Author Topic: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies... (Read 17524 times)

EPICVIEW · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:13:28 AM »

NEVER!

Id spit on their music.

Id despise them

No music is that good that Id compromise my morals...F THEM!

I will not tolerate any sort of bigotry or hatred by a so called ahole musician or anyone

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:29:07 AM »

One of the biggest reasons I can't get into black metal.

Aside from corpse paint and goth pants.

jsem · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:46:43 AM »

My problem with norwegian black metal is I don't like the sound of it. However, Bathory is just massive amounts of

bodiesinflight · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:29:35 AM »

Quote from: jsem on March 31, 2011, 09:17:58 AM

Ok, is there any1 here that would choose not to listen to a band just cuz they support Che Guevara?

Are you saying that just because Che Guevara was a Marxist?
Because there's nothing actually wrong with being a Marxist, it doesn't make you a bad person.
Being a Nazi kinda does.

lateralus88 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:39:31 AM »

Varg likes cheesy wotsits. That must mean cheesy wotsits are for Anti-semites and national socialists.

jsem · « **Reply #40 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:50:58 AM »

I'm gonna pull the obvious Communism has killed more than Nazism.
Done.

bodiesinflight · « **Reply #41 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:01:18 PM »

Quote from: jsem on March 31, 2011, 11:50:58 AM

I'm gonna pull the obvious Communism has killed more than Nazism.
Done.

I'm gonna pull the obvious communism is not a political ideology that believes in killing innocent people and that Nazism is.
Standing for Nazism makes you a fascist who believes that a large number of people do not have the right to live a free and decent life (at the very least). Standing for communism makes you someone who believes that all people should be equal at the base level.

You can be a communist and a pacifist, you couldn't be a Nazi and a pacifist.

Furtheremore there has never, and never will be, a true communist regime in any country anywhere in the world. Sadly communism doesn't actually work in practice.

Also I think you'll find that democracy has killed more people than either communism or nazism.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #42 on:** March 31, 2011, 03:21:24 PM »

Quote from: lateralus88 on March 31, 2011, 11:39:31 AM

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Varg likes cheesy wotsits. That must mean cheesy wotsits are for Anti-semites and national socialists.

They are. $:\$

The Degenerate · « **Reply #43 on:** March 31, 2011, 03:23:00 PM »

Quote from: jsem on March 31, 2011, 11:50:58 AM

I'm gonna pull the obvious Communism has killed more than Nazism.

HarlequinForest · « **Reply #44 on:** March 31, 2011, 06:25:46 PM »

It doesn't bother me. I'll listen to (and have listened to) bands whose lyrics promote slavery and racial genocide if they make good music. That's just what you sometimes get when you listen to certain kinds of metal.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:18:53 PM »

So we ask if you would listen to a band that hates jews?

What about a band that hates christians?

dethklok09 · « **Reply #46 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:20:52 PM »

Well I listen to slayer.

contest_sanity · « **Reply #47 on:** March 31, 2011, 09:18:11 PM »

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 30, 2011, 05:17:28 PM

I do nazi how it would make any difference to me.

The Degenerate · « **Reply #48 on:** March 31, 2011, 09:27:49 PM »

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 30, 2011, 05:17:28 PM

I do nazi how it would make any difference to me.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #49 on:** April 01, 2011, 09:18:57 AM »

When I saw the thread title I was like, "Hell no! I have principles!"

Then ? says Amorphis's old vocalist was a neo-nazi, and I'm like, "Fuck it. I ain't stoppin'".

Way to be a good human TOX.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #50 on:** April 01, 2011, 10:38:29 AM »

Quote from: YtseBitsySpider on March 31, 2011, 09:14:16 AM

I think I would care.
And I'd stop listening to them.

This.

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #51 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:26:30 AM »

Quote from: The Degenerate on March 31, 2011, 09:27:49 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vomxyIDaLtQ

jonny108 · « **Reply #52 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:32:51 AM »

No way in hell would I listen to the band anymore, it would sicken me to my stomach. I wouldn't want to hear a single word that came out of their mouth nevermind the music they've put their heart and soul into. That's something I wouldn't want to hear.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #53 on:** April 01, 2011, 03:09:17 PM »

For a while I thought no one would say no, but now some are. I gotta say I can understand you guys, it makes me pretty uncomfortable to think about the possibility.

tjanuranus · « **Reply #54 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:13:15 AM »

Seriously? How could you support ANYONE who stands for the killing of an entire race of human beings?

You would willing support a person who believes in this?

I almost dropped my computer when i saw the results of this poll. WTFF

Volk9 · « **Reply #55 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:52:39 AM »

Not necessarily for me TJ, but you may wanna post NSFW before those pics just in case

tjanuranus · « **Reply #56 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:57:09 AM »

i know but i felt it was appropriate for the topic because i personally feel people are not taking the nazi thing seriously for some reason.

MetalManiac666 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:01:29 AM »

I don't think we need any graphics to explain to us what the Nazis did.

As for the actual question, I don't particularly give a shit AKA I'm in the good music is good music camp

Volk9 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:15:58 AM »

Quote from: tjanuranus on April 07, 2011, 12:57:09 AM

i know but i felt it was appropriate for the topic because i personally feel people are not taking the nazi thing seriously for some reason.

