Author Topic: Petrucci: Woo hoo! Finished tracking all rhythm clean and acoustic guitars today (Read 10389 times)

Aniland · « **on:** April 06, 2011, 01:21:04 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/#!/johnpetrucciFB/posts/177882408930446

Aniland · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:22:30 PM »

I don't know why it surprises me, but ACOUSTIC GUITARS. CAN'T WAIT.

The Silent Cody · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:24:50 PM »

juice · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:28:43 PM »

Quote from: The Silent Cody on April 06, 2011, 01:24:50 PM

Mebert78 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:29:41 PM »

Does that mean drums are next? Or are drums tracked before guitars?

jsem · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:30:49 PM »

Quote from: juice on April 06, 2011, 01:28:43 PM

Quote from: The Silent Cody on April 06, 2011, 01:24:50 PM

Aniland · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:32:02 PM »

I'd be sincerely surprised if they added the drums to guitar tracks. Just seems silly. Probably didn't say anything about the drums because people would GO "OMG PEH-TRUCK-SEE WHO IS TEH DRUMMER!!1!1!!?"

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:50:30 PM »

Chino · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:51:25 PM »

Will JLB be recording last? He is in the studio the 18th I think. So that would mean there are less than two weeks left to record instruments. I'm guessing JR didn't finish yet or he would have posted. He likely recorded along side JP. This leaves JM time to lay down the bass. Is the remaining time period enough for drum tracks? I'm thinking they were dropped first.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:51:41 PM »

ANNOUNCE. THE. FUCKING. DRUMMER.

Mebert78 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:58:33 PM »

Does anyone here with recording experience know if drums are typically recorded first or last among instruments?

rumborak · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:59:55 PM »

In 99% of all cases the drums are laid down first. The remaining order then depends on the song.

rumborak

Chino · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:00:15 PM »

I always thought first.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:00:35 PM »

I've always been under the impression that DT recorded a jam track of the song (with protools most likely), and tracked the drums with Mike listening to it.

By that logic, the drums would have to be first.

TAC · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:01:30 PM »

What exactly was the post? I don't have a Facebook password for the link.

JPX · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:03:46 PM »

Quote from: TAC on April 06, 2011, 02:01:30 PM

What exactly was the post? I don't have a Facebook password for the link.

The thread title is exactly what he wrote.

bosk1 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:06:37 PM »

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on April 06, 2011, 02:00:35 PM

I've always been under the impression that DT recorded a jam track of the song (with protools most likely), and tracked the drums with Mike listening to it.

By that logic, the drums would have to be first.

Basically. What they described for the last few albums is that, as is typical with a lot of bands, they record a jam track first. Then they create a drum scratch track on the computer so they can mess around with the tempos of different parts and adjust if they think something needs to be faster or slower. Once they get the tempo right on the scratch track, Mike would use that to record his drum parts. After drums, bass. After bass, keys and guitar (I'm not sure if they have a set order), and then vocals. Then adding backing tracks and extras and extras, touching up, etc. Other than messing with the tempos of the scratch track on computer, most bands tend to follow a similar sort of pattern.

KevShmev · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:07:06 PM »

Quote from: Aniland on April 06, 2011, 01:22:30 PM

I don't know why it surprises me, but ACOUSTIC GUITARS.

It shouldn't. Every DT record has acoustic guitar on it somewhere.

rumborak · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:11:12 PM »

The only way of recording tracks without laying down the drums first is to record to a click track. Unless there is a really good reason to do so, it's a pain in the butt and makes things overly mechanic.

rumborak

Obfuscation · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:14:15 PM »

Basically every band always tracks their drums first and then bass with the guitars coming after that and then the vocals are last. That's what I have usually seen.

Dream Team · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:24:03 PM »

Quote from: bösk1 on April 06, 2011, 02:06:37 PM

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on April 06, 2011, 02:00:35 PM
I've always been under the impression that DT recorded a jam track of the song (with protools most likely), and tracked the drums with Mike listening to it.

By that logic, the drums would have to be first.

