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« Reply #6230 on: April 15, 2019, 11:50:10 AM »
As far as the reveal to Jon that he's in fact a Targaryn and the rightful heir to the throne....same sentiment. I'd have liked to see that happen in a more impactful environment....being revealed to more than just Jon in the moment.

I'll trust it'll all work its way out in the end but those two moments deserved to be something more grand scale IMO.

Weren't Ned's last words to Jon "Next time we see each other, we'll talk about your mother"? Jon was told in front of his statue in the crypts.

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« Reply #6231 on: April 15, 2019, 11:56:26 AM »
As far as the reveal to Jon that he's in fact a Targaryn and the rightful heir to the throne....same sentiment. I'd have liked to see that happen in a more impactful environment....being revealed to more than just Jon in the moment.

I'll trust it'll all work its way out in the end but those two moments deserved to be something more grand scale IMO.

Weren't Ned's last words to Jon "Next time we see each other, we'll talk about your mother"? Jon was told in front of his statue in the crypts.

That's pretty neat. Again....I didn't mind the two moments, they were handled just fine........it's one of those instances where I had convinced myself both those moments would have been handled differently than they were.
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« Reply #6232 on: April 15, 2019, 12:01:45 PM »
As far as the reveal to Jon that he's in fact a Targaryn and the rightful heir to the throne....same sentiment. I'd have liked to see that happen in a more impactful environment....being revealed to more than just Jon in the moment.

I'll trust it'll all work its way out in the end but those two moments deserved to be something more grand scale IMO.

Weren't Ned's last words to Jon "Next time we see each other, we'll talk about your mother"? Jon was told in front of his statue in the crypts.

That's pretty neat. Again....I didn't mind the two moments, they were handled just fine........it's one of those instances where I had convinced myself both those moments would have been handled differently than they were.

Yeah, I hear you.

I'm torn about the dragon riding thing, tbh. I mean, had the first time Jon gotten on the dragon been in a critical moment, like a battle or something, I would have been complaining about how he was able to fight on the back of a dragon having never ridden one before. I actually expected Jon to ride one of them in private. Like he would just walking about one night, unable to sleep, and then one of the dragons would seek him out and let him get on, in the process also realizing that the only way that's possible is because he's blood. I thought both moments would have been one in the same, if that makes sense.

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« Reply #6233 on: April 15, 2019, 12:21:22 PM »
As far as the reveal to Jon that he's in fact a Targaryn and the rightful heir to the throne....same sentiment. I'd have liked to see that happen in a more impactful environment....being revealed to more than just Jon in the moment.

I'll trust it'll all work its way out in the end but those two moments deserved to be something more grand scale IMO.

Weren't Ned's last words to Jon "Next time we see each other, we'll talk about your mother"? Jon was told in front of his statue in the crypts.

That's pretty neat. Again....I didn't mind the two moments, they were handled just fine........it's one of those instances where I had convinced myself both those moments would have been handled differently than they were.

Yeah, I hear you.

I'm torn about the dragon riding thing, tbh. I mean, had the first time Jon gotten on the dragon been in a critical moment, like a battle or something, I would have been complaining about how he was able to fight on the back of a dragon having never ridden one before. I actually expected Jon to ride one of them in private. Like he would just walking about one night, unable to sleep, and then one of the dragons would seek him out and let him get on, in the process also realizing that the only way that's possible is because he's blood. I thought both moments would have been one in the same, if that makes sense.

I think the only thing that really 'bothers' me about the way it happened is that moment was a bit too 'bachelor' for me.....the romantic getaway date  :lol  The entire vibe of the scene was way too happy for GOT....but again, I think they were going for a chance to show just how much those two care for one another now. Like you said....had he just hopped on Rhaegal out of nowhere and started to ride him into battle that'd have been odd. At least now it'll seem more 'realistic' when/if he mounts him to go into battle.

But I did think they did a good job of showing a bit of emotion in Rhaegal when he gazed at Jon snow. I'm going to re-watch that later tonight but even before Jon climbed aboard Rhaegal was giving him an approving look to where he knew that Jon was Targaryn and it was 'all good' for him to climb on.
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Re: Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread
« Reply #6234 on: April 15, 2019, 12:22:33 PM »
^^ The green one that Jon rode is Rhaegal. The red one looking at Jon is Drogon. Viserion is the dead one ;)
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« Reply #6235 on: April 15, 2019, 12:24:32 PM »
^^ The green one that Jon rode is Rhaegal. The red one looking at Jon is Drogon. Viserion is the dead one ;)

Oh yeah....that's right. Duh. I had Viserion on my mind from a different text thread I have going with my buddies.  :tup
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« Reply #6236 on: April 15, 2019, 01:19:13 PM »
All I needed to know it was back was the first dialogue of the season being Tyrion making eunuch jokes about freezing balls.
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« Reply #6237 on: April 15, 2019, 01:34:29 PM »
I think it was last season where someone asked Tyrion why he makes eunuch jokes and the exchange was:

Tyrion: I make eunuch jokes, he makes dwarf jokes.