I understand, its just someone browsing at work might not wanna see dead bodies and get some weird looks

Personally, I think that if it was one of my favorite artists/bands, it would make me look at them differently and might push me away from them, but if the music is really good and has nothing to do with their Nazi beliefs, I'd probably end up listening to the music again because...well, its my favorite artists/bands.

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #59 on:** April 07, 2011, 06:16:53 AM »

Quote from: tjanuranus on April 07, 2011, 12:13:15 AM

I almost dropped my computer when i saw the results of this poll. WTFF

Why were you holding you're computer? Don't you get tired?

jsem · « **Reply #60 on:** April 07, 2011, 06:49:24 AM »

Quote from: tjanuranus on April 07, 2011, 12:13:15 AM

Seriously? How could you support ANYONE who stands for the killing of an entire race of human beings?

No1's saying they support their views. Do you support the political views of John Petrucci just because you listen to the music?

I mean, as long as the lyrics or the music itself isn't about their political views, I'd gladly listen if it sounded allright.

lateralus88 · « **Reply #61 on:** April 07, 2011, 08:21:06 AM »

Quote from: tjanuranus on April 07, 2011, 12:13:15 AM

Seriously? How could you support ANYONE who stands for the killing of an entire race of human beings?

You would willing support a person who believes in this?
*snippity*
*bippity*

I almost dropped my computer when i saw the results of this poll. WTFF

Sure is sensationalism in here.

Seriously though, dude I'm Jewish. The majority of my family is Jewish. And yet I still don't care whether or not the artist themselves have "Nazi sympathies". It's their opinion (disagreeable or not) and boycotting their music won't change that. If the music they create is still good I'll listen to it. I've also yet to hear a serious song about killing Jews and being the master race, and like it. These artists don't always put these national socialist belief systems directly into their music.

Mildly relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CyPVgMZm58&feature=youtu.be#t=4m53s

YtseBitsySpider · « **Reply #62 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:39:30 AM »

ya..gettin pretty close to a move the P/R thread...and those pics might get you a slap.....just sayin.

Kosmo · « **Reply #63 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:41:26 AM »

Depends.

If the lyrics are pro-nazi i wouldn't but if they have nothing to do with ideology i would still listen.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #64 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:48:01 AM »

Quote from: lateralus88 on April 07, 2011, 08:21:06 AM

Mildly relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CyPVgMZm58&feature=youtu.be#t=4m53s

HOLY SHIT WHY

lateralus88 · « **Reply #65 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:31:36 PM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on April 07, 2011, 09:48:01 AM

Quote from: lateralus88 on April 07, 2011, 08:21:06 AM
Mildly relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CyPVgMZm58&feature=youtu.be#t=4m53s

HOLY SHIT WHY

wat

tjanuranus · « **Reply #66 on:** April 07, 2011, 03:10:49 PM »

Quote from: jsem on April 07, 2011, 06:49:24 AM

Quote from: tjanuranus on April 07, 2011, 12:13:15 AM
Seriously? How could you support ANYONE who stands for the killing of an entire race of human beings?
No1's saying they support their views. Do you support the political views of John Petrucci just because you listen to the music?

I mean, as long as the lyrics or the music itself isn't about their political views, I'd gladly listen if it sounded allright.

You can't compare John petrucci being a conservative to being a Nazi. It's not the same. John petrucci has been my idol since i was about 14 years old. Now i'm 30 and he's still my favorite musician but if it came out that he believed in the Nazi philosophy then that would be the last day i would support him. That's being straight up and honest.

Also those pics are nothing more than you would see in any history class. That's History, there's nothing wrong with it.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #67 on:** April 07, 2011, 06:50:36 PM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on April 07, 2011, 09:48:01 AM

Quote from: lateralus88 on April 07, 2011, 08:21:06 AM
Mildly relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CyPVgMZm58&feature=youtu.be#t=4m53s

HOLY SHIT WHY

HarlequinForest · « **Reply #68 on:** April 08, 2011, 10:53:41 AM »

Quote from: tjanuranus on April 07, 2011, 03:10:49 PM

Quote from: jsem on April 07, 2011, 06:49:24 AM
Quote from: tjanuranus on April 07, 2011, 12:13:15 AM
Seriously? How could you support ANYONE who stands for the killing of an entire race of human beings?
No1's saying they support their views. Do you support the political views of John Petrucci just because you listen to the music?

I mean, as long as the lyrics or the music itself isn't about their political views, I'd gladly listen if it sounded allright.

You can't compare John petrucci being a conservative to being a Nazi. It's not the same. John petrucci has been my idol since i was about 14 years old. Now i'm 30 and he's still my favorite musician but if it came out that he believed in the Nazi philosophy then that would be the last day i would support him. That's being straight up and honest.

Also those pics are nothing more than you would see in any history class. That's History, there's nothing wrong with it.

He's saying to support one's music is not to support their political views.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #69 on:** February 16, 2012, 03:20:28 PM »

I think the whole Dave Mustaine + Rick Santorum problem is mildly relevant to this, so I'll bump to see if interesting points are brought up.

News: Track-by-track video for Paralyzed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5TbGbalPs&feature=youtu.be

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Author Topic: If a band you liked had Nazi sympathies... (Read 17524 times)

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