Author Topic: Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread (Read 647195 times)

Genowyn · « **Reply #3220 on:** January 29, 2016, 11:55:09 AM »

I got 40/41, I think the quiz takes some of its info from the show and some from the books.

The one I missed was Tywin's last words. I was sure it was "Wherever whores go"

Evermind · « **Reply #3221 on:** January 29, 2016, 11:58:03 AM »

Quote from: Genowyn on January 29, 2016, 11:55:09 AM

I got 40/41, I think the quiz takes some of its info from the show and some from the books.

The one I missed was Tywin's last words. I was sure it was "Wherever whores go"

These words are what makes Tyrion shoot. But, well, Tywin didn't die that easily and he was surprised saying something along the lines "you shot me", Tyrion responded with something witty about "ah, you're always so perceptive, small wonder you're the Hand of the King" and Tywin replied Tyrion isn't his son and then died.

matthewmatt · « **Reply #3222 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:02:33 PM »

Quote from: Evermind on January 29, 2016, 11:58:03 AM

These words are what makes Tyrion shoot. But, well, Tywin didn't die that easily and he was surprised saying something along the lines "you shot me", Tyrion responded with something witty about "ah, you're always so perceptive, small wonder you're the Hand of the King" and Tywin replied Tyrion isn't his son and then died.

Of course you're right, but it occured to me right after I clicked on the wrong answer

Evermind · « **Reply #3223 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:27:57 AM »

First look at Season 6: Photos

I like the Arya one a lot.

Zydar · « **Reply #3224 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:31:51 AM »

Max von Sydow

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #3225 on:** February 12, 2016, 08:32:02 AM »

Quote from: Zydar on February 12, 2016, 07:31:51 AM

Max von Sydow

This

Cyclopssss · « **Reply #3226 on:** February 12, 2016, 08:38:39 AM »

%Spoiler$

I see Stannis is back....

Spoiler....

Evermind · « **Reply #3227 on:** February 12, 2016, 08:39:44 AM »

Wait, Stannis? I don't see him anywhere on the photos.

cramx3 · « **Reply #3228 on:** February 12, 2016, 08:42:22 AM »

Quote from: Cyclopssss on February 12, 2016, 08:38:39 AM

%Spoiler$

I see Stannis is back....

Spoiler....

Got to do a better job with spoiler tag if this is true, but I have not seen anything that says it. Regardless, small font please.

The pics are great, glad to see the Greyjoys back

The one pic looks like it could be the Kingsmoot

ariich · « **Reply #3229 on:** February 12, 2016, 09:25:06 AM »

Oh god, not small fonts. Can't people just post a big SPOILERS thing instead so that people know to avoid the post?

cramx3 · « **Reply #3230 on:** February 12, 2016, 09:48:25 AM »

Quote from: ariich on February 12, 2016, 09:25:06 AM

Oh god, not small fonts. Can't people just post a big SPOILERS thing instead so that people know to avoid the post?

except you scroll down and still see it, yes you can try to avoid it but its not as easy to avoid when the font is small.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3231 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:06:51 PM »

It doesn't matter. There's no photo of him anyway.

cramx3 · « **Reply #3232 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:57:17 PM »

Quote from: Prog Snob on February 12, 2016, 01:06:51 PM

It doesn't matter. There's no photo of him anyway.

Agreed, but just in the future. I would hate to be spoiled about Stannis being alive because of all the deaths last season his seemed most believable. And obviously Myrcella is now confirmed although that was also pretty believable too.

Cyclopssss · « **Reply #3233 on:** February 13, 2016, 04:35:39 AM »

Quote from: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 08:39:44 AM

Wait, Stannis? I don't see him anywhere on the photos.

I meant Davos, sorry. Glad to see him back, though.

cramx3 · « **Reply #3234 on:** February 13, 2016, 08:43:27 AM »

Quote from: Cyclopssss on February 13, 2016, 04:35:39 AM

Quote from: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
Wait, Stannis? I don't see him anywhere on the photos.

I meant Davos, sorry. Glad to see him back, though.

Yup, Davos is an awesome man.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3235 on:** February 14, 2016, 01:33:25 PM »

https://watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-season-6-teaser-leaks-early/#more-56039

cramx3 · « **Reply #3236 on:** February 15, 2016, 09:54:35 AM »

Quote from: Prog Snob on February 14, 2016, 01:33:25 PM

https://watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-season-6-teaser-leaks-early/#more-56039

Interesting, but I wonder if that was made for the teaser and not actually season footage?

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3237 on:** February 15, 2016, 10:07:52 AM »

I think it's just a teaser.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #3238 on:** February 15, 2016, 02:56:51 PM »

So, do you guys think Stannis made it?

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3239 on:** February 15, 2016, 07:24:10 PM »

I'm going to guess that he didn't. There's no way Brienne went all that way just to approach him on the battlefield and let him go. I know her main reason for traveling was to find the Stark children. However, she also swore to avenge Renly.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #3240 on:** February 15, 2016, 07:27:08 PM »

Yeah, that makes sense.

That being said, I really hope he made it. The TV show Stannis made such a departure from the book Stannis that I feel he has to redeem himself somehow.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3241 on:** February 15, 2016, 07:40:40 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 15, 2016, 07:27:08 PM

Yeah, that makes sense.

That being said, I really hope he made it. The TV show Stannis made such a departure from the book Stannis that I feel he has to redeem himself somehow.

I really liked his character and was hoping he would make it, too. However, now I think Melisandre knows that Stannis was not the man to support.

