Author Topic: "Bands need bassists" and two-person bands (Read 12109 times)

Orbert · « **Reply #35 on:** February 22, 2011, 04:42:32 PM »

If you have a bass, you don't need vocals, guitars, or keys. Just bass solos. Except you don't call them solos because there's no one else in the band anyway.

Gadough · « **Reply #36 on:** February 22, 2011, 05:33:50 PM »

Quote from: Jamesman on February 22, 2011, 04:31:02 PM

Every band ever has to have bass. That is the definition of a band. Bass = band.

I legitimately lol'd at this.

Pyroph · « **Reply #37 on:** February 22, 2011, 05:42:17 PM »

Quote from: jsem on February 22, 2011, 04:27:39 PM

I've never considered Meg White attractive. That image hasn't convinced me otherwise. And that look on her face is the total attention is all i seek look.

Quote from: wiki

White is, by her own admission, "very shy" and gives few interviews. Because of this, when the band was interviewed, Jack White did most of the talking.[citation needed] She guards her privacy in a manner that she identifies with Bob Dylan, whom she admires.

glaurung · « **Reply #38 on:** February 22, 2011, 05:57:57 PM »

Quote from: jsem on February 22, 2011, 04:36:49 PM

According to James....

A marching band is not a band.

A wind band is not a band.

etc....

Aside from the fact James was joking, you know that there are other low end instruments... right?

Sigz · « **Reply #39 on:** February 22, 2011, 05:59:04 PM »

Quote from: glaurung on February 22, 2011, 05:57:57 PM

Quote from: jsem on February 22, 2011, 04:36:49 PM
According to James....

A marching band is not a band.

A wind band is not a band.

etc....

Aside from the fact James was joking, you know that there are other low end instruments... right?

*cough*GRAYCEON*cough*

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #40 on:** February 22, 2011, 06:44:56 PM »

Quote from: jsem on February 22, 2011, 04:27:39 PM

I've never considered Meg White attractive. That image hasn't convinced me otherwise. And that look on her face is the total attention is all i seek look.

That's funny. I don't recall noticing a face in that picture.

setrataeso · « **Reply #41 on:** February 22, 2011, 07:47:20 PM »

Quote from: jsem on February 22, 2011, 03:56:04 PM

So. You're denying that White Stripes would sound better with a bass?

Phail.

I don't think I ever said this.
But, yes, I would think The White Stripes would sound better with a bass. Does that mean that they are not a band, or that their music is useless because of the lack of bass?

orcus116 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 22, 2011, 07:51:05 PM »

The White Stripes incorporate enough bottom end as it is. Jack does usually play a low part on his guitar for many songs.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #43 on:** February 22, 2011, 07:52:41 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on February 22, 2011, 07:51:05 PM

The White Stripes incorporate enough bottom end as it is. Jack does usually play a low part on his guitar for many songs.

Yes, now if they could only write a good song..........

orcus116 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 22, 2011, 07:54:38 PM »

They've written plenty.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #45 on:** February 22, 2011, 07:57:00 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on February 22, 2011, 07:54:38 PM

They've written plenty.

I'll take the Raconteurs a thousand times over TWS. Just my opinion.

skydivingninja · « **Reply #46 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:01:20 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on February 22, 2011, 04:35:38 PM

I've having a hard time calling the bass a without a doubt must mainly due to the fact that a ton of bands have a bass solely to play the root notes, which is one of the most offensive wastes of an instrument.

This. There are plenty of rock/metal bands out there where you really can't hear the bass, and you don't really care, because they're either copying exactly what the guitarist does or they're just playing root notes. Its better if you can hear the bass along with the other instruments, but that's getting less and less possible thanks to the louder and louder production today and the fact that no one cares about us poor bass players except for those old guys with gold instruments that they blow into or something.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #47 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:04:30 PM »

Somehow I'd like to make a joke that those base players you guys are talking about are failed guitarists who picked up the bass and play with a pick. There are a lot of bass players like that in music today. Bass players using there fingers seem to be a thing of the past.

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:06:23 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on February 22, 2011, 08:04:30 PM

Somehow I'd like to make a joke that those baseplayer you guys are talking about are failed guitarists who picked up the bass and play with a pick. There are a lot of bass players like that in music today. Bass players using there fingers seem to be a thing of the past.

