Author Topic: The Official Opeth Thread: New Album now streaming (Read 355747 times)

zxlkho · « **Reply #1470 on:** August 01, 2011, 12:54:21 PM »

Blackwater Park. That is all I have to say on the subject.

Zantera · « **Reply #1471 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:14:04 PM »

Quote from: zxlkho on August 01, 2011, 12:54:21 PM

Blackwater Park. That is all I have to say on the subject.

The song or the album?
The song is one of their best, but the album is not.

zxlkho · « **Reply #1472 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:16:05 PM »

Both are the best actually.

Ħ · « **Reply #1473 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:19:58 PM »

Honestly, I don't see what so impressive about BP, MAYH, SL, or any of the "oldies".

zxlkho · « **Reply #1474 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:22:06 PM »

That's because you're an H.

darkshade · « **Reply #1475 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:23:32 PM »

Ghost Reveries
Blackwater Park
Deliverance
Still Life
My Arms, Your Hearse
Watershed
Damnation

Morningrise
Orchid

Ħ · « **Reply #1476 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:24:15 PM »

Ghost Reveries
Watershed
everything else

zxlkho · « **Reply #1477 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:28:12 PM »

BWP
Still Life
Ghost Reveries
Deliverence
Watershed
Damnation
MAYH
Morningrise
Orchid

Hayden, honestly have you even listened to those albums? Tell the truth.

DarkEternalNight · « **Reply #1478 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:33:32 PM »

Watershed
MAYH
Blackwater Park
Deliverance
Still Life
Damnation
Ghost Reveries
Orchid
Morningrise

Ħ · « **Reply #1479 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:34:28 PM »

I've listened to SL a lot, seeing as it was my first Opeth album. I've spun MAYH, Deliverance, BWP, and Orchid a couple times too and I just don't see what's so great about them. They lack dynamic, or something. Haven't listened to Damnation or Morningrise though.

zxlkho · « **Reply #1480 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:35:07 PM »

They lack DYNAMIC?

Wow.

Ħ · « **Reply #1481 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:37:14 PM »

Quote from: zxlkho on August 01, 2011, 01:35:07 PM

They lack DYNAMIC?

Wow.

At least compared to GR. I usually don't like songs that are straight up death metal with loud indecipherable riffs. GR has the perfect balance of clean and heavy, and even when it's heavy, the sound is still crisp. I think every song on GR has at least one soft section, right?

zxlkho · « **Reply #1482 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:37:49 PM »

Well no shit. So do ALL of their albums.

Ħ · « **Reply #1483 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:39:10 PM »

Well, that's where I disagree. Before GR, they just sounded muddy.

zxlkho · « **Reply #1484 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:40:35 PM »

I'm lolling so hard right now. I can't even think of a response to this right now.

skydivingninja · « **Reply #1485 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:42:10 PM »

...um, Letters was saying "no shit" to your question of having clean sections on every heavy song. I mean, its what they DO. Even Demon of the Fall has cleaner, melodic stuff in there. The muddiness on their first two albums is a production thing, but they fixed it up quite a bit on MAYH, and BWP's production is very good and have none of those "indecipherable death metal riffs" you're talking about.

zxlkho · « **Reply #1486 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:42:54 PM »

That's why I think he hasn't listened to these albums.

Ħ · « **Reply #1487 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:43:59 PM »

I''ll have to listen to them again. I guess I'm more of a fan of melody-driven "obvious"-sounding music, which is probably why I like GR and WS the most. From what I've gathered, you guys like atmospheric, dreamy music, which might be why you like those better.

Sigz · « **Reply #1488 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:44:21 PM »

God dammit Hayden.

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #1489 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:44:42 PM »

I find it a bit odd that you said the earlier ones lacked dynamic against Ghost Reveries, of all albums. Maybe this is just me, but I consider that one to be a fair bit less exciting than most of the albums that you are contending with, and I do believe that has to do with the dynamics, at least insofar as the changes in mood, if not style. To me that album is just a bit similar and boring in terms of pretty much keeping the exact same mood throughout and not really doing much with it.

zxlkho · « **Reply #1490 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:45:14 PM »

I'm pretty sure Blackwater Park has plenty of melodies to go around. Fucking hell dude, just actually listen to the album.

darkshade · « **Reply #1491 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:45:40 PM »

I could understand his sentiments for the first 2 or 3 albums, but from Still Life onwards, there is a lot of dynamics, most of the riffs are heavy, not necessarily death metal riffs, I wouldn't call much of anything from SL-GR "muddy", and there are some cleaner moments throughout.