Varys: I do not make dwarf jokes.

Tyrion: You think them.

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« Reply #6238 on: April 15, 2019, 01:52:09 PM »
I was okay with the episode but was not blown away. We'll see what happens in the next few.

One moment that really had me rolling was when just after the dragons started flying together, with Jon and Dany on their backs, my son-in-law starting singing the opening lines to "A Whole New World."  :lol
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« Reply #6239 on: April 15, 2019, 03:12:46 PM »
Finally saw it. Solid episode through and through, no complaints at all from me. Yes, if we think long and hard enough, we can find something to nitpick about (for example Theon finding Euron's ships as discussed above), but all things considered it was a very nice episode. Too bad there are only five left - but I guess an introductory episode, even with such a short running time, has to happen.

Some random musings here and there:
- Sansa's becoming a little bit of a bitch. She has all the reasons of course but damn, now I'd be afraid to look her in the eye if I'd cross her way.
- Dany putting her to her place... "What do dragons eat anyway?" "Whatever they want". Ouch.
- Poor Sam. Great emotional moments for the character, you wish you could give him a hug.
- Glad that Jon's first reaction to the reveal wasn't "wait, so you're telling me I just fucked my aunt?"
- JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THE UNDED UMBER KID OH MY GOD I WON'T SLEEP TONIGHT. Creepy, creepy, unsettling moment!
- In every other fantasy movie or series, the two heroes would ride away on horses to have their romantic getaway. In Game of Thrones, they use dragons  :lol
- "The dead have breached the Wall". "Good". Goddammit Cersei, to quote what once Yara said about Theon, "Are you the dumbest cunt alive?"
- Bronn is totally gonna flip on Cersei and side with Jaimie and Tyrion, right? ......right?
- Totally underwhelmed by the reveal that Viserion is now an undead dragon. I hoped it would have been a huge moment, something like a shriek in the cold night and Dany going FFFFUUUUUU, but basically Bran spoiled it like any random WesterBook user, "oh, the Dead have come through and they've got your dragon. Welcome to Winterfell". I guess it was only inevitable, the survivors at Eastwatch-by-the-Sea would have sent a raven-telegram "DRAGON TORE DOWN WALL, ARMY OF THE DEAD MARCHING". So it was inevitable that it couldn't have been a secret.
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« Reply #6240 on: April 15, 2019, 03:29:19 PM »
Not a Spoiler (*Edit* This actually is kind of a spoiler)

Make sure you have your volume on.

https://v.redd.it/t9gl79w5ics21

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« Reply #6242 on: April 15, 2019, 03:37:49 PM »
Not a Spoiler

Make sure you have your volume on.

https://v.redd.it/t9gl79w5ics21

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« Reply #6243 on: April 15, 2019, 03:56:41 PM »
I enjoyed that episode more than all of season 7. Kind of had the feel of the early seasons.


And did Cersai make more zombie knights?




And Braun with the chicks and Qybern was like "that girl will die of the pox in a year" and Braun is like "which girl"  :rollin
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« Reply #6244 on: April 15, 2019, 08:37:25 PM »
That was a classic Braun line for sure  :lol


It was also great to see Arya and the Hound together again, I always felt they had the best chemistry of any two characters, and their earlier interplay was some of my favorite parts of the show. I truly hope they have more time together, they are two of a kind in my eyes.
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« Reply #6245 on: April 15, 2019, 09:02:11 PM »

- Poor Sam. Great emotional moments for the character, you wish you could give him a hug.


That was the best scene of the episode.  It was crushing to see his reaction, and the performance by all three actors in that scene was phenomenal.

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« Reply #6246 on: April 16, 2019, 01:10:09 AM »
Great first episode! The dragon flying scene was stretching it a bit, but Iím thinking that they were showing us Jon and Dany all loved up, as itís gonna be all downhill from here. Thatís probably why we got the big reveal so soon.

Great to see the Hound and Arya have a scene together. I hope there will be more to come.

