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Re: Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread
« Reply #490 on: April 03, 2012, 09:55:41 AM »
Well no, that would diffuse suspicion wouldn't it? Because it wouldn't necessarily mean she's schtuping Jaime, only that the kids are blond when Cersei is the mother.
The point was that none of the Baratheons had ever had blond hair, the dark hair was apparently a dominant gene in their bloodline.  That was apparently one of the first indicators that the sons of Cersei were not actual Baratheons.
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« Reply #491 on: April 03, 2012, 09:59:31 AM »
Well no, that would diffuse suspicion wouldn't it? Because it wouldn't necessarily mean she's schtuping Jaime, only that the kids are blond when Cersei is the mother.


Robert had like 80-bazillion bastards by women of all types, and all of them ended up having black hair.  Apparently, it's a dominant gene or something.  That he would have not 1, but 3 children with Cersei and none of them have black hair defies explanation.

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« Reply #492 on: April 03, 2012, 10:35:13 AM »
Alright, got it. I haven't read the books and I guess I just never caught that implication.
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« Reply #493 on: April 03, 2012, 10:55:54 AM »
So..many...characters..

It doesn't really bother me as much as it confuses me. There's always a few moments in an episode when I just think to myself: ''Who is that and when did they introduce him/her?''.

A solid start for season two, definitely.

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« Reply #494 on: April 03, 2012, 10:58:00 AM »
I'm pretty disappointed in critics who knock the series for not having a "main" character to focus on. Where were all these critics when LOST came out with its unfocused ensemble?
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« Reply #495 on: April 03, 2012, 01:40:36 PM »
So..many...characters..

The on-screen guide option for GoT season 1 on blu ray was a handy reference if you were watching the episode and you wanted to know more about characters, who they're related to, and even where in Westeros it happened.

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« Reply #496 on: April 03, 2012, 01:50:07 PM »
Alright, got it. I haven't read the books and I guess I just never caught that implication.
You forgot about the episode in the first season where Ned is reading the Baratheon family tree?

"...first of his name, black of hair .... first of his, black of hair.... second of his name, black of hair... Robert Baratheon, first of his name, black of hair, Joffrey Baratheon, first of his name, blonde of hair"


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« Reply #497 on: April 03, 2012, 01:58:59 PM »
I remember that, I just wasn't paying attention to whether the bastards had black hair.
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« Reply #498 on: April 03, 2012, 03:03:41 PM »
Ah, I see.
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Re: Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread
« Reply #499 on: April 06, 2012, 04:47:18 PM »
WTF you can already watch ep 2 and you guys don't tell me ??? ???

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« Reply #500 on: April 06, 2012, 05:14:01 PM »
WTF you can already watch ep 2 and you guys don't tell me ??? ???
WHAT?!! WHERE?!
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« Reply #501 on: April 06, 2012, 05:26:13 PM »
It leaked around the same time the first episode came out.

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« Reply #502 on: April 07, 2012, 02:20:08 AM »
And it is fucking AWESOME

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Re: Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread
« Reply #503 on: April 07, 2012, 05:25:30 AM »
So..many...characters..

It doesn't really bother me as much as it confuses me. There's always a few moments in an episode when I just think to myself: ''Who is that and when did they introduce him/her?''.

A solid start for season two, definitely.

That is my biggest concern with the series as well. There's a shitload of characters (there's even about 20 'main' characters) in the books and sometimes they just seem to rush it when they're introducing new characters. I really hope they will expand on just the 10 episodes a book, because for a book like Storm of Swords (the third) I can't possibly see how that would be enough.
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« Reply #504 on: April 07, 2012, 05:34:13 AM »
I'd think that A Feast for Crows is even more of a worry for them.  It introduces even more random characters that have never been seen before and completely abandons some of the most important ones to the show.  There is also very little action, which audience members won't be thrilled about.  Perhaps they could extend part of the third book into season 4 and cover the important things from A Feast for Crows during that season as well.  As much as I like how loyal the show is to the text, I can't see them maintaining that loyalty realistically when they are on AFFC.

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« Reply #505 on: April 07, 2012, 10:06:09 AM »
I'd think that A Feast for Crows is even more of a worry for them.  It introduces even more random characters that have never been seen before and completely abandons some of the most important ones to the show.  There is also very little action, which audience members won't be thrilled about.  Perhaps they could extend part of the third book into season 4 and cover the important things from A Feast for Crows during that season as well.  As much as I like how loyal the show is to the text, I can't see them maintaining that loyalty realistically when they are on AFFC.