I use my fingers, using a pick would not work for me

skydivingninja · « **Reply #49 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:09:12 PM »

I only use a pick for about two songs that I practice: "Resistance" by Muse (just for the 16th note parts) and "Animate" by Rush (Geddy does a lot of chords in the live version, and they sound really cool, so the pick makes it easier. Plus, lots of fast 16ths in the studio version). Other than those, I never use a pick.

antigoon · « **Reply #50 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:10:54 PM »

I don't get the deal with people getting their panties all in a bunch when they see bassists playing with picks. Different sound.

Gorille85 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:13:32 PM »

Hmm. A band, to me, is just a group of people doing music. A band without a bass sound can sound weird at time but it is a valid band.

skydivingninja · « **Reply #52 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:15:45 PM »

Quote from: antigoon on February 22, 2011, 08:10:54 PM

I don't get the deal with people getting their panties all in a bunch when they see bassists playing with picks. Different sound.

Yeah, its a different sound, and sometimes a pick is necessary, but with a bass you get a fuller sound with your fingers, and I find its easier to do all sorts of quick little flourishes with your fingers rather than a pick on a bass (mostly because the strings are so far apart compared to a guitar). Plus you look cooler when you use your fingers.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #53 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:17:42 PM »

Quote from: antigoon on February 22, 2011, 08:10:54 PM

I don't get the deal with people getting their panties all in a bunch when they see bassists playing with picks. Different sound.

The difference it worlds apart anti. The are only a handfull of pick bass players that are better than average. When it comes to Bass, fingers are the way to go. A pick is a tool for a certain style or an effect. Theres an organic sound to a bass player who uses fingers. But I've side tracked us on the OP. Sorry. This is about no fingers or picks!

skydivingninja · « **Reply #54 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:18:46 PM »

King you've been a member long enough to know that thread derailment is imminent.

*cue UMH*

PlaysLikeMyung · « **Reply #55 on:** February 22, 2011, 09:22:35 PM »

Quote from: skydivingninja on February 22, 2011, 08:09:12 PM

I only use a pick for about two songs that I practice: "Resistance" by Muse (just for the 16th note parts) and "Animate" by Rush (Geddy does a lot of chords in the live version, and they sound really cool, so the pick makes it easier. Plus, lots of fast 16ths in the studio version). Other than those, I never use a pick.

If you can't do the sixteenths then you should be a better bass player

sneakyblueberry · « **Reply #56 on:** February 22, 2011, 10:24:30 PM »

Quote from: jsem on February 22, 2011, 03:56:04 PM

So. You're denying that White Stripes would sound better with a bass?

Phail.

That's just your opinion....

And its wrong. Have you ever seen a White Stripes show? There's no way they could do what they do live if they had another member to worry about.

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #57 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:58:46 AM »

I prefer bands with bassist.

skydivingninja · « **Reply #58 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:33:17 AM »

Quote from: PlaysLikeMyüng on February 22, 2011, 09:22:35 PM

Quote from: skydivingninja on February 22, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
I only use a pick for about two songs that I practice: "Resistance" by Muse (just for the 16th note parts) and "Animate" by Rush (Geddy does a lot of chords in the live version, and they sound really cool, so the pick makes it easier. Plus, lots of fast 16ths in the studio version). Other than those, I never use a pick.

If you can't do the sixteenths then you should be a better bass player

When its a very long line of sixteenths like that it kinda wears on your fingers (Resistance is all 16ths during the verses). Cut me some slack, I've been at this for a year and a half compared to how many years on your end? So sue me if I use a pick for two songs.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #59 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:37:21 AM »

I should post a few songs in the musicians section where I play guitar and my bro plays bass from the early 90's for shits and giggles.

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #60 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:57:11 AM »

Quote from: skydivingninja on February 23, 2011, 05:33:17 AM

Quote from: PlaysLikeMyüng on February 22, 2011, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: skydivingninja on February 22, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
I only use a pick for about two songs that I practice: "Resistance" by Muse (just for the 16th note parts) and "Animate" by Rush (Geddy does a lot of chords in the live version, and they sound really cool, so the pick makes it easier. Plus, lots of fast 16ths in the studio version). Other than those, I never use a pick.

If you can't do the sixteenths then you should be a better bass player

When its a very long line of sixteenths like that it kinda wears on your fingers (Resistance is all 16ths during the verses). Cut me some slack, I've been at this for a year and a half compared to how many years on your end? So sue me if I use a pick for two songs.