Do we think Bronn is going to carry out his assignment, or does he have a shred of loyalty in his whole body? Canít see either him or Tyrion lasting the full season.. :)

Oh, and the look on Jaimeís face when he recognised the boy he pushed out of the window!

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« Reply #6247 on: April 16, 2019, 01:16:30 AM »
Bran's probably gonna be chill about it. He's so caught up in his Three-Eyed-Ravenness that he would probably reply with a vacant stare "well... all things happen for a reason... I can see so many things now... btw dude did you really have to bang your sister next to the corpse of your son?"

It's Dany's reaction to meeting Jaimie, and how Jaimie will respond, that I look forward to.
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« Reply #6248 on: April 16, 2019, 06:36:40 AM »
Do we think Bronn is going to carry out his assignment, or does he have a shred of loyalty in his whole body?

I donít think thereís anyway Bronn kills either of them. Just donít see it happening. Thatíd be the shocker of all shockers if he actually killed either of them.

Another thing that was mentioned on the Ďbehind the episodeí was that Targarynís are the only ones who can Ďflyí dragons. So, that scene with Jon flying Rhaegal was also meant to help solidify (in his and Danyís eyes) that Jon is a Targaryn when itís finally revealed to Dany....and I guess everyone else.
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« Reply #6249 on: April 16, 2019, 06:42:11 AM »
Do we think Bronn is going to carry out his assignment, or does he have a shred of loyalty in his whole body?

I donít think thereís anyway Bronn kills either of them. Just donít see it happening. Thatíd be the shocker of all shockers if he actually killed either of them.

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« Reply #6250 on: April 16, 2019, 06:43:36 AM »
Let's also keep in mind that it has been publicy made known that Lena Headey and Jerome Flinn can't stand each other, to the point that they don't want any scenes together, so unless they somehow reconciled or at the very least stopped to hate each other, you're not gonna see Bronn delivering Tyrion's head to Cersei.
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« Reply #6251 on: April 16, 2019, 06:49:05 AM »
Let's also keep in mind that it has been publicy made known that Lena Headey and Jerome Flinn can't stand each other, to the point that they don't want any scenes together, so unless they somehow reconciled or at the very least stopped to hate each other, you're not gonna see Bronn delivering Tyrion's head to Cersei.

Pretty sure HBO's stance on that would be something along the lines of "We don't care about your shit. Here's the script. Follow it or you will be sued for breach of contract". Then again, now that I'm trying to think of one, I can't think of a single scene that they were together in.

What's their deal anyway? This is the first I'm hearing of it.

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« Reply #6252 on: April 16, 2019, 06:58:21 AM »
All that has been told is that they were in a relationship and they had a bad breakup.

They have ONE scene together - but they're not interacting. Bronn is part of the delegation that comes to fetch the queen when the High Sparrow was running things, Cersei obviously told everyone "Screw you, I have the undead Mountain with me" and they all walked away. They were present in the scene but Bronn and Cersei didn't talk.

And yes, I agree that they're both actors and that they should not dictate such terms and, you know, act. You can pretend you love someone, you can as well pretend you don't love someone. Hell, Cersei hates everyone anyway so Lena shouldn't even have to pretend.
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« Reply #6253 on: April 16, 2019, 06:59:55 AM »
Let's also keep in mind that it has been publicy made known that Lena Headey and Jerome Flinn can't stand each other, to the point that they don't want any scenes together, so unless they somehow reconciled or at the very least stopped to hate each other, you're not gonna see Bronn delivering Tyrion's head to Cersei.

Pretty sure HBO's stance on that would be something along the lines of "We don't care about your shit. Here's the script. Follow it or you will be sued for breach of contract". Then again, now that I'm trying to think of one, I can't think of a single scene that they were together in.

What's their deal anyway? This is the first I'm hearing of it.

I believe it is in their contracts to not be in the same scenes together.
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« Reply #6254 on: April 16, 2019, 07:01:53 AM »
I never noticed this, but that's kind of lame although I guess if I haven't even noticed then it's not a big deal other than kind of being a spoiler now knowing they won't be in a scene together.

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« Reply #6255 on: April 16, 2019, 07:01:58 AM »
All that has been told is that they were in a relationship and they had a bad breakup.

They have ONE scene together - but they're not interacting. Bronn is part of the delegation that comes to fetch the queen when the High Sparrow was running things, Cersei obviously told everyone "Screw you, I have the undead Mountain with me" and they all walked away. They were present in the scene but Bronn and Cersei didn't talk.

