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Walls sounds really good with Tom too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQNLgAY74yU

Really enjoying the sound of this live album

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I sure miss Ray's voice in this band. Especially on a song like Walls.

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I sure miss Ray's voice in this band. Especially on a song like Walls.

Yeah me too. Glad he came out and sang Threads.
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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1194 on: August 28, 2020, 09:37:05 AM »
Listening to this on Spotify.

Takes me back to being there.
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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1195 on: August 28, 2020, 10:40:57 AM »
Walls sounds really good with Tom too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQNLgAY74yU

Samsara, if you haven't checked out Evergrey's latest album, it's probably one of their best so that would be a good place to start if you consider revisiting them.

I may have to do that as well.  They never did much for me either, so I wasn't very excited initially to find out that Ray was out of Redemption and Tom was in.  But I thought he really did a fantastic job on Long Night's Journey.  That one is right up there with Snowfall competing for the top spot for me.  So, not sure whether it is a case of his voice just sounding very fitting for the Redemption material, if I am warming up to this voice, or a bit of both.  But I am definitely open to checking out Evergrey again.  I am completely sold on Tom being the vocalist for Redemption, even though I do miss Ray.

Live, he doesn't seem to be as into it as a frontman.  I know he wasn't really as prepped for the ProgPower show, which is understandable.  But I wonder if he might also just be more comfortable if he had a guitar in his hands.  I remember Nick saying that the two of them had decided that he wouldn't play guitar in Redemption so as to avoid it sounding like Evergrey 2.0.  But in a live setting, if it makes him look more comfortable having a guitar, especially during instrumental breaks where he has nothing to do otherwise, I don't think it could hurt to have him play.  There are certainly enough layered guitar parts on the albums for him to play a part.
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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1196 on: August 28, 2020, 05:54:59 PM »
Walls sounds really good with Tom too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQNLgAY74yU

Samsara, if you haven't checked out Evergrey's latest album, it's probably one of their best so that would be a good place to start if you consider revisiting them.

I may have to do that as well.  They never did much for me either, so I wasn't very excited initially to find out that Ray was out of Redemption and Tom was in.  But I thought he really did a fantastic job on Long Night's Journey.  That one is right up there with Snowfall competing for the top spot for me.  So, not sure whether it is a case of his voice just sounding very fitting for the Redemption material, if I am warming up to this voice, or a bit of both.  But I am definitely open to checking out Evergrey again.  I am completely sold on Tom being the vocalist for Redemption, even though I do miss Ray.

Live, he doesn't seem to be as into it as a frontman.  I know he wasn't really as prepped for the ProgPower show, which is understandable.  But I wonder if he might also just be more comfortable if he had a guitar in his hands.  I remember Nick saying that the two of them had decided that he wouldn't play guitar in Redemption so as to avoid it sounding like Evergrey 2.0.  But in a live setting, if it makes him look more comfortable having a guitar, especially during instrumental breaks where he has nothing to do otherwise, I don't think it could hurt to have him play.  There are certainly enough layered guitar parts on the albums for him to play a part.

This.  From the clips I've seen from this DVD, I think Tom playing guitar would have made the thing much more epic and believable.  I hope they revisit this decision in the future for the next album.

Tom's lead playing is actually amazing too and was disappointed when it was announced he wouldn't be doing any leads on the album.

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1197 on: August 28, 2020, 07:08:51 PM »
Since the blu-ray was delayed a week, I'm taking the audio for a spin today.  I really love the sound of this release, the mix and production is fantastic.  The guitars are so crunchy and crystal clear and the keys and bass aren't lost at all.  Can't wait to watch the video portion of the show!

What I do like is hearing a little of Tom's regular-styled vocals coming through on some of the older songs.  I get why he chose to do things differently on the studio album, but it just makes me want to hear him go full on Tom on the next disc.  Regardless, he's an amazing singer and I love the versatility that he's showing between the two bands.  He sounds fantastic on this live album.

If you listen to Noonday Devil on the live album and enjoy Tom's vocals, I don't see why you wouldn't like him in Evergrey. 

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1198 on: September 11, 2020, 12:20:40 PM »
I have to be honest, Tom's over-the-top style in Evergrey was and still is one of the things that has prevented me from enjoying more of their music. 


When I first heard this album I had no idea Ray Alder had left and I was shocked to hear a different vocalist but I went with it and he really grew on me a lot and so by the time I finished my first listen to the album I thought this guy was a good replacement.  I had NO IDEA it was Tom. 