It's still a rumor, but there's a possibility that aSoS will take up two seasons. Afterward, the speculation is that aFFC and aDwD will be combined in subsequent seasons, which is probably the best choice but I'm not sure how they're going to handle the lack of action in those books either. There is a lot I'm sure the show could leave out though. For instance, Breanne's search for Sansa could be covered in 2 episodes, there's no need to chronicle Samwell's entire time out to sea like the book, and the situation in Mereen was too drawn out to begin with.

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« Reply #506 on: April 07, 2012, 10:07:17 AM »
All of this discussion should be kept in the books thread.
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« Reply #507 on: April 07, 2012, 10:09:26 AM »
... which I believe people should read anyway, if they're interested in the series.

Right, I'm sorry. I started it off, didn't want to cause any trouble.
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« Reply #508 on: April 08, 2012, 08:10:59 AM »
All of this discussion should be kept in the books thread.

They're discussing how the books might be interpreted for the show.
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« Reply #509 on: April 08, 2012, 09:09:04 AM »
All of this discussion should be kept in the books thread.

They're discussing how the books might be interpreted for the show.

And in the process, talking about future events that the show is years away from.

Any discussion about any information not yet provided by the show/HBO should be kept in the books thread, so that no one gets spoiled.
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« Reply #510 on: April 08, 2012, 09:21:04 AM »
Could you just make this easier for me and read the books.

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« Reply #511 on: April 08, 2012, 09:45:00 AM »
I have read the books.  The aim is to protect people who haven't.
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« Reply #512 on: April 08, 2012, 09:58:33 AM »
I don't plan on reading the books until after the show is done (which I know will be a long time from now), so yeah, let's keep this thread clear of discussion of events from future books.
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« Reply #513 on: April 09, 2012, 02:11:39 AM »
Those Lannisters better learn to work together quickly.  The walls seem to be closing in on them as everyone and their armies seem to be racing toward the iron throne.

I also can't believe Theon's sister let it go that far.  Gross.  It's a twisted way of having a laugh.

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« Reply #514 on: April 09, 2012, 04:36:19 AM »
She didn't tell him who she was because she was trying to figure out what kind of person he had become.
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« Reply #515 on: April 09, 2012, 04:47:22 AM »
I also can't believe Theon's sister let it go that far.  Gross.  It's a twisted way of having a laugh.

That was one of my favourite parts in the books. George R.R. Martin really has some twisted, dark humour sometimes.
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« Reply #516 on: April 09, 2012, 08:01:41 PM »
I still find it hard to believe that Joffrey was the one who ordered the killings of Robert's bastards, just the way he's been portrayed makes it hard to believe. Though if they wanted to keep going this theme of "Cersei is losing control of everything" well I can go with that.
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« Reply #517 on: April 10, 2012, 01:32:39 PM »
NOW WE'RE TALKING. Second episode came back full throttle.

Good news, everybody!

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« Reply #518 on: April 10, 2012, 07:17:01 PM »
Why was that little bit with Cersei and Littlefinger added in?  Kind of goes against Littlefinger's character a good deal, and it doesn't really make sense for them to be setting up that kind of animosity between the two of them at all.    (light spoiler maybe)

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« Reply #520 on: April 11, 2012, 10:15:47 AM »
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« Reply #521 on: April 11, 2012, 12:13:58 PM »
Finally watched both episodes last night. Fucking. Awesome. Though they definitely didn't introduce Stannis and co. properly. Beyond Stannis himself I have almost no idea who any of the people are, hot redhead included.
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« Reply #522 on: April 15, 2012, 08:19:22 PM »
Excellent episode.  The gay Renly part didn't seem very necessary, though.  I didn't really mind it, but what are they trying to do with that?  All I can think of is that it did sort of help to paint Margaery as a practical and cunning girl who knows how to play the game. 
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« Reply #523 on: April 15, 2012, 09:27:41 PM »
Smart, Arya. Very smart.
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« Reply #524 on: April 15, 2012, 11:08:58 PM »
Well, I didn't like what they omitted from Tyrion's and Littlefinger's conversation and how the show has completely ignored that subplot.

Solid episode, though, and hey, no sexposition!
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