"Birther" bill passes in Arizona legislature

[PlaysLikeMyung]

I think he saw that

[Adami]

I think he saw that

Oh the dollar amount was random. Both threads are equally pointless, as is any thread that contains anywhere in it the words Obama and EpicView.

[Perpetual Change]

I think he saw that

Oh the dollar amount was random. Both threads are equally pointless, as is any thread that contains anywhere in it the words Obama and EpicView.

Glad I'm not the only one noticing that

[Orbert]

Same here.

[eric42434224]

Same here.

Indeed

[EPICVIEW]

should I try to fit in? to me you all are the ones not in the know..but Im ok with it, hoping one day you all see the light...

is having a different view some sort of problem??

[EPICVIEW]

62% of America does NOT believe Obama is from the USA..
USA TODAY POLL
so why do you all think he is?

https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2011-04-25-trump-president-poll.htm

[EPICVIEW]

I think he saw that

Oh the dollar amount was random. Both threads are equally pointless, as is any thread that contains anywhere in it the words Obama and EpicView.

is this on topic? or are only my posts deamed off topic?...

[Perpetual Change]

First off, Epicview, there's an edit button. Secondly, your statistics are skewed and bogus.

62% of America does NOT believe Obama is from the USA..
USA TODAY POLL
so why do you all think he is?

https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2011-04-25-trump-president-poll.htm

Here's the citation:

Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere.

The poll doesn't add up to 100. Only 24 percent lean toward him not being a citizen, and of them only 9 are sure of themselves. That's some 62 percent you've got there. 3 in 10 say they don't know enough to say. In short, more than half think he's a citizen, about a quarter think he's not, and a third don't know or don't care. And just look at the Trump statistics: By your logic, "37 percent of Americans don't believe Donald Trump was born in the USA." See how ridiculous you're being? Good.

This kinda of exaggeration and lying about stats you find randomly is, by the way, one reason why your posts tend to annoy. You pull stuff like this often, too, so why are you surprised that everyone's highly skeptical of the stuff you go claiming in every thread?

[eric42434224]

Well said PC.

To blanantly skew basic poll information like that and come to such a ridiculous conclusion only shows how much Epicview WANTS and NEEDS to dislike Obama.  There is very little objectivity in any of his posts.  His position is pre-determined, set in stone, and feuled by emotion.

[EPICVIEW]

First off, Epicview, there's an edit button. Secondly, your statistics are skewed and bogus.

62% of America does NOT believe Obama is from the USA..
USA TODAY POLL
so why do you all think he is?

https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2011-04-25-trump-president-poll.htm

Here's the citation:

Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere.

The poll doesn't add up to 100. Only 24 percent lean toward him not being a citizen, and of them only 9 are sure of themselves. That's some 62 percent you've got there. 3 in 10 say they don't know enough to say. In short, more than half think he's a citizen, about a quarter think he's not, and a third don't know or don't care. And just look at the Trump statistics: By your logic, "37 percent of Americans don't believe Donald Trump was born in the USA." See how ridiculous you're being? Good.

This kinda of exaggeration and lying about stats you find randomly is, by the way, one reason why your posts tend to annoy. You pull stuff like this often, too, so why are you surprised that everyone's highly skeptical of the stuff you go claiming in every thread?

look at Drudge, thats how it was headlined...

[Perpetual Change]

Maybe you should stop getting things from drudge? I'm just saying, this seems to be an ongoing problem. If this isn't your doing and is drudges, I'm happy to know that. Surely there are conservative news sources where you can find opinions on news that aren't misleading titled?

[EPICVIEW]

The Question is why does anyone have any doubt?
and we see MANY do..
if 35% dont think he was born here is a HUGE issue..

its USA today..

[Perpetual Change]

It's 24. 37 was the number for Trump. 

[EPICVIEW]

from the article

I dont know where you guys get your math from but its a simple statement in the article

"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere."

sooo 100-38= 62

62% are UNSURE if Obama is from the USA... very simple

[eric42434224]

Maybe you should stop getting things from drudge? I'm just saying, this seems to be an ongoing problem. If this isn't your doing and is drudges, I'm happy to know that. Surely there are conservative news sources where you can find opinions on news that aren't misleading titled?

God forbid you open the link, and actually read the article with the poll.  It just proves my point, that EV has such a hard-on for anti-Obama anything, that he cant even take the 2 seconds to see if it is just sensationalistic BS.
Does he believe every spam email that he can increase his penis 6 inches?  Probably not.  But see a link that Obama is from another planet, and it must be true.

[Adami]

from the article

I dont know where you guys get your math from but its a simple statement in the article

"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere."

sooo 100-38= 62

62% are UNSURE if Obama is from the USA... very simple

15+9=24

The way you did it is not the proper way to determine statistics.

[EPICVIEW]

Well said PC.

To blanantly skew basic poll information like that and come to such a ridiculous conclusion only shows how much Epicview WANTS and NEEDS to dislike Obama.  There is very little objectivity in any of his posts.  His position is pre-determined, set in stone, and feuled by emotion.

now the USA today is a GOP leaning paper?

my view is based in FACTS...your chearleading for Obama is the only emotion..as any stats on Obama are horrible.. nothing is good..the misery index shows this....

I dont need emotion to know he is fraud, and his policies are horrible and his associations are terrible

name 5 good things Obama has done?

[Perpetual Change]

from the article

I dont know where you guys get your math from but its a simple statement in the article

"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere."

sooo 100-38= 62

62% are UNSURE if Obama is from the USA... very simple

It's a twisted way of presenting the poll and if you really consider that honest you are worse off than I thought.

[EPICVIEW]

from the article

I dont know where you guys get your math from but its a simple statement in the article

"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere."

sooo 100-38= 62

62% are UNSURE if Obama is from the USA... very simple

15+9=24

The way you did it is not the proper way to determine statistics.

actually it was

[eric42434224]

from the article

I dont know where you guys get your math from but its a simple statement in the article

"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere."

sooo 100-38= 62

62% are UNSURE if Obama is from the USA... very simple

"For what it’s worth, not everyone is convinced Trump was born in the USA either: 43% say he definitely was born here, and 20% say he probably was; 7% say he definitely or probably was born in another country. Nearly three in 10 say they don’t know enough to say."

So 100-43=57
You are willing to vote for a guy that 57% of Americans are not sure was born in America?

[Adami]

https://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1842179,00.html

According to that, from 2008, 55% of Americans believe in angels.

I don't think any of us put too much stock into what most Americans think.

[EPICVIEW]

https://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1842179,00.html

According to that, from 2008, 55% of Americans believe in angels.

I don't think any of us put too much stock into what most Americans think.

who cares.. stay on subject..

[Perpetual Change]

Oh fuck me. EpicView gets told his way of presenting statistics is dishonest which is very clear and easily demonstrated, and instead of admitting it he's going back to crying about  "Name 5 good things Obama is done!" and "BUT THE ASSOCIATIONS!" Please, never tell anyone to stay on topic again.

Are we really letting this go on here again? Really? Mods?

WTF is going on here.

[Adami]

https://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1842179,00.html

According to that, from 2008, 55% of Americans believe in angels.

I don't think any of us put too much stock into what most Americans think.

who cares.. stay on subject..

I am. I am discrediting your source.

[EPICVIEW]

https://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1842179,00.html

According to that, from 2008, 55% of Americans believe in angels.

I don't think any of us put too much stock into what most Americans think.

who cares.. stay on subject..

I am. I am discrediting your source.

Your not..you are just being one of the gang

[eric42434224]

EV, why would you vote for a candidate that 57% of Americans are not sure was born in America?

[Perpetual Change]

from the article

I dont know where you guys get your math from but its a simple statement in the article

"Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere."

sooo 100-38= 62

62% are UNSURE if Obama is from the USA... very simple

"For what it’s worth, not everyone is convinced Trump was born in the USA either: 43% say he definitely was born here, and 20% say he probably was; 7% say he definitely or probably was born in another country. Nearly three in 10 say they don’t know enough to say."

So 100-43=57
You are willing to vote for a guy that 57% of Americans are not sure was born in America?

LOL. Exactly.

[EPICVIEW]

oh you scoundrels...

4 vs 1 = Epic Win!

the poll is very easy to interpret, I dont know what they teach the youth now adays

[Perpetual Change]

EV, why would you vote for a candidate that 57% of Americans are not sure was born in America?

[EPICVIEW]

EV, why would you vote for a candidate that 57% of Americans are not sure was born in America?

LOL...Trump Ive met, good guy.. fun guy..and he says he will produce his BC..no problem, if he wont..I wont vote for him..!!

[Perpetual Change]

https://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

[EPICVIEW]

Oh fuck me. EpicView gets told his way of presenting statistics is dishonest which is very clear and easily demonstrated, and instead of admitting it he's going back to crying about  "Name 5 good things Obama is done!" and "BUT THE ASSOCIATIONS!" Please, never tell anyone to stay on topic again.

Are we really letting this go on here again? Really? Mods?

WTF is going on here.

Im going to ask you to again stop the cursing..and stop period. I have done nothing but discuss the USA poll

[eric42434224]

PC, you should know by now that the standard of proof is not the same for someone EV likes and someone EV dislikes.

[EPICVIEW]

PC,

You can post it all day.. people are not believing it as vaild...Im NOT 62% of America, Im just me.

thats the subject.  call the USA Today show it to them.

Corsi has a book on this,

so I ask, why do 62% of the USA say the are not sure he wa born here? If I was Obama Id put this to bed and show the long form...there is no need to attack me, Im just saying that would end it..