Author Topic: Wrestling - Road to Wrestlemania 29 (Read 213154 times)

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1855 on:** January 26, 2014, 08:25:30 AM »

Agreed that Daniel Bryan is the natural choice.... and it seems that WWE is going out of their way to try to prevent him from closing the show.

Hopefully they allow Bryan to sneak into the Rumble, perhaps taking Rowen or Harper's spot and win it all. That building would erupt. But if WWE really wants Batista or Punk to win the Rumble, then perhaps they feel that keeping Bryan out of it will give the crowd reason to cheer for either of those.

I feel that Punk should be the pick if not Bryan. He has never closed out Mania, and his white hot run was sabotaged last year just so Rock can come back and win the title at last year's Rumble. But now, it's looking like that Kane, or to a greater extent, Triple H will ensure that Punk doesn't win the thing.

Personally, I'd love to see someone like Kofi or Dolph win, but I don't think that the WWE has the stones to go out on a limb like that.

Syzzle · « **Reply #1856 on:** January 26, 2014, 08:51:39 AM »

PWInsider reports that the top 5 matches for WrestleMania XXX look like this:

* Batista vs. Randy Orton for the WWE World Heavyweight Title
* Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker
* Bray Wyatt vs. John Cena
* CM Punk vs Triple H
* Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus
(Possibly Ryback vs Ultimate Warrior)

Pretty much all of these matches are set in stone.

Edit: Also there's this

- While a contract itself hasn't been signed yet, talks between Sting and WWE are so far that they are discussing concepts for him using the name "A Man Called Sting."

KevShmev · « **Reply #1857 on:** January 26, 2014, 08:54:24 AM »

No way do I believe that.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #1858 on:** January 26, 2014, 08:59:19 AM »

Of those, I only believe in Batista/Orton and Punk/HHH.

Zook · « **Reply #1859 on:** January 26, 2014, 08:59:22 AM »

A man called Sting.... Sounds legit.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1860 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:00:33 AM »

Quote from: KevShmev on January 26, 2014, 08:54:24 AM

No way do I believe that.

I don't want to believe it.... but I wouldn't put it past "creative".

KevShmev · « **Reply #1861 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:05:44 AM »

I find it hard to believe that Cena will be wasted by having a match with that fat slob at the 30th Wrestlemania. Love him or hate him, Cena is still their biggest draw, and he'll either be in the title match, going against Undertaker, or having a match against an established big star.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1862 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:10:29 AM »

That is a good point. Cena's still their guy, as much as it pains me to say it.

Syzzle · « **Reply #1863 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:12:28 AM »

There isn't a lot of options for Cena if you put him against Undertaker then what do you do with Lesnar? (And Sting if they manage to sign him)

KevShmev · « **Reply #1864 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:15:40 AM »

Sting might not even be able to wrestle at WM, since his TNA contract, which will be expiring soon, might not allow work with another company that soon.

Odds are, if Sting does sign, his first RAW appearance will end with him getting pedigreed.

KevShmev · « **Reply #1865 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:18:10 AM »

Besides, it's obvious who should be main eventing Wrestlemania:

Dimitrius · « **Reply #1866 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:25:06 AM »

I would laugh at the Sting thing if it wasn't so damn plausible!

And yes, AJ should definitely main event WM.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1867 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:48:57 AM »

I don't want to see Brock wrestle the Undertaker. I wouldn't trust him in that match. Give Brock to Batista and let Taker wrestle Cena. That would work for me.

As for Sting and his no compete... I think WWE could convince TNA to lift that. They've had arrangements in the past, like allowing Flair to attend the HoF ceremony where he was to be inducted with the Horsemen, or when they had Christian show up to TNA briefly. But if you have Sting at mania, you could give him someone like Del Rio to beat, then use the next year to build up him and Taker.... that is if Taker is till functioning.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #1868 on:** January 26, 2014, 10:43:38 AM »

So, I think it's well known that Hunico is now playing Sin Cara (he was at it than Místico anyway), well I'm seeing a interview with Místico (as Sin Cara) on a Mexican show and he's saying that he owns the rights to the characters and his lawyers will talk to WWE is about it...

He is now wearing the Sin Cara mask but with eyeholes and the contact lenses he used to wear as Místico.

Syzzle · « **Reply #1869 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:11:45 AM »

I seriously doubt he owns the rights to the character. WWE usually owns the Character rights for merchandise purposes.

Jaffa · « **Reply #1870 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:33:25 AM »

Quote from: Syzzle on January 26, 2014, 08:51:39 AM

PWInsider reports that the top 5 matches for WrestleMania XXX look like this:

* Batista vs. Randy Orton for the WWE World Heavyweight Title
* Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker
* Bray Wyatt vs. John Cena
* CM Punk vs Triple H
* Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus
(Possibly Ryback vs Ultimate Warrior)

Pretty much all of these matches are set in stone.

Edit: Also there's this

- While a contract itself hasn't been signed yet, talks between Sting and WWE are so far that they are discussing concepts for him using the name "A Man Called Sting."

I may end up eating my words on this, but I'm almost willing to bet that none of these matches are actually 'set in stone'. I've just seen too many conflicting reports to be able to trust any of them. Besides, I doubt even creative knows for sure what is happening at Mania yet.

KevShmev · « **Reply #1871 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:38:45 AM »

BTW, does it go without saying that Big Show's knockout punch is the worst finisher ever? Guys punch each all of the time in matches, but Show's is supposedly so powerful that it knocks the guy out, to the point where he could get a 30-count if need be?

, okay.

Jaffa · « **Reply #1872 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:46:20 AM »

Well, I mean, the guy's fist is the size of a fucking ham, so it kinda makes sense to me to that his punch would be more effective than others, to be honest. But yeah, they overdo it.

What bothers me more is the fact that closed fists are supposed to be illegal. Obviously they break that imaginary rule all the time, but every once in a while they spotlight it, and you often see the referees signaling that a strike was open-handed, so they do try to pretend that the rule is legit. Until Big Show does it. Then for some odd reason they blatantly refer to it as a punch and nobody has any problem with it. Continuity errors like that bug me.

masterthes · « **Reply #1873 on:** January 26, 2014, 12:00:02 PM »

Batista's going to have a title run soon. Remember, he's in that Guardians of the Galaxy movie coming out soon

Dimitrius · « **Reply #1874 on:** January 26, 2014, 12:03:59 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on January 26, 2014, 11:38:45 AM

BTW, does it go without saying that Big Show's knockout punch is the worst finisher ever? Guys punch each all of the time in matches, but Show's is supposedly so powerful that it knocks the guy out, to the point where he could get a 30-count if need be? , okay.

It's got some heavy competition in the form of Hogan's leg drop and The People's Elbow.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1875 on:** January 26, 2014, 12:52:56 PM »

Quote from: Dimitrius on January 26, 2014, 12:03:59 PM

Quote from: KevShmev on January 26, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
BTW, does it go without saying that Big Show's knockout punch is the worst finisher ever? Guys punch each all of the time in matches, but Show's is supposedly so powerful that it knocks the guy out, to the point where he could get a 30-count if need be? , okay.
It's got some heavy competition in the form of Hogan's leg drop and The People's Elbow.

Well, to be fair, those two moves are more cherry on the top moves after the big boot/Rock Bottom.

Zook · « **Reply #1876 on:** January 26, 2014, 12:59:57 PM »

Kinda like Goldberg's Spear and Jackhammer. His spear alone would probably get him the 3 count. The Jackhammer makes it certain.

Someone like Edge should not have a finisher like the spear. He's too small.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1877 on:** January 26, 2014, 01:02:24 PM »

I agree that Edge shouldn't have been using the spear. Roman Reigns is a good choice for someone to use it.

Zook · « **Reply #1878 on:** January 26, 2014, 01:04:40 PM »

Yeah, he's a big dude. He'll break you in half. Even Rhino's "Gore" was believable.

Jaq · « **Reply #1879 on:** January 26, 2014, 02:57:49 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on January 26, 2014, 11:38:45 AM

BTW, does it go without saying that Big Show's knockout punch is the worst finisher ever? Guys punch each all of the time in matches, but Show's is supposedly so powerful that it knocks the guy out, to the point where he could get a 30-count if need be? , okay.

The rule of finishers is that "the expert's version of a move is 1000% more effective than anyone else's." It's why the DDT is a knock out for Jake Roberts but at best a near fall for anyone else.

KevShmev · « **Reply #1880 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:12:19 PM »

True, but a punch is too simple and too basic to be a real finisher. This ain't 1982 anymore where a clothesline or basic suplex is someone's regular finisher.

I wish someone would bring back the Indian death lock as their finisher, although in today's P.C. world, they'd have to call it something else.

Jaffa · « **Reply #1881 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:14:38 PM »

Native American Pain Lock.

Zook · « **Reply #1882 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:25:57 PM »

Criss Cross Applesauce

Jaffa · « **Reply #1883 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:26:46 PM »

KevShmev · « **Reply #1884 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:30:46 PM »

Another problem nowadays with finishers is the wrestlers often try to slap them on way too quickly. Remember how Flair used to work his opponent's leg over for like half a match before even attempting the figure-four? But then they have Flair last year pass it on to Miz, who always tries to apply it after doing nothing to wear his opponent's legs down. Sure, back in the day, a sudden finisher like Jake's DDT would sometimes be attempted early in a match, but it was a rarity. Nowadays, it's like you have people trying their finishers at the beginning of matches all the time.

Jaffa · « **Reply #1885 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:36:07 PM »

Eh, I don't know. When I was a kid, I would always think they should go for their finishers as soon as possible. "Nobody ever kicks out of Sweet Chin Music, so why doesn't HBK just do it right away?!?!?" Now, as a more mature fan, I do see that it gets a little old if people just constantly go for their finishers, but I still have mixed feelings on the subject.

Zook · « **Reply #1886 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:38:37 PM »

I remember when I used to watch the matches and couldn't wait for the promos to be over. Now it's the other way around.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1887 on:** January 26, 2014, 05:48:03 PM »

Judging by the pre-show.... this crowd could be a lot of fun tonight.

Jaffa · « **Reply #1888 on:** January 26, 2014, 06:15:52 PM »

... The New Age Outlaws won the tag team titles.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #1889 on:** January 26, 2014, 06:32:19 PM »

Bray and Bryan just had an early MOTY qualifier. Absolutely incredible.

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