Author Topic: Ministry of Lost Souls Appreciation Thread (Read 7325 times)

bloop · « **on:** February 06, 2011, 12:39:39 PM »

A song that gets crap on a regular basis. Sure it drags a bit, but it has a fantastic instrumental section and a great vocal performance. Also dat unison.

Discuss you appreciation or whatever.

juice · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:41:44 PM »

I used to really like it. Now I think its still a good song just not as good as previously thought. *appreciates*

FretMuppet · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:43:06 PM »

Its definitely in my top 10. Its the song that made me LOVE DT when I found out about them. Its so melodic and has an immense build up before dropping off after an amazing unison into more melodic bliss

/appreciate

VioletS16 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:43:55 PM »

It's good, but there seems to be a really wacky part at around...well 11:40 maybe...right after he says "all the way to heaaaaveeenn!" it cuts to the Chorus, and it seems like it was a mistake.

*Appreciates*

ariich · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:44:33 PM »

I love it, my favourite song from SC. A it doesn't drag for me at all.

contest_sanity · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:47:48 PM »

I'll appreciate it. Certainly not a top-tier DT song, nor even my favorite off SC, but still a good song. I know the instrumental section gets a lot of criticism, but, for me at least, it's what the song builds to. If it just ended before that section, I think I would find the song a bit boring.

ReaPsTA · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:49:49 PM »

It contains two of JP's ten best solos ever.

Mladen · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:51:10 PM »

My second favorite Dream Theater song.

It's beautiful.

RoeDent · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:53:27 PM »

I love the key changes during the closing solo.

The Letter M · « **Reply #9 on:** February 06, 2011, 01:13:32 PM »

Easily one of my Top 5 songs over the last 3 albums. Despite what some may say about the instrumental section, I think it fits well considering the concept and the lyrics of the song, and the transition is pretty smooth and natural, IMO, and the ending is just great!

Appreciated!

-Marc.

pogoowner · « **Reply #10 on:** February 06, 2011, 01:20:50 PM »

It's not a great song by any means, but it's probably my favorite from Systematic Chaos. I don't understand why it gets so much flak.

Lowdz · « **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2011, 01:34:57 PM »

Never drags for me. If I was to play only 2 songs from SC they would be Forsaken and this.
I love every note of it.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:00:20 PM »

Quote from: RoeDent on February 06, 2011, 12:53:27 PM

I love the key changes during the closing solo.

I do as well. This is one of those things that no one ever seems to mention, but I think are fantastic.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:23:09 PM »

Quote from: VioletS16 on February 06, 2011, 12:43:55 PM

It's good, but there seems to be a really wacky part at around...well 11:40 maybe...right after he says "all the way to heaaaaveeenn!" it cuts to the Chorus, and it seems like it was a mistake.

*Appreciates*

Oh good somebody else thinks that as well.

God tier unison though.

Moonchild · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2011, 03:17:41 PM »

I'll say it again.

It slowly builds up great but when it reaches the boring instrumental section it dies, then theres a great solo out of nowhere that has nothing to do with the song and finally somewhat revives to a decent ending after the gentle spoken words.

It's one of those "could have been great" songs.

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2011, 03:22:38 PM »

I find it massively boring. I wish I could like it.

MirzekDT · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2011, 04:05:07 PM »

I used to love it, really love it. But it didn't age well at all now it's kind of medicore. I just don't feel those deep emotions I was feeling from listening to it when SC was new anymore. I probably overplayed it I guess. But the transition to instrumental section and the ending solo (yes especially the keys beneath actually as there was already mentioned) are still flawless

ricky · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2011, 04:48:30 PM »

I don't have anything scholarly to ad but...

I like it.

lithium112 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2011, 07:59:17 PM »

Amazing song from beginning to glorious end. Favourite song on SC and probably top 5 or 10 overall for me. I've loved the melody, the instrumental break, the solo and the sweet-ass outro. The atmosphere created in the verse is perfect for this song. And the lyrics are pretty good as well.

*appreciates immensely*

Jirpo · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:04:33 PM »

I love this song, possible top 10 contender for me. Absolutely fantastic, and even with ITPOE pt1 for the best track on the album.

*appreciates*

m0hawk · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2011, 10:10:35 PM »

Definitely love this song. It's got both DAT MELODY and DAT OUTRO in it.

It's been mentioned already in this thread, but that outro solo has got some of Jordan's best work on it. Simple yet beautiful.

