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Offline Jaq

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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2012, 03:27:37 PM »
No. It's one of my principles. I don't support any artist who claims to be a Nazi, or National Socialist, or whatever. And if I find out I have been without knowing (like the OP mentioning Magma) my support is withdrawn. I can support people who I disagree with politically-it's an occupational hazard with my reading of technothrillers and military science fiction unless they go so far beyond the pale that I can't stomach it (hello, Orson Scott Card and Ted Nugent) but I draw the line at supporting someone who believes in a political movement that caused a world war and one of the most horrific acts of ethnic cleansing in history.

And yes, I can make a distinction about Communism. However if someone plays in a band and idolizes Joseph Stalin, right out the door goes their music.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2012, 03:47:45 PM »
I'd find an openly pro-Nazi band hard to stomach. I find it hard to believe that someone endorsing such a blatantly incorrect political viewpoint would have the sensibility to make art, but even if the music were awesome, I wouldn't want to give them any money.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2012, 03:49:50 PM »
Well I listen to Burzum and Varg is a racist piece of shit, I just let the music be separate from the artist.  We all gotta make a living somehow.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2012, 03:50:27 PM »
Quote from: Jaq on February 16, 2012, 03:27:37 PM
And yes, I can make a distinction about Communism. However if someone plays in a band and idolizes Joseph Stalin, right out the door goes their music.
Yeah, Communism is fine for sure. The band Henry Cow and Robert Wyatt both are and I love them.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #74 on: February 16, 2012, 04:39:52 PM »
I have no qualms with the idea of listening to music that had been produced by someone or some group with questionable values and beliefs, provided I find the music enjoyable.  I believe the music should able to stand on its own. 
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #75 on: February 16, 2012, 05:00:04 PM »
I just feel "icky" listening to a band like that, so no. I mean obviously, me being Jewish and all.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #76 on: February 16, 2012, 11:30:39 PM »
Not this thread again...
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #77 on: February 16, 2012, 11:50:25 PM »
If the music is great and it doesn't contain that type of lyrics, I'll listen. What a person believes in has nothing to do with the music IMO. A great tune is a great tune. So is a good painting. Hitlers paintings still look nice, even if he's responsible for the worst war of all time.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #78 on: February 17, 2012, 02:24:53 AM »
I honestly don't give a fuck. At all.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #79 on: February 17, 2012, 07:32:25 AM »
I try to keep the artist separate from their art, but sometimes a line is crossed where my perception of the artist taints their art.  Tom Cruise and Axl Rose have both crossed the line with their antics, such that I will no longer support them.  An artist actually espousing bigotry is going way past the line.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #80 on: February 17, 2012, 08:47:25 AM »
I don't like drunks and drug-addicts...
but if I boycotted all their music, I'd have nothing to listen to. :sadpanda:
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #81 on: February 17, 2012, 09:26:26 AM »
Quote from: E.S. on February 16, 2012, 11:50:25 PM
If the music is great and it doesn't contain that type of lyrics, I'll listen. What a person believes in has nothing to do with the music IMO. A great tune is a great tune. So is a good painting. Hitlers paintings still look nice, even if he's responsible for the worst war of all time.
Actually, no. Hitler's paintings are infamous for being objectively bad, or at least bad enough to prevent him from being admitted to an art school.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #82 on: February 17, 2012, 10:55:51 AM »
Generally speaking I am not too concerned about the views/rantings/shortcomings/quirks of any artists whose music I buy/listen to, as long as they are not hurting anyone, I can generally overlook it.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #83 on: February 17, 2012, 11:11:00 AM »
I can overlook a band being atheists but when they are actively atheists and use every single possible opportunity to make sure everyone knows they are anti-christian it gets a bit boring.

You say you hate religion but you are so pro-actively anti-religion that it's virtually a dogmatic religion in itself.

To me it just seems like a complete waste of energy being so adamantly against something you don't even believe in.
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2012, 11:35:15 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on February 17, 2012, 11:11:00 AM
I can overlook a band being atheists but when they are actively atheists and use every single possible opportunity to make sure everyone knows they are anti-christian it gets a bit boring.

You say you hate religion but you are so pro-actively anti-religion that it's virtually a dogmatic religion in itself.

To me it just seems like a complete waste of energy being so adamantly against something you don't even believe in.

Are you talking about bands like those from the black metal scene or Bad Religion?
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Re: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies...
« Reply #85 on: February 17, 2012, 11:45:58 AM »
I guess more like Black Metal. Bad Religion are ok since Greg said he only has a problem with people forcing their views on other people and has no problem at all with Christians who keep to themselves...He went on to add that he thinks the name Bad Religion and their No Cross logo is kinda embarrassing but they've had it since they were young and they're stuck with it :P
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