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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #245 on: July 06, 2011, 07:59:07 AM »
my impression has been that there may be a general outline for the match, includoing some of the big spots/moves, but it's not 100% laid out. I remember reading that the classic Savage/Steamboat match from WM 3 was unusual in that it was entirely planned, they spent weeks rehearsing the match in a ring at Savage's house. As far as who plans stuff, there are a group of (usually) former wrestlers called agents who work in the back and work with guys to plan stuff out.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #246 on: July 06, 2011, 09:51:00 AM »
For normal house shows, the bookers decide who wins or loses, and the wrestlers generally make it up as they go along.  It's important that they each get in their main moves, but otherwise there is a lot of room for making stuff up.

For pay-per-views, they prepare more beforehand, especially if there is a "holy shit" moment planned.
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Re: Man, I know too much about this business...
« Reply #247 on: July 06, 2011, 02:07:24 PM »
I've always wondered the logistics of WWE. Is every match choreographed completely, or are 'they' just like "you dominate for the first 5 minutes or so, then a momentum swing, he attempts a finisher, you counter and you pull off the upset." And by 'they', who are they? Is Vince out the back and runs the wrestlers through every match and how it's going to go down, or are there others, or what? I've always wondered this.

Most matches aren't completely choreographed. In fact, the only one I can remember is Warrior/Hogan from some Wrestlemania many years ago, mainly because it was supposed to be a huge match and they didn't want anything to go wrong.

For your everyday match, however, the booker/writing team decides who will win and how (Pinfall, run-in DQ, count-out, etc.). The wrestlers will then work out a rough outline of how the match will go. They may discuss it with other wrestlers or road agents (Who are often former wrestlers themselves) to get ideas on how to make the match more exciting or flow better, but by and large, the matches are called in the ring between the wrestlers themselves, and the referee, who may pass information between the two or tell them when to 'go home', or head into the finishing stretch.

The wrestlers are all pretty familiar with each other's spots and signature moves and can usually tell what move is being set up if it's going to be a big move. For example, The Rock always did The People's Elbow after he hit a spinebuster, so if Wrestler B got hit by that, he knew to lie there while The Rock did his thing. But for smaller things, like reversing an Irish whip or hammering on a body part, the wrestlers themselves will usually call that on the fly in the ring (You can watch almost any Botchamania on Youtube to find examples of guys audibly calling moves in their matches).
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #248 on: July 07, 2011, 09:48:28 AM »
Oh, Botchamania, I love those videos!
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #249 on: July 07, 2011, 02:36:12 PM »
Fuck yeah! botchamania!
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #250 on: July 12, 2011, 02:55:46 AM »
Cm Punk  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #251 on: July 12, 2011, 07:59:14 AM »
great segments to begin and end the show last night... if I wasn't working I might be ordering the PPV this weekend.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #252 on: July 12, 2011, 09:03:03 AM »
The best part of his promo at the beginning of the show was the megaphone.  I actually laughed out loud for real when he pulled out the Back to the Future line when Cena's music was blaring as he entered the ring area - "I'm afraid your music's just too darn loud." Although he left the word "darn" out. :lol :lol

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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #253 on: July 12, 2011, 09:52:26 AM »
Yup, and I loved him getting a crowd pop for mentioning the old WWE ice cream bars
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #254 on: July 12, 2011, 04:52:00 PM »
Yeah, I was marking out all over the place last night.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #255 on: July 12, 2011, 04:54:43 PM »
Yeah, I was marking out all over the place last night.

Watched the segments on YouTube a lil bit ago. I think I've always enjoyed the promos more than the matches, although they were pretty awful in WCW.


Looking back, WCW was pretty awful in general. Jericho had some good promos though.

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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #256 on: July 12, 2011, 06:02:54 PM »
Jericho is GOAT.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #257 on: July 12, 2011, 06:30:56 PM »
Jericho is GOAT.

Jericho is Government Owned Alien Territory?

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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #258 on: July 12, 2011, 06:45:47 PM »
Jericho is GOAT.

don't know about that, even if he is the man of 1,001 holds
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« Reply #259 on: July 12, 2011, 08:16:52 PM »
Jericho is GOAT.

Jericho is not a barnyard animal, although he's beaten a goat, and if you've beaten 1 barnyard animal, you've beaten them all.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #260 on: July 17, 2011, 06:35:15 PM »
Smackdown MitB match delivered!

Also, Booker T is more annoying that Cole tonight!
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #261 on: July 17, 2011, 06:37:00 PM »
FUCK YEAH DANIELSON, I'M MARKING SO HARD RIGHT NOW.
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I was sitting a traffic light blaring Space Dye Vest and next to me in another car was Kevin Moore. And I'll never be open again.

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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #262 on: July 17, 2011, 07:31:06 PM »
FUCK YEAH DANIELSON, I'M MARKING SO HARD RIGHT NOW.
Watch him try to cash it in when Punk beats Cena only to lose and then McMahon ordering Del Rio to cash his in and Del Rio beating Punk.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #263 on: July 17, 2011, 07:56:13 PM »
I hope this is Randy Orton turning heel, because he is fucking horrible as a baby face!
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #264 on: July 17, 2011, 08:50:54 PM »
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

Oh God, was I marking out during that match!!! I fucking screamed "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!" when the little WWE sign came up on the screen and Punk still had the belt!!!!
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #265 on: July 17, 2011, 08:52:12 PM »
1000000/10
Best PPV of the last 5 years. I was marking the whole match.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #266 on: July 17, 2011, 08:54:34 PM »
I was marking the whole match.
Same here!!! I literally was screaming "NO!" when Cena went for that last AA!
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Re: Big Show/Henry, mostly
« Reply #267 on: July 17, 2011, 08:58:26 PM »
Jesus Christ. Jesus fucking Christ. I loved so many things on that show.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #268 on: July 17, 2011, 08:59:44 PM »
DickButt, Christian, Del Rio and Punk... I believe in you again WWE, I really do.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #269 on: July 17, 2011, 09:05:38 PM »
I didn't see it, someone give a rundown of everything that happened.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #270 on: July 17, 2011, 09:08:43 PM »
You know, I wanna thank WWE. I haven't marked out like this in 8 years.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #271 on: July 17, 2011, 09:09:32 PM »
I didn't see it, someone give a rundown of everything that happened.
Daniel Bryan won the MITB of Smackdown, Henry beat Show, Christian won the World Title, Alberto Del Rio won the Raw MITB and CM Punk beat Cena and kept the belt!!

EDIT: Oh, and Kelly Kelly retained the Divas Title.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #272 on: July 17, 2011, 09:10:55 PM »
Daniel Bryan won the SD! MITB briefcase
Mark Henry defeated Big Show
Alberto Del Rio won the RAW MITB briefcase
Christian defeated Randy Orton by DQ but he still won the World Championship
CM Punk defeated Cena fot the WWE Championship after Vince tried to pull off another screwjob then when punk was celebreating Del Rio came out to cash in his MITB but got knocked down by punk, punk left the building trough the crowd.
I imagined the story to go more like this.

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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #273 on: July 17, 2011, 09:12:56 PM »
https://www.sescoops.com/wrestling-news/wwe/backstage-mitb-news-summerslam-plans-bret-foley/

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– According to a high level production source on site in Chicago on Sunday, Vince McMahon arrived at the arena with an extension to CM Punk’s contract in hand.

The WWE Chairman seems determined to keep Punk in the company, and part of the plan is for Punk to headline SummerSlam, either against Cena in a rematch, or against the Money In The Bank winner in some sort of stipulation match.

“Everything is up in the air,” we were exclusively told. “Whatever deal Punk cuts will determine the future of the WWE Title!”

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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #274 on: July 18, 2011, 03:47:06 AM »
Cool.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #275 on: July 18, 2011, 06:36:20 AM »
The IWC is blowing up over the Cena - Punk match. People are calling it a five star match, and that it made the MitB the best PPV in years.
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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #276 on: July 18, 2011, 08:35:32 AM »
I might have to watch that match then.

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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #277 on: July 18, 2011, 08:39:32 AM »
https://www.sescoops.com/wrestling-news/wwe/backstage-mitb-news-summerslam-plans-bret-foley/

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– According to a high level production source on site in Chicago on Sunday, Vince McMahon arrived at the arena with an extension to CM Punk’s contract in hand.

The WWE Chairman seems determined to keep Punk in the company, and part of the plan is for Punk to headline SummerSlam, either against Cena in a rematch, or against the Money In The Bank winner in some sort of stipulation match.

“Everything is up in the air,” we were exclusively told. “Whatever deal Punk cuts will determine the future of the WWE Title!”

:caffeine: :caffeine:
During an appearance along with Ring of Honor star Colt Cabana on Siriux/XM promoting tonight's Money in the Bank PPV, CM Punk claimed he was offered a new five year deal with WWE and turned it down. He also added that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson didn't deserve to be in the main event of Wrestlemania 28 next year in Miami.


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Re: Wrestling "Money In The Bank on July 17"
« Reply #278 on: July 18, 2011, 08:50:45 AM »
Saw it this morning and, wow, what a moment.  The crowd was behind Punk 100% and booed Cena like crazy, and the pop went Punk won was insane.

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Re: You best not be disrespecting Daniel Bryan Danielson like that...
« Reply #279 on: July 18, 2011, 08:51:27 AM »
DickButt, Christian, Del Rio and Punk... I believe in you again WWE, I really do.

Who in the Hell is DickButt, and/or why would your phone autocorrect something to that?
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