If he sang like this in Evergrey they might have been my favorite band.  :eek   This is so much better than all that forced, over-emotive stuff he does with Evergrey. 

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1199 on: September 16, 2020, 04:45:06 PM »
My digipack with Blu-Ray came in today. Gonna look for myself in the video, if I don't get side tracked by the playing haha.

But there's a picture of the audience where the Blu-ray sits and I believe I found myself. Basing this off of pictures I have from that night.

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1200 on: September 16, 2020, 04:48:55 PM »
I guess that should put me right behind you or something  :lol That's pretty cool... still waiting for my signed copy from the kickstarter. 

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1201 on: September 16, 2020, 04:58:52 PM »
I guess that should put me right behind you or something  :lol That's pretty cool... still waiting for my signed copy from the kickstarter.

It was a fantastic show and am so grateful to be a part of it, and have an official momento.
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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1202 on: September 16, 2020, 05:03:37 PM »
So close to this happening to me


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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1203 on: September 16, 2020, 07:25:10 PM »
I guess that should put me right behind you or something  :lol That's pretty cool... still waiting for my signed copy from the kickstarter.

Fixed. I replied to Nick that I didn’t give a dan, I just want to watch the damned thing. Still no idea when they’re gonna ship to the ORIGINAL backers.

Seriously, the way they’ve handled the Kickstarter campaign has pretty much guaranteed I’ll never crowdfund again. Virtually no communication in 2 years, and now the label gets the lions share of attention. @ Ben, did you contribute to Kickstarter, or order once they had the AFM deal.
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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1205 on: September 16, 2020, 09:54:42 PM »
I guess that should put me right behind you or something  :lol That's pretty cool... still waiting for my signed copy from the kickstarter.

Fixed. I replied to Nick that I didn’t give a dan, I just want to watch the damned thing. Still no idea when they’re gonna ship to the ORIGINAL backers.

Seriously, the way they’ve handled the Kickstarter campaign has pretty much guaranteed I’ll never crowdfund again. Virtually no communication in 2 years, and now the label gets the lions share of attention. @ Ben, did you contribute to Kickstarter, or order once they had the AFM deal.

I ordered once the AFM orders were available. If I knew about the kickstarter, I would've gotten it then. It's unfortunate you guys are getting the short end of it.

Edit: And Boo...I can't watch this on my laptop. The Disc shows up in my player name and all. But it won't play the disc. It plays on the one I use for my TV.
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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1206 on: September 17, 2020, 05:51:56 AM »
There’s an update in the “updates” section of the campaign. They should be shipping soon. But you need to email Nick if your address has been updated or if you want all of the band members’ signatures.

For whatever reason, I don’t email notifications when updates  are posted from the KS campaign.
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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1207 on: September 17, 2020, 11:40:18 AM »
Kickstarter has stopped sending me emails because I didn't verify my email address some time ago, when they sent out re-verification emails.

Regarding the Redemption campaign, I understood the message as everyone being required to send their address and format of choice (DVD or Blu-ray) even if they haven't changed.

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1208 on: September 17, 2020, 12:03:44 PM »
There’s an update in the “updates” section of the campaign. They should be shipping soon. But you need to email Nick if your address has been updated or if you want all of the band members’ signatures.

For whatever reason, I don’t email notifications when updates  are posted from the KS campaign.

I already did that - last week.  I too am not getting notifications where there are updates in the Campaign.  But again...I have a beef that orders from AFM or whatever other distribution outlet are already being fulfilled, and KS backers are still

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1209 on: September 17, 2020, 01:20:56 PM »
Yea, the process turns me off too.  I even considered just buying from AFM to get my copy quick and then telling Redemption to hold onto my copy until the whole band can sign, but I'm honestly just a little turned off to want to spend more money now.  I was really behind the idea of the kickstarter being that I knew I would be in attendance, but at the end of the day, it is starting to sour me as it seems the backers get a bit of the shaft here which is unfortunate.  I'm still looking forward to getting this, but my anticipation has definitely weakened because I have no idea when this will arrive.  The last update said "next week" and that was almost two weeks ago.

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Re: The official Redemption thread v. Long Night's Journey Into Day - July 27th
« Reply #1210 on: September 17, 2020, 03:38:24 PM »
Watching the Blu-Ray now...

Really great sound and video...

Also, I saw The Walrus all jamming out at the end of NoonDay Devil
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