Evermind · « **Reply #3242 on:** February 16, 2016, 02:28:03 AM »

I think Stannis is dead dead. I seem to remember even GRRM confirmed it in regards to the show, but I'm not going to bother to look it up, so there is a small chance I may be mistaken.

cramx3 · « **Reply #3243 on:** February 16, 2016, 08:08:03 AM »

Quote from: Evermind on February 16, 2016, 02:28:03 AM

I think Stannis is dead dead. I seem to remember even GRRM confirmed it in regards to the show, but I'm not going to bother to look it up, so there is a small chance I may be mistaken.

I believe he did as well. I think he is dead. I'm OK with it. His story had come to an end and Brienne was the appropriate person to do the deed. I wish they showed it though.

cramx3 · « **Reply #3244 on:** February 19, 2016, 01:42:19 PM »

https://runt-of-the-web.com/winds-of-winter-rat?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fbpdgeorgerr

Well the new book will be large/heavy enough to kill a rat

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #3245 on:** February 19, 2016, 02:07:34 PM »

MirrorMask · « **Reply #3246 on:** February 20, 2016, 05:00:11 AM »

Before the new season comes, a little look back at the first book / season...

One thing that puzzled me a bit was how the whole parentage of Cersei's children resolved into a big nothing. The first book / season can, in some ways, be seen as a "mystery novel" - the good protagonist, Ned Stark, investigates the murder of the former Hand of the King and discovers the terrible and horrible secret that shakes the foundation of the realm... Cersei's children, the supposedly offspring of King Robert Baratheon, are all born of incest with her brother!!! and Ned realizes it by, essentially, really looking at them: they're all blonde as their true parents and no Baratheon ever sired a non-black haired son.

Ned loses his head, the truth gets out because he informed Stannis and... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENS.

The secret was not, well, so secret: it was there in plain sight for all to see, if only one would look. The children are all blonde, once you get told they're Jaimie's it should be crystal clear that it's the actual true, and nobody in the realm gives a damn.

Sure, there are explanations: Stannis broke the news, and he could have passed as self-serving. And even if he was right, he's hated by everyone so no one would want him as king. Then there's Tywin Lannister with all of his power, gold and tendency to go Rain of Castamere on you if you blink an eye the wrong way. But such a big scandal could have really been put away just by the dislike for Stannis and the fear of Tywin?

Just imagine in our real world what even the allegation that William and Henry of England were born of incest between Diana and her brother, with a physical resemblance to back it up, would do. Seems to me that the Lannisters got it very easy, or maybe I'm just underestimating Tywin's power and influence... it's just that there were no real consequences for Cersei and Jaimie - all those who were in arms against them were already so for other reasons, no one in the seven kingdoms said "screw it, Joffrey's a bastard" because of the revelation.

Evermind · « **Reply #3247 on:** February 20, 2016, 05:04:02 AM »

Quote

Ned loses his head, the truth gets out because he informed Stannis and... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENS.

And remember that in the book Ned wasn't even able to inform Stannis.

Stannis and Jon Arryn reached the conclusion themselves.

cramx3 · « **Reply #3248 on:** February 20, 2016, 07:20:55 AM »

But there was an active rebellion due to this... that's the entire 2nd season, a Clash of Kings, the war of the 5 Kings.

Stannis lost the Battle of Blackwater, that effectively kept the Lannisters in Kings Landing and rulers of the Realm.

MirrorMask · « **Reply #3249 on:** February 20, 2016, 07:39:36 AM »

Yeah, Stannis acted on that, but Rob Stark was already at war with the Lannisters, and Renly just wanted to be king so he jojned in. It all seemed more a "King Robert is dead, let's take a chance to grab power" kind of thing more than a "What? Joffrey is a bastard born of incest? screw you Lannisters, you can forget my alliance" thing.

cramx3 · « **Reply #3250 on:** February 20, 2016, 07:52:18 AM »

Quote from: MirrorMask on February 20, 2016, 07:39:36 AM

Yeah, Stannis acted on that, but Rob Stark was already at war with the Lannisters, and Renly just wanted to be king so he jojned in. It all seemed more a "King Robert is dead, let's take a chance to grab power" kind of thing more than a "What? Joffrey is a bastard born of incest? screw you Lannisters, you can forget my alliance" thing.

Rob was not at war until Ned's head was chopped off which was because of the accusation of incest. Renly wanted to just be king because he had the biggest army, yes, but would not have ever tried to be King if it was not for the war started because of the incest.

MirrorMask · « **Reply #3251 on:** February 20, 2016, 08:42:37 AM »

Rob was coming down 'cause Ned was imprisoned... but then again, he was imprisoned because of his "treason".

Well, guess I got my answer then, I never fully realized how much the incest was actually important, since all the parties at war were not best buddies with the Lannisters to begin with and there was no clear and sudden 180° turn from their friends and allies.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3252 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:01:01 AM »

I think it was a power grab for most of those involved, but for Robb Stark it was to avenge his father. The Starks never had a desire to sit on the Iron Throne. Incest caused Stannis' part in the war because it questioned the legitimacy of Joffrey's claim. Renly was just a fool to even get involved in the war and didn't have a claim regardless of the incest.

Evermind · « **Reply #3253 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:39:45 AM »

Yeah, Renly acted dumb with all that "people love me, I will make a better king than Stannis, yay" line of thinking. I've got to say though, if Ned actually supported him and followed his advice instead of trusting LF... well we would've been reading the different story now.

And I say Renly acted dumb, but we've got perspective. He had no way of knowing about Melisandre's abilities, he had numbers, he believed he would've made a good king, well, from his perspective he had every right to claim the throne. I mean, his brother got it through the right of conquest, why would he be any different?

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3254 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:53:49 AM »

Renly and Robert are two different animals, and that's where he's foolish.

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