Ghost Reveries is actually the same kind of album as Still Life, BWP, and Deliverance, it's just there is more presence of keyboards and more atmosphere (the reason I like it the most btw)

Ryzee · « **Reply #1492 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:45:56 PM »

I'd probably rank Ghost Reveries third behind Blackwater Park and Still Life which is my favorite album of theirs. However, Ghost Reveries does contain my favorite Opeth song which is Ghost of Perdition.

zxlkho · « **Reply #1493 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:46:40 PM »

Ghost of Perdition is definitely in my top 5 songs.

Gadough · « **Reply #1494 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:50:17 PM »

Ghost of Perdition is the only good Opeth album anyway so this discussion is irrelevant.

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #1495 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:51:16 PM »

Quote from: Gadough on August 01, 2011, 01:50:17 PM

Ghost of Perdition is the only good Opeth album anyway so this discussion is irrelevant.

I never cared for that one

darkshade · « **Reply #1496 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Gadough on August 01, 2011, 01:50:17 PM

Ghost of Perdition is the only good Opeth album anyway so this discussion is irrelevant.

I didn't know they made an album called Ghost of Perdition!!!

zxlkho · « **Reply #1497 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:51:57 PM »

heh. ghost of perdition. album. heh.

Gadough · « **Reply #1498 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:52:49 PM »

Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on August 01, 2011, 01:51:16 PM

Quote from: Gadough on August 01, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
Ghost of Perdition is the only good Opeth album anyway so this discussion is irrelevant.

I never cared for that one

it's a great album man you should give it a spin sometime

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #1499 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:53:32 PM »

Quote from: Gadough on August 01, 2011, 01:52:49 PM

Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on August 01, 2011, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: Gadough on August 01, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
Ghost of Perdition is the only good Opeth album anyway so this discussion is irrelevant.

I never cared for that one

it's a great album man you should give it a spin sometime

Can I have a link?

skydivingninja · « **Reply #1500 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:54:28 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on August 01, 2011, 01:43:59 PM

I''ll have to listen to them again. I guess I'm more of a fan of melody-driven "obvious"-sounding music, which is probably why I like GR and WS the most. From what I've gathered, you guys like atmospheric, dreamy music, which might be why you like those better.

Then why don't you like Lady Gaga? :neveruesthis:

But seriously, BWP is melody-driven, "obvious," and has its fair share of the atmospheric acoustic parts.

Ħ · « **Reply #1501 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:54:49 PM »

Okay, let's take Still Life as our example, since it's the one I'm most familiar with. The album starts off great with The Moor, which I really dig. But the rest of the album is just...boring. I dunno, I can't describe it. Maybe I'll do a song-by-song to organize myself.

Godhead's Lament is muddy and bland.

Benighted is a nice ballad, probably #2 on the album. Short n' sweet.

Moonlapse Vertigo is muddy and bland, again.

Face of Melinda is supposed to be a fan favorite, but I don't see what's so great about it. Sure, it's nice, but nothing compared to songs like Coil, Hours of Wealth, and Isolation Years.

Serenity Painted Death - Again, another boring song.

White Cluster - Boring, again.

I'm sorry, but Still Life is just a boring album, where Ghost Reveries is very emotional, very fear-inducing, very...moving. Hard to describe. The only "eh" songs (and they are only "eh" by comparison with the others on the album) are Baying of the Hounds and Beneath the Mire. Everything else is flawless as far as I can tell.

darkshade · « **Reply #1502 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:55:56 PM »

I think my favorite album of theirs is Master's Apprentices

zxlkho · « **Reply #1503 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:56:25 PM »

Oh dear lord.

Gadough · « **Reply #1504 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:57:13 PM »

Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on August 01, 2011, 01:53:32 PM

Quote from: Gadough on August 01, 2011, 01:52:49 PM
Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on August 01, 2011, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: Gadough on August 01, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
Ghost of Perdition is the only good Opeth album anyway so this discussion is irrelevant.

I never cared for that one

it's a great album man you should give it a spin sometime

Can I have a link?

No. It's so rare that it's not even on Youtube or Grooveshark. Only true fans have access to it. Apparently, you're not one of them.

What a shame.

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