Basically. What they described for the last few albums is that, as is typical with a lot of bands, they record a jam track first. Then they create a drum scratch track on the computer so they can mess around with the tempos of different parts and adjust if they think something needs to be faster or slower. Once they get the tempo right on the scratch track, Mike would use that to record his drum parts. After drums, bass. After bass, keys and guitar (I'm not sure if they have a set order), and then vocals. Then adding backing tracks and extras and extras, touching up, etc. Other than messing with the tempos of the scratch track on computer, most bands tend to follow a similar sort of pattern.

What he said, plus JP has to record his solos (of which I hope there are oodles).

Mebert78 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:52:19 PM »

Stupid question, but is tracking the same as recording? I'm not familiar with studio terms. I always say recording. I guess they are the same thing?

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2011, 03:25:20 PM »

Quote from: Aniland on April 06, 2011, 01:22:30 PM

I don't know why it surprises me, but ACOUSTIC GUITARS. CAN'T WAIT.

Let's be honest. This probably just means acoustic guitars played in the background, or maybe a grand total of about two minutes where it is at the forefront. We probably aren't ever going to see another "Silent Man".

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2011, 03:31:39 PM »

Well, the acoustic guitar at the end of TCOT was so nicely done into an epic finale, it's still nice to hear there are acoustic guitars. That got me wet.

Knguro · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2011, 04:56:10 PM »

Quote from: Mebert78 on April 06, 2011, 02:52:19 PM

Stupid question, but is tracking the same as recording? I'm not familiar with studio terms. I always say recording. I guess they are the same thing?

well if im not mistaking tracking is basically the recording of a single instrument, ir order to create the mix after that, with all tracks combine, thats all i know, still if im wrong, just somebody slap me in the face and correct me. haha

Aramatheis · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:45:53 PM »

Quote from: Chino on April 06, 2011, 02:00:15 PM

I always thought first.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:25:41 PM »

It's usually: Drums first, rythm guitars, bass, keyboards, then overdubs (usually solos), then vox. At least that's how it's done when I'm in the studio lol

sneakyblueberry · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:30:56 PM »

Quote from: Mebert78 on April 06, 2011, 02:52:19 PM

Stupid question, but is tracking the same as recording? I'm not familiar with studio terms. I always say recording. I guess they are the same thing?

Tracking is another name for recording, yep.

dongringo · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06, 2011, 07:22:40 PM »

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on April 06, 2011, 02:00:35 PM

I've always been under the impression that DT recorded a jam track of the song (with protools most likely), and tracked the drums with Mike (Mangini) listening to it.

By that logic, the drums would have to be first.

Edited: (Mangini) ^

I have a feeling that the drums were being tracked when JP mentioned that the new drummer wouldn't disappoint in any way.

SPNKr · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06, 2011, 08:11:01 PM »

Quote from: rumborak on April 06, 2011, 01:59:55 PM

In 99% of all cases the drums are laid down first. The remaining order then depends on the song.

rumborak

If you're not Lars Ulrich, that's true.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06, 2011, 08:35:14 PM »

Drums always come first. I don't see why there would be a reason to not track drums first.

Aniland · « **Reply #31 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:56:24 PM »

It's funny that people are somehow thinking under the logic of, "The public doesn't know who the new drummer is. Therefore, they haven't recorded drums yet."

Ħ · « **Reply #32 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:29:11 PM »

Quote from: Aniland on April 06, 2011, 10:56:24 PM

It's funny that people are somehow thinking under the logic of, "The public doesn't know who the new drummer is. Therefore, they haven't recorded drums yet."

Almost everyone here has said that the drums go down first.

The Silent Cody · « **Reply #33 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:36:05 PM »

I got the feeling that we will know a new drummer in a couple days...

if not, we'll meet him after the band ends recording in studio...what means "we'll announce in the best moment for the band"...?

KevShmev · « **Reply #34 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:45:21 PM »

Quote from: The Silent Cody on April 06, 2011, 11:36:05 PM

I got the feeling that we will know a new drummer in a couple days...

Isn't that what everyone was saying back in December?

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Author Topic: Petrucci: Woo hoo! Finished tracking all rhythm clean and acoustic guitars today (Read 10389 times)