Nic35 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2011, 10:15:39 PM »

Awesome song. JP's solos (the one right after the unison and of course the ending solo) are amongst his best.

PetFish · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2011, 12:47:47 AM »

Great song but it seems so cut/paste with many inappropriately abrupt transitions ESPECIALLY from quiet to LOUD and it starts right from the 0s mark. I adore the melodies and the "simple" solos too much to let the cut/paste bother me too much.

Riceball · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2011, 01:45:08 AM »

Certainly my second favourite from SC (behind Enemies), and in my top 20 at least. Haven't ever actually sat down and objectively worked out my top X, but for some reason top 10 seemed a bit to generous while top 50 seemed a bit stingy. Man I'm rambling alot today...

Anyway, the wave-like progression of the song gets me. Doesn't drag for a moment, very enjoyable listen.

Psy · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:57:11 AM »

I haven't listened to this song in over 3 years now but I remember it being a very powerful song. Looking at it now though, I can't believe it's such a long song. Makes me think it'll be hard to stomach.

Sigz · « **Reply #25 on:** February 07, 2011, 05:59:36 AM »

The instrumental really disrupts the song, but the other parts are amazing.

Bill Carson · « **Reply #26 on:** February 07, 2011, 06:05:31 AM »

I remember learning this lesson back when Yngwie Malmsteen changed record company and released Fire & Ice.
Basically its a rehash of older ideas to appeal to a new audience.
So older fans will probably not be too fussed with this song (as well as the album) and newer fans will love it.
Its okay, very good in places but forgettable.

Lowdz · « **Reply #27 on:** February 07, 2011, 06:42:23 AM »

Quote from: PetFish on February 07, 2011, 12:47:47 AM

Great song but it seems so cut/paste with many inappropriately abrupt transitions ESPECIALLY from quiet to LOUD and it starts right from the 0s mark. I adore the melodies and the "simple" solos too much to let the cut/paste bother me too much.

Abrupt transitions were DT's style at the start- just see WD&DU. Everything is like that on that one. I like it.

RuRoRul · « **Reply #28 on:** February 07, 2011, 09:56:14 AM »

An amazing song, and includes one of their best instrumentals.

VioletS16 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 07, 2011, 12:12:57 PM »

Quote from: Lowdz on February 07, 2011, 06:42:23 AM

Quote from: PetFish on February 07, 2011, 12:47:47 AM
Great song but it seems so cut/paste with many inappropriately abrupt transitions ESPECIALLY from quiet to LOUD and it starts right from the 0s mark. I adore the melodies and the "simple" solos too much to let the cut/paste bother me too much.

Abrupt transitions were DT's style at the start- just see WD&DU. Everything is like that on that one. I like it.

Yeah, but I know what he's talking about. In their other songs, the abrupt-ness sounds great, but there is something about this one that just seems unprofessional. I don't know. Doesn't take much away for me, though, honestly.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #30 on:** February 07, 2011, 01:04:18 PM »

Got to love the instrumental, it works well and has the beautiful unison at the end. If they had cut it out and made a solo under the buildup to the instrumental, it'd be like hollow years.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #31 on:** February 07, 2011, 01:18:57 PM »

I really have no problems with this song. The main melody is beautiful, the piano lines are gorgeus and LaBrie is terrific. It's missing something, though (IMO).

reneranucci · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:23:01 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 07, 2011, 01:18:57 PM

I really have no problems with this song. The main melody is beautiful, the piano lines are gorgeus and LaBrie is terrific. It's missing something, though (IMO).

Exactly.

When I listened to it for the first time I said Woah, I have a new top favorite DT song! Everything on it is very good, and it has some moments that give you chills (the "I wanted to deserve a place" James + piano bit and the heavy rythm guitar at the beginning of the instrumental section) but it's somewhat lacking. I think the missing part is a strong emotional impact on the listener on the second part, which is fine in the first part. If it could take you to a emotional climax like Voices, Learning To Live or Trial of Tears, it would be one of their best songs. But it gets emotionally stale at some point.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #33 on:** February 07, 2011, 03:03:14 PM »

Amazing song. Top 10 for sure.

RaiseTheKnife · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2011, 10:32:20 PM »

JP's hauntingly twisted story appeals to me. it not easy to tell a David Lynch-esque story in song format. not easy at all.

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Author Topic: Ministry of Lost Souls Appreciation Thread (Read 7325 times)