guess The Party's Over....   

[King Postwhore]

This is just a bunch of chain reactions with your posts.

[HOF]

All of these lawsuits are just another trial by fire.

[jammindude]

I wasn't going to join in, but then I decided I was just feelin that way.

[bosk1]

STOP IT! You guys have crossed the Rubicon.

[WilliamMunny]

STOP IT! You guys have crossed the Rubicon.

Don’t gimme no backtalk!

[jammindude]

I think we’ve really…opened the door…to something, anyway.

[KevShmev]

It'll all make sense someday soon.

[Lonk]

It'll all make sense someday soon.

I'm Patiently waiting.

[Snow Dog]

When this is all over, I guess we’ll see who’s crying now.

[Adami]

I guess their...journey...together is at an end.


Sorry, I don't know enough of their songs to be more clever.

[T-ski]

Anyway they want it, that’s the way they’ll get it.

[jammindude]

Guys, do you recall when this was a functioning band? 

[Zydar]

As soon as I entered this thread, I wanted to Escape 

[jammindude]

Better get out now before it's....Too Late