Speaking of 16th notes, a good endurance piece is "Poundcake" by Van Halen. You'll end up with a right forearm the size of Popeye.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #61 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:59:20 AM »

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 23, 2011, 06:57:11 AM

Speaking of 16th notes, a good endurance piece is "Poundcake" by Van Halen. You'll end up with a right forearm the size of Popeye.

That and What Is Hip by Tower Of Power.

ariich · « **Reply #62 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:08:16 AM »

What is Hip is so damn groovy! Nice to see another ToP fan on here.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #63 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:12:56 AM »

Quote from: ariich on February 23, 2011, 08:08:16 AM

What is Hip is so damn groovy! Nice to see another ToP fan on here.

Love seeing them live Rich. I have a great story about taking my brother who is a TOP freak to see them when he was 18 and we got the song list at the end of the show. Nothing beats seeing a band like this 3 feet away.

jsem · « **Reply #64 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:33:03 AM »

TOP is one of the greatest bands evar. I actually played a couple of TOP songs (on bari) not too long ago, live.

ariich · « **Reply #65 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:10:38 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on February 23, 2011, 08:12:56 AM

Quote from: ariich on February 23, 2011, 08:08:16 AM
What is Hip is so damn groovy! Nice to see another ToP fan on here.

Love seeing them live Rich. I have a great story about taking my brother who is a TOP freak to see them when he was 18 and we got the song list at the end of the show. Nothing beats seeing a band like this 3 feet away.

I can imagine. I mean, I like their studio albums, but I don't find any of them that special. Whereas Soul Vaccination is completely incredible, easily my favourite live album of all time (the only one I rate 5 stars even).

King Postwhore · « **Reply #66 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:16:51 AM »

Quote from: ariich on February 23, 2011, 09:10:38 AM

Quote from: kingshmegland on February 23, 2011, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: ariich on February 23, 2011, 08:08:16 AM
What is Hip is so damn groovy! Nice to see another ToP fan on here.

Love seeing them live Rich. I have a great story about taking my brother who is a TOP freak to see them when he was 18 and we got the song list at the end of the show. Nothing beats seeing a band like this 3 feet away.
I can imagine. I mean, I like their studio albums, but I don't find any of them that special. Whereas Soul Vaccination is completely incredible, easily my favourite live album of all time (the only one I rate 5 stars even).

My 5 star CD is T.O.P. Star to finish a home run.

https://listen.grooveshark.com/#/search?q=tower%20of%20power%20T.O.P.

Hal Incandenza · « **Reply #67 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:48:52 AM »

Quote from: orcus116 on February 22, 2011, 04:35:38 PM

I've having a hard time calling the bass a without a doubt must mainly due to the fact that a ton of bands have a bass solely to play the root notes, which is one of the most offensive wastes of an instrument.

This.

I don't think any instrument is totally essential, even in the context of a rock band. It's often interesting to see what machinations musicians get up to in order to cover the lack of one of the traditional instruments in their chosen style, or how it changes the music if they instead adapt to that missing piece. Me, though, I'm a sucker for moving bass parts that do something more interesting than just playing the damn root, and I tend not to like bands that don't have that element.

ariich · « **Reply #68 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:52:35 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on February 23, 2011, 09:16:51 AM

Quote from: ariich on February 23, 2011, 09:10:38 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on February 23, 2011, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: ariich on February 23, 2011, 08:08:16 AM
What is Hip is so damn groovy! Nice to see another ToP fan on here.

Love seeing them live Rich. I have a great story about taking my brother who is a TOP freak to see them when he was 18 and we got the song list at the end of the show. Nothing beats seeing a band like this 3 feet away.
I can imagine. I mean, I like their studio albums, but I don't find any of them that special. Whereas Soul Vaccination is completely incredible, easily my favourite live album of all time (the only one I rate 5 stars even).

My 5 star CD is T.O.P. Star to finish a home run.

https://listen.grooveshark.com/#/search?q=tower%20of%20power%20T.O.P.

Yeah TOP is my favourite of their studio albums, but it still doesn't have the same energy that SV has.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #69 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:58:05 AM »

There are no "must-have" instruments to have a band. A band only requires that there be at least two members. That is all.

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Author Topic: "Bands need bassists" and two-person bands (Read 12109 times)