And yes, I agree that they're both actors and that they should not dictate such terms and, you know, act. You can pretend you love someone, you can as well pretend you don't love someone. Hell, Cersei hates everyone anyway so Lena shouldn't even have to pretend.

Yeah, that was on my mind too  :lol

When Qybern came in and was like "Cersai wants..." I was like "uh-oh, they are gonna be in the same room together for a scene". This should be interesting, but they were able to get around it.

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« Reply #6256 on: April 16, 2019, 07:16:54 AM »
Let's also keep in mind that it has been publicy made known that Lena Headey and Jerome Flinn can't stand each other, to the point that they don't want any scenes together, so unless they somehow reconciled or at the very least stopped to hate each other, you're not gonna see Bronn delivering Tyrion's head to Cersei.

Pretty sure HBO's stance on that would be something along the lines of "We don't care about your shit. Here's the script. Follow it or you will be sued for breach of contract". Then again, now that I'm trying to think of one, I can't think of a single scene that they were together in.

What's their deal anyway? This is the first I'm hearing of it.

I believe it is in their contracts to not be in the same scenes together.
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« Reply #6257 on: April 16, 2019, 07:19:48 AM »
I never noticed this, but that's kind of lame although I guess if I haven't even noticed then it's not a big deal other than kind of being a spoiler now knowing they won't be in a scene together.

Imagine if the women who plays Cersei had it in the contract that she'd only do a scene with him if it involved her killing him  :lol

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« Reply #6258 on: April 16, 2019, 07:21:51 AM »
I enjoyed that episode more than all of season 7. Kind of had the feel of the early seasons.


And did Cersai make more zombie knights?




And Braun with the chicks and Qybern was like "that girl will die of the pox in a year" and Braun is like "which girl"  :rollin

I haven't a clue, but this post just made me think of something... Isn't the mountain technically dead? Could the Night King turn him on Cersei?

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« Reply #6259 on: April 16, 2019, 07:31:19 AM »
That's a good point. I could definitely see that coming into play at some point. Cersai's trump card being turned into an achilles heel, when the night king takes hold of him. Could be pretty interesting.

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« Reply #6260 on: April 16, 2019, 07:39:31 AM »
I'd say it's more likely that Cersei is dispatched by one of her own. My money's on Jaime.

I'm hoping they're saving the Mountain for a Clegane vs Clegane showdown. It's bound to happen, surely?? (If it doesn't, I'm throwing something at the TV..  :lol)

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« Reply #6261 on: April 16, 2019, 07:57:09 AM »
I never noticed this, but that's kind of lame although I guess if I haven't even noticed then it's not a big deal other than kind of being a spoiler now knowing they won't be in a scene together.

Imagine if the women who plays Cersei had it in the contract that she'd only do a scene with him if it involved her killing him  :lol

That would be pretty epic now knowing their personal history

I enjoyed that episode more than all of season 7. Kind of had the feel of the early seasons.


And did Cersai make more zombie knights?




And Braun with the chicks and Qybern was like "that girl will die of the pox in a year" and Braun is like "which girl"  :rollin

I haven't a clue, but this post just made me think of something... Isn't the mountain technically dead? Could the Night King turn him on Cersei?

Hmmm, I do wonder if maybe Qybern was building his own dead army.  Maybe that's a reason why Cersei is a bit more comfortable than everyone else with the dead rising, she's been doing it herself for awhile.  But I'm not sure the Night King could control him if he didn't turn him or turned via one of his wights.  Maybe, just not sure how that works but my immediate thought is no, he wouldn't be able to control him and he doesn't have the walker blue eyes.  Maybe even though he is dead, if he were touched he could still be turned into one though.

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« Reply #6262 on: April 16, 2019, 08:04:54 AM »
But I'm not sure the Night King could control him if he didn't turn him or turned via one of his wights.  Maybe, just not sure how that works but my immediate thought is no, he wouldn't be able to control him and he doesn't have the walker blue eyes. 

The White Walkers can turn any dead being into a wight.  It's why the Night's Watch always burns the dead bodies. 

I'd guess that since the mountain is now undead, he can't be turned. 

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« Reply #6263 on: April 16, 2019, 08:11:10 AM »
Benjen was undead as well, but the Night King or White Walkers couldn't control him at all. So you're probably right.

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« Reply #6264 on: April 16, 2019, 08:11:37 AM »
I think it would be most fitting if a Stark killed Cersei, to finally truly avenge Ned.  Arya doing it wearing someone else's face would be bad ass.