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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #910 on: April 23, 2011, 07:14:53 AM »
Hey, Peter! Thanks for posting here.

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #911 on: April 23, 2011, 07:20:57 AM »
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.

They have always been big fans of spectacle. This documentary still looks infinitely less cheesy then the Metropolis 2000 DVD for example.

With this they get to generate a fair of amount of hype/publicity while giving us a peak at auditions. Are you saying you don't like the idea of people like seeing people like Marco Minneman or Thomas Lang jamming with Dream Theater? It may be a tad OTT, but I definitely rather have a good show out of it rather then them just say "the drummer is XXX" and move on.

Plus this way we get to see how whoever they chose melds with the band instead of guessing how they'll play based on on past projects so it should kill a fair amount of whining (though this is probably very wishful thinking on my pat  :P).

I think it is the Apprentice style, reality TV vibe the trailer has, is what rubs me the wrong way.

I'd love for a straight up documentary about this major time of change in DT history. Metropolis 2000 was produced by a member of DT who was trying to convey a story line. A completely made up story line. Cheesy or not, is was made BY DT. I'd put my life on the line in betting DT outsourced this latest production, which in turn has a more mainstream vibe (extra cheese).

Like I said before... If the songs are solid that's all that will matter to me in the end. I'll eat my negative words. But I won't be embracing the cookie cutter, reality TV BS that the public eats up.

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« Reply #912 on: April 23, 2011, 07:26:27 AM »
I really doubt that the actual documentary is going to be "reality TV" style.  All that stuff, I think, was added in the editing of the promo.  They auditioned all 7 guys over a 3-day period.  I don't see how that would lend itself to a reality-style elimination set-up

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #913 on: April 23, 2011, 07:41:35 AM »
Good point. I hope you are right. What I want to happen is I have to eat ALL of my words! :-)

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #914 on: April 23, 2011, 09:26:58 AM »
I really doubt that the actual documentary is going to be "reality TV" style.  All that stuff, I think, was added in the editing of the promo.  They auditioned all 7 guys over a 3-day period.  I don't see how that would lend itself to a reality-style elimination set-up
I think that nobody here even was thinking that DT will make a reality show from choosing new drummer, with eliminations and etc.... It's just, you know, it's hard to focus on the music when you have camera's and fotographer's around you, especially in the audition time...

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #915 on: April 23, 2011, 09:28:12 AM »
I really doubt that the actual documentary is going to be "reality TV" style.  All that stuff, I think, was added in the editing of the promo.  They auditioned all 7 guys over a 3-day period.  I don't see how that would lend itself to a reality-style elimination set-up

This...

I think it's going to be a documentary, not AI DT version.

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #916 on: April 23, 2011, 09:58:24 AM »
Man, just watched this video of Virgil Donati:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aEz_nr8p8

Seeing that video, he probably listened to the practice songs on the flight to NYC and then just pulled it off :lol

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #917 on: April 23, 2011, 10:32:46 AM »
I think that as Peter W is posting here himself, one can actually see how much DTF cares for musicians and DT in general. People might bitch here at times but if someone comes here being so nice and informative, nobody would even want to drive him/her off.

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« Reply #918 on: April 23, 2011, 10:34:30 AM »
Man, just watched this video of Virgil Donati:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aEz_nr8p8

Seeing that video, he probably listened to the practice songs on the flight to NYC and then just pulled it off :lol

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #919 on: April 23, 2011, 11:18:44 AM »
Man, just watched this video of Virgil Donati:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aEz_nr8p8

Seeing that video, he probably listened to the practice songs on the flight to NYC and then just pulled it off :lol

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #920 on: April 23, 2011, 11:28:00 AM »
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.

They have always been big fans of spectacle. This documentary still looks infinitely less cheesy then the Metropolis 2000 DVD for example.

With this they get to generate a fair of amount of hype/publicity while giving us a peak at auditions. Are you saying you don't like the idea of people like seeing people like Marco Minneman or Thomas Lang jamming with Dream Theater? It may be a tad OTT, but I definitely rather have a good show out of it rather then them just say "the drummer is XXX" and move on.

Plus this way we get to see how whoever they chose melds with the band instead of guessing how they'll play based on on past projects so it should kill a fair amount of whining (though this is probably very wishful thinking on my pat  :P).

I think it is the Apprentice style, reality TV vibe the trailer has, is what rubs me the wrong way.

I'd love for a straight up documentary about this major time of change in DT history. Metropolis 2000 was produced by a member of DT who was trying to convey a story line. A completely made up story line. Cheesy or not, is was made BY DT. I'd put my life on the line in betting DT outsourced this latest production, which in turn has a more mainstream vibe (extra cheese).

Like I said before... If the songs are solid that's all that will matter to me in the end. I'll eat my negative words. But I won't be embracing the cookie cutter, reality TV BS that the public eats up.

This is a documentary about the process of auditioning and selecting one drummer. There will be no voting off or eliminations or tribal council. These are highly respected musicians, not Snooki or Adam Lambert looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #921 on: April 23, 2011, 11:29:19 AM »
I think that as Peter W is posting here himself, one can actually see how much DTF cares for musicians and DT in general. People might bitch here at times but if someone comes here being so nice and informative, nobody would even want to drive him/her off.

I think we're pretty good at judging people by their posts. But, we've certainly also driven away certain "celebrities" if they happened to post like total dickwads. :D

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #922 on: April 23, 2011, 12:31:35 PM »
When I heard Dream Theater were going to have a huge audition, the first thing I thought was, "I hope they make it into a documentary!" I also wanted to see what kind of access they would give their fans, because you know if they were auditioning a new bassist, Portnoy would have had a camera there every second. I wanted to see if that kind of thing would continue.

Note the word continue. Dream Theater have always given fans crazy insight into their business, going over and above in the form of commentaries, documentaries and forum posts. The notion that Dream Theater are now about the "theater" and not the "dream" makes literally no sense at all. None. Nada. Zip.

Furthermore, what is so bad about making a trailer for the documentary? And even if it was the worst thing in the world, who says they made the trailer? Why couldn't Road Runner have put the trailer together? Or why couldn't the band's management have put the trailer together?

And what is with people being so impatient about the announcement of the new drummer? All I see everywhere is, "JUST ANNOUNCE IT ALREADY. STOP WITH ALL THIS REALITY TV BULLSHIT AND ANNOUNCE IT. DT ARE SELL-OUTS!"

How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #923 on: April 23, 2011, 12:33:18 PM »
^Good post, if a bit poorly worded. :)

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #924 on: April 23, 2011, 12:41:57 PM »
^Good post, if a bit poorly worded. :)

It wasn't poorly worded. But... Thanks?
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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #925 on: April 23, 2011, 12:43:01 PM »
At the end you called people morons and such, but hey! We cool, homes, since I don't fall into that category...I have a life. :tup

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« Reply #926 on: April 23, 2011, 12:44:55 PM »
Sorry James. I'm not as nice as you. :(
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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #927 on: April 23, 2011, 12:51:44 PM »
Sorry James. I'm not as nice as you. :(

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« Reply #928 on: April 23, 2011, 01:04:19 PM »
How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

Morons.

Dude, what is wrong with you?

Look at it from the other side. I think it's fairly obvious that they didn't announce the drummer because they were waiting for the production of the documentary to finish so they could announce the drummer with the doc. But, the problem now is that after so much time, all drummers have been accounted for, and the announcement of Mangini as the drummer will be a total non-event. That's what people are reacting to.

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #929 on: April 23, 2011, 01:06:37 PM »
How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

Morons.

Dude, what is wrong with you?

Look at it from the other side. I think it's fairly obvious that they didn't announce the drummer because they were waiting for the production of the documentary to finish so they could announce the drummer with the doc. But, the problem now is that after so much time, all drummers have been accounted for, and the announcement of Mangini as the drummer will be a total non-event. That's what people are reacting to.

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Doesn't entirely make sense... if they already "know" it's Mike Mangini, why would they be getting antsy for an announcement?

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« Reply #930 on: April 23, 2011, 01:08:01 PM »
I think it's more of a "ach, for fuck's sake, announce it already. We know who it is anyway" sentiment. I for one am interested in the documentary, but the actual announcement ... eh.

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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #931 on: April 23, 2011, 01:11:21 PM »
TOX, although you didn't insult anyone by name you should know that sort of tone directed at a good number of people is unacceptable here, c'mon.
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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #932 on: April 23, 2011, 01:20:38 PM »
I should have clarified: I was reacting more to the hoards of people I see commenting on articles I read around the internet - including Blabbermouth, Facebook and YouTube - than here.

I also disagree about everyone knowing it's Mangini. I am still seeing a lot of people who still think other drummers have a chance.*

*Then again, these are the same people calling Dream Theater sell-outs for releasing a documentary with a trailer.
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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #933 on: April 23, 2011, 01:24:59 PM »
Is it just me or does Marco Minneman sound EXACTLY like Tom Green? I kept watching the clip trying to place who he sounded like and it finally hit me. I'm the backwards man the backwards man... :lol I got a job playing drums in this band. Can I borrow $50 bucks for...drumsticks and stuff?

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« Reply #934 on: April 23, 2011, 01:27:23 PM »
Yeah, TOX that was strange because I haven't seen anyone here (the closest being Loser1) calling DT "sell-outs". Maybe at Facebook and YouTube, yet again, what do you expect from a place like that (YouTube).

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« Reply #935 on: April 23, 2011, 01:31:58 PM »
I think DT's getting a fairly good feedback with all of this that's happening. I mean, it was a very hard situation for them and I think they're handling it very nicely.
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« Reply #936 on: April 23, 2011, 01:43:30 PM »
Yeah, TOX that was strange because I haven't seen anyone here (the closest being Loser1) calling DT "sell-outs". Maybe at Facebook and YouTube, yet again, what do you expect from a place like that (YouTube).

Right. Normally I wouldn't worry too much about that kind of thing, but in this case, I saw people I know on Facebook saying those things. The majority of the fanbase probably isn't thinking like that, but enough are that it's getting a little silly.
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Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
« Reply #937 on: April 23, 2011, 01:45:46 PM »
When I heard Dream Theater were going to have a huge audition, the first thing I thought was, "I hope they make it into a documentary!" I also wanted to see what kind of access they would give their fans, because you know if they were auditioning a new bassist, Portnoy would have had a camera there every second. I wanted to see if that kind of thing would continue.

Note the word continue. Dream Theater have always given fans crazy insight into their business, going over and above in the form of commentaries, documentaries and forum posts. The notion that Dream Theater are now about the "theater" and not the "dream" makes literally no sense at all. None. Nada. Zip.

Furthermore, what is so bad about making a trailer for the documentary? And even if it was the worst thing in the world, who says they made the trailer? Why couldn't Road Runner have put the trailer together? Or why couldn't the band's management have put the trailer together?

And what is with people being so impatient about the announcement of the new drummer? All I see everywhere is, "JUST ANNOUNCE IT ALREADY. STOP WITH ALL THIS REALITY TV BULLSHIT AND ANNOUNCE IT. DT ARE SELL-OUTS!"

How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

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« Reply #938 on: April 23, 2011, 01:47:31 PM »
A bit off-topic, but I just paused the video just before James says "welcome you to the family" and Myung is actually smiling! It seems like that was a very very special moment for the DT guys.
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« Reply #939 on: April 23, 2011, 01:57:36 PM »
I realize a lot of the  whining over the doc is happening on other forums, where maybe they're not getting a lot of the tidbits we've gathered here?  I mean, didn't Derek Roddy pretty much confirm that there were legal issues with regards to the timing of the announcement?  That jives with what many of the folks around here have speculated for months.  Also, I know way back in the drummer thread here it was mentioned that we thought MP didn't have any DT stuff, i.e... vids, recorded projects, still in play.  After watching the interview he did yesterday, he made mention...of unfinished projects and he seemed uncomfy or cautious talking about it.  Is it possible that could be part of any legal issue?  A project that was started before the split, but he wants too finish?  

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« Reply #940 on: April 23, 2011, 02:02:44 PM »
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« Reply #941 on: April 23, 2011, 02:03:35 PM »
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« Reply #942 on: April 23, 2011, 02:08:47 PM »
CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.
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« Reply #943 on: April 23, 2011, 02:22:03 PM »
CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.

I agree with those two.  I was thinking though, some kind of actual production project.  Something he had invested time and money into, with the blessing of the band, that he wanted to complete to possibly get a financial return on.

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« Reply #944 on: April 23, 2011, 02:22:31 PM »
WILDOER WAS HERE AND I MISSED IT. DAMN IT. :\


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