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Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« on: February 14, 2011, 09:52:36 AM »
Arrests to the media criticizing the government in Turkey, it will most likely spark clashes there, too, from the leftist students. Burn the government down to the ground! Leave nothing behind!
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 09:59:32 AM »
Yeah, I have been reading up on this all morning. Yemen seems to be the worst right now. If it escalates, I'm curious what the US is going to do. I don't know if it is in our interests to have Ali Abdullah Saleh step down. The videos coming out of there seem brutal. I saw one of a guy getting his head smashed in by 3 guys with pipes. It is going to be really interesting to follow this the next few days.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 11:43:01 AM »
Sharif don't like it.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 01:27:34 PM »
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Sharif don't like it.

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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2011, 06:29:55 AM »
Libya joins in on the fun, clashes and police firing back.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2011, 08:51:43 AM »
Quote from: zerogravityfat on February 16, 2011, 06:29:55 AM
Libya joins in on the fun, clashes and police firing back.

Yeah, it's starting to get really bad. One article I read earlier said riot control is using water cannons on the crowd, and the water coming out is close to 200 degrees.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 08:04:32 PM »
It has spread and is spreading farther. This shall turn into a conflagration that shall reach to all corners of the world.
The reigning powers should be worried about the well being of their huddled masses. And the huddled masses should be thinking about their rights, are they being trampled by their respective governments?
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2011, 08:21:28 PM »
Quote from: Chino on February 16, 2011, 08:51:43 AM
Quote from: zerogravityfat on February 16, 2011, 06:29:55 AM
Libya joins in on the fun, clashes and police firing back.

Yeah, it's starting to get really bad. One article I read earlier said riot control is using water cannons on the crowd, and the water coming out is close to 200 degrees.
The problem is that the Libyans aren't terribly bad off.  You certainly don't want to ruffle Moammar's feathers, but from what I can tell, most people don't feel the need to.  They have pretty good quality of life, and while they do have an eccentric leader, he doesn't really rub his wealth in their faces while they suffer.  The Egyptians and Tunisians were both getting ripped off by the system, as well as being oppressed.  The Libyans appear to be oppressed but otherwise pretty well off.  Unless he gets medieval on them during the day of rage thing tomorrow, I don't think this will get a whole lot of traction.

I'm kind of starting to wonder if some of these protests aren't just bandwagoning.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2011, 10:46:54 PM »
Interesting developments. I'm interested in seeing where all these lead and how the governments of these nations act.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 02:29:27 AM »
I feel sorry for the brave Chinese who were slaughtered all those years ago in Tiananmen square.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 06:19:53 AM »
Quote from: El Barto on February 16, 2011, 08:21:28 PM

I'm kind of starting to wonder if some of these protests aren't just bandwagoning.


I think some of it is bandwagoning. Many people have probably been wating to revolt for years, and Egypt was trigger to making them go through with it as well. Some people probably see it as, I'm unhappy with a few aspects of government, lets fight.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 10:29:08 AM »
Quote from: Chino on February 17, 2011, 06:19:53 AM
Quote from: El Barto on February 16, 2011, 08:21:28 PM

I'm kind of starting to wonder if some of these protests aren't just bandwagoning.


I think some of it is bandwagoning. Many people have probably been wating to revolt for years, and Egypt was trigger to making them go through with it as well. Some people probably see it as, I'm unhappy with a few aspects of government, lets fight.
I say we all start protests accross america
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 12:27:35 PM »
People are too busy on their phones watching Jersey Shore to go out and rebel.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2011, 01:20:24 PM »
Quote from: The Texas Pirate! on February 17, 2011, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: Chino on February 17, 2011, 06:19:53 AM
Quote from: El Barto on February 16, 2011, 08:21:28 PM

I'm kind of starting to wonder if some of these protests aren't just bandwagoning.


I think some of it is bandwagoning. Many people have probably been wating to revolt for years, and Egypt was trigger to making them go through with it as well. Some people probably see it as, I'm unhappy with a few aspects of government, lets fight.
I say we all start protests accross america

American's are too lazy.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 01:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Chino on February 17, 2011, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: The Texas Pirate! on February 17, 2011, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: Chino on February 17, 2011, 06:19:53 AM
Quote from: El Barto on February 16, 2011, 08:21:28 PM

I'm kind of starting to wonder if some of these protests aren't just bandwagoning.


I think some of it is bandwagoning. Many people have probably been wating to revolt for years, and Egypt was trigger to making them go through with it as well. Some people probably see it as, I'm unhappy with a few aspects of government, lets fight.
I say we all start protests accross america

American's are too lazy.
But.. There's a REVOLUTION CALLING.. REVOLUTION CALLING NOOOWWW

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It's going to happen in USA too once ppl understand how badly they're being screwed by the corporatist system.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 04:00:07 PM »
Quote from: jsem on February 17, 2011, 01:52:55 PM
It's going to happen in USA too once ppl understand how badly they're being screwed by the corporatist system.
Nope.  Nobody here will notice if they're getting fucked as long as they have internet porn and a 3D television to watch NASCAR on.  Honestly, while I maintain that the freedom we so pride ourselves for is an illusion, we really do have a pretty good quality of life.  Americans have created the government they deserve, and it works quite well for the majority of them.  As long as they don't ask too many questions,  that is, but when has that ever been a problem. 

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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 08:10:19 PM »
Quote from: El Barto on February 17, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
Quote from: jsem on February 17, 2011, 01:52:55 PM
It's going to happen in USA too once ppl understand how badly they're being screwed by the corporatist system.
Nope.  Nobody here will notice if they're getting fucked as long as they have internet porn and a 3D television to watch NASCAR on.  Honestly, while I maintain that the freedom we so pride ourselves for is an illusion, we really do have a pretty good quality of life.  Americans have created the government they deserve, and it works quite well for the majority of them.  As long as they don't ask too many questions,  that is, but when has that ever been a problem. 
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2011, 01:32:39 PM »
Quote from: AndyDT on February 17, 2011, 02:29:27 AM
I feel sorry for the brave Chinese who were slaughtered last year  in Xinjiang.

I agree, revolt and take back what's yours East Turkistan!
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 05:38:00 PM »
Libya is going to hit the fan tomorrow morning, they are just shooting each other in the streets. If the army obeys the orders to put down the protesters at all costs as directed, there will be blood.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 05:49:56 PM »
What time will that be EST?
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 06:25:11 PM »
Quote from: zerogravityfat on February 20, 2011, 05:38:00 PM
Libya is going to hit the fan tomorrow morning, they are just shooting each other in the streets. If the army obeys the orders to put down the protesters at all costs as directed, there will be blood.
I don't want to post the video, but blood has already been spilled.

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BREAKING: Libyan ambassador to China has resigned #Libya #Feb17

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12:11 am: Libya's ambassador to China, Hussein Sadiq al Musrati, has just resigned on air with Al Jazeera Arabic. He called on the army to intervene, and has called all diplomatic staff to resign.

He made claims about a gunfight between Gaddafi's sons and also claimed that Gaddafi may have left Libya. Al Jazeera has no confirmation of these claims.

Edit: According to EuroPress Gaddafi escaped to Venezuela. PLEASE LET VENEZUELA BE NEXT, PLEASE LET VENEZUELA BE NEXT!
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 10:16:01 PM »
Wow.  Moammar really does seem to be as nutty as they've been saying.  I always figured he was just eccentric.

He was really in a pretty decent situation.  He had enough supporters to prop him up, and there really hadn't been a common anger.  Once you start killing protesters indiscriminately,  all bets are off.  This things got all the makings of a civil war.  I've seen reports that protesters have taken Benghazi and that some military units have changed sides. 
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2011, 03:59:17 AM »
Quote from: zerogravityfat on February 18, 2011, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: AndyDT on February 17, 2011, 02:29:27 AM
I feel sorry for the brave Chinese who were slaughtered last year  in Xinjiang.

I agree, revolt and take back what's yours East Turkistan!
I can see China clamping down far harder than the Middle East. They have greater state "infrastructure" AFAICT.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2011, 09:49:17 AM »
All I can think of is PoW, and the POW button.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2011, 07:32:31 PM »
so gaddafi is bombing his own people, time for the west to remember how much they fucked up in bosnia and go save the people from this murderer.
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2011, 09:33:43 PM »
I really don't see a good way for this to end.  If this thing turns int a free-for-all, anybody could come out on top, but somebody's got to be able to take charge.  The military is completely incompetent, so it won't be them.  There don't appear to be any popular opposition leaders.  It seems like they're destined for a power vacuum. 

As for outside involvement, it seems like the two things they need is border security and air suppression.  Given the ineptitude of the Libyan air force, anybody could keep them grounded (one way or another).  Securing the borders sounds like it'd be a lost cause, though.  Moammar's got a gazillion dollars to spend on African mercinaries, and I don't see how they could be kept out. 

What a mess. 
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Re: Clashes in Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Libya
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2011, 10:45:58 PM »
Quote from: zerogravityfat on February 21, 2011, 07:32:31 PM
so gaddafi is bombing his own people, time for the west to remember how much they fucked up in bosnia and go save the people from this murderer.

I agree.  While I hate the idea that the US sort of has to become the defacto world police because it puts us in a damned if we do, damned if we don't situation; I'd rather be damned if we do if it saves the lives of some civilians.
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