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12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« on: March 26, 2011, 08:17:35 AM »
This is pretty damn impressive. "The boy wonder, who taught himself calculus, algebra, geometry and trigonometry in a week"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369595/Jacob-Barnett-12-higher-IQ-Einstein-develops-theory-relativity.html

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 09:02:47 AM »
I am 15 and wat is this

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 09:04:23 AM »
This is pretty damn impressive. "The boy wonder, who taught himself calculus, algebra, geometry and trigonometry in a week"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369595/Jacob-Barnett-12-higher-IQ-Einstein-develops-theory-relativity.html

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2011, 09:15:49 AM »
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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2011, 09:22:02 AM »
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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2011, 09:23:53 AM »
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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2011, 09:40:30 AM »
double post fail


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Good on this guy. A lot of people have high IQ's but do nothing with their abilities. This guy doesn't seem to be wasting a second of his life. And I thought I was smart for taking advanced math independently as well as a higher grade class and having a 95% average ... lol.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 09:45:30 AM »
I hope he doesn't burn out, because that's what happens too. I remember this super-student when I did my Master's in EE who only got straight A's, and then he switched subjects in the 4th semester to social sciences. He said he didn't like the topic anymore.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2011, 10:04:32 AM »
double post fail

Yeah, but the second one still made me laugh. :lol

Kid prodigies often don't turn out too well.  Hopefully he won't be too screwed up as an adult.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2011, 10:06:37 AM »
I saw a documentary once about a kid like this from India. I think he was even younger, eight or nine. They took him to England and introduced him to a lab at a uni to see what might come of it. The reality was, the kid lacked the social skills or actual practical experience to achieve anything of worth with the scientists. He had no real concept of how to work with other people with his ideas, of how research is actually conducted, etc. Their end verdict was that he could be a brilliant scientist... once he was old enough and experienced enough.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2011, 10:13:58 AM »
I saw a documentary once about a kid like this from India. I think he was even younger, eight or nine. They took him to England and introduced him to a lab at a uni to see what might come of it. The reality was, the kid lacked the social skills or actual practical experience to achieve anything of worth with the scientists. He had no real concept of how to work with other people with his ideas, of how research is actually conducted, etc. Their end verdict was that he could be a brilliant scientist... once he was old enough and experienced enough.

It's very common for someone that is a genius in one category, to be almost crippled in another. I watched a documentary on idiot savants a few years ago. I believe it was inspired by Kim Peed / the movie Rain Man. It was all about people who have ridiculous amounts of talent in a certain area of study, but are more or less retarded everywhere else. One guy, I think he was almost twenty, had some of the most amazing artwork I have ever seen, sadly he had the mentality of a 4 year old. He would cry if him mom left the room, etc...

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2011, 10:15:48 AM »
I have an iq of 118 am I supah smartz

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2011, 10:47:31 AM »
I heard 92 is supposed to be good. :neverusethis:
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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2011, 10:54:42 AM »
This kid is nearly twice as smart as Wrath.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2011, 12:31:36 PM »
This kid is nearly twice as smart as Wrath.

Half of 170 is 85.  That's not retarded.  I think it's closer to three times as smart.

I hope he doesn't burn out, because that's what happens too. I remember this super-student when I did my Master's in EE who only got straight A's, and then he switched subjects in the 4th semester to social sciences. He said he didn't like the topic anymore.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2011, 12:39:37 PM »
I heard 92 is supposed to be good. :neverusethis:
This kid is nearly twice as smart as Wrath.
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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2011, 06:10:20 PM »
So just because he's a genius he gets to write with markers on his window? Not fair.

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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2011, 06:22:18 PM »
That 12 year old kid is smarter than i am.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2011, 06:24:08 PM »
So just because he's a genius he gets to write with markers on his window? Not fair.
Sounds like a little asshole that likes to ruin windows.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2011, 10:27:10 PM »
Great that he's good with math! Let's hope he has he common sense, empathy, and social skills to go with it- if he does then he's truly a wonderkid!

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2011, 10:28:26 PM »
I am 15 and wat is this
That's what I was gonna say, only replace 15 with 16. :P

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2011, 01:50:30 AM »
So just because he's a genius he gets to write with markers on his window? Not fair.

Permanent marker on glass is an academic tradition because they're easy to clean should you so desire, and at the same time are not as prone to smudges when done properly.  I write on glass all the time.  I'd much rather write on glass than a white board or chalkboard.
     

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2011, 06:14:37 AM »
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Jacob Barnett has an IQ of 170 - higher than Albert Einstein

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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2011, 06:56:05 AM »
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Jacob Barnett has an IQ of 170 - higher than Albert Einstein

...Einstein never took an IQ test...

No, but scientists have fairly accurate methods of determining people's IQ's by looking at their achievements. Einstein's IQ was estimated to be around 160.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2011, 11:06:14 AM »
I feel like the best thing for this kid would be to try and live a semi-normal life. He can revolutionize math and science when he's 25 - but let him have his childhood.

Then again, maybe his social skills are too impaired for him to have a normal childhood. Or maybe he can do all these things now and somehow evade burnout. Who knows?
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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2011, 11:16:56 AM »
If he has aspergers, his social skills are impaired. I've been around autistic kids during my high school life; it's tough for them in there. One of the symptoms is an extreme focus and obsession in one specific topic--in this kid's case, math.

Anyway, good for him. Hopefully his parents nurture his gift in the most appropriate way possible.

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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2011, 12:06:18 PM »
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Jacob Barnett has an IQ of 170 - higher than Albert Einstein

...Einstein never took an IQ test...

No, but scientists have fairly accurate methods of determining people's IQ's by looking at their achievements. Einstein's IQ was estimated to be around 160.

I'm always very cautious though when I see those statements about those high IQs. Problem is, the IQ scale follows a bell curve, and as such the more you deviate from the mean, the fewer and fewer amount of data defines a certain IQ segment.
To use the math, the IQ's bell curve is defined to have a standard deviation of 15. So, an IQ 170 is 4.6 standard deviations away from the mean, which in turn means 0.0019% of the population that have an IQ of 100. Obviously, 0.00019% isn't a lot of people, meaning this part of the IQ curve is defined by a handful of individuals and thus not really statistically significant.
I mean, there's no question these people have a way higher IQ than the average person, but the discussion of whether Einstein or this kid has a higher IQ is statistically a moot discussion. (to go completely technical, the problem is that the size of the confidence interval increases the further away from the mean you get. At 5 standard deviations away the confidence interval is quite likely much bigger than the difference in Einstein's and the kid's IQ).

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2011, 12:44:54 PM »
I hope he doesn't burn out, because that's what happens too. I remember this super-student when I did my Master's in EE who only got straight A's, and then he switched subjects in the 4th semester to social sciences. He said he didn't like the topic anymore.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2011, 01:02:48 PM »
The thing is, that kind of position in society creates so much pressure and expectations, that often enough they crack or do something totally different that has nothing to do with their skill.
My mom once told me that the teachers at my school were discussing having me skip a year, because I was perennially bored at school. My parents eventually decided against it; I was already one of the youngest in my class, and skipping another would have exacerbated it even further. And in hindsight, whether you get to do in your life what you want to depends on a lot of other factors too. A year ahead or not in school would have created a major social issue for me, with little educational benefit.
So, I essentially grew up in school never doing my homework. Worse things have happened to people :D

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2011, 01:05:44 PM »
So, I essentially grew up in school never doing my homework. Worse things have happened to people :D

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Same here.. Worked great for high school (that's until 18 here), but not so great now that I'm in university... I don't really know how to study and I have zero attention span. The 'it's going to be alright' attitude has kind of burned into me.

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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2011, 01:19:08 PM »
Oh yeah, me too. I went to university and suddenly realized that I couldn't just breeze through anymore. The single most important thing university taught me is to create my own motivation.

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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2011, 01:37:31 PM »
Oh yeah, me too. I went to university and suddenly realized that I couldn't just breeze through anymore. The single most important thing university taught me is to create my own motivation.

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What kind of marks were you getting "breezing through"?

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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2011, 02:21:16 PM »
Oh yeah, me too. I went to university and suddenly realized that I couldn't just breeze through anymore. The single most important thing university taught me is to create my own motivation.

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What kind of marks were you getting "breezing through"?
Mine were average, but then I did literally nothing. Just kind of flapped the sheets of my books before an exam and only made assignments that were graded.
Oh yeah, me too. I went to university and suddenly realized that I couldn't just breeze through anymore. The single most important thing university taught me is to create my own motivation.

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How did you "create your own motivation"? I really wish I had done well on my first exams in January. I just couldn't bring myself to study more than 2-4 hours a day and even when I was studying it was at a very slow pace and with a lot of distractions and breaks. I got a 6, 7, 9, 9 and a 12 (all on 20) which kind of sucks. But even now I can't bring myself to keep up what we have seen so far in the second semester...

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2011, 02:34:26 PM »
I had the same problem. I did almost no work whatsoever in high school and came out with honors and grades allowing me to get into the best mathematics school in the country.

University was a bit of a rude awakening.

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Re: 12 Year old with an IQ of 170.
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2011, 02:36:49 